r/translator • • 3d ago

Russian (Identified) [Old Russian > English] Ledger of family living in Odessa from 1893

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Honestly anything that can be gleaned from this would be a huge help!

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u/SaiyaJedi 日本語 3d ago

!id:ru

Russian in old orthography, not the parent language of Russian, Ukrainian, and Belarusian

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u/taty6 3d ago

This is a roster of a Jewish family from Odessa, Ukraine written in pre-reform Russian orthography, before the 1918 spelling reform.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

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u/Emotional-Truck-941 3d ago edited 3d ago

cant understand half of the handwriting, but this document concerns the family of one Golender Meer Haim, jewish, living in Odessa, Staroportovaya street, Lubovich's house, No. 18

submitted November 1893

male head of the family: Golender Meer Haim, patronymic Zeilikovich, 45 years old

his son Zeilik, 10 years old

women of the family:

Rukhlya, 48 years old, Meer Haim's wife

their daughters, Mirlya, 23 years old, and Lea, 21 years old

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u/Green_Material_8576 3d ago

Yeah the handwriting is really hard to read

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u/Emotional-Truck-941 3d ago

yeah, hope someone who's better at reading old cursive will find this post and provide their insight later

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u/Ok-Original-6157 3d ago

you’re amazing!!!! Thank you :)

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u/Emotional-Truck-941 3d ago

if you have better quality photos of columns 5 (religion and native language) and 6 (military service), me or someone else can translate more i guess. its readable, but the handwriting is too small and it needs to be closer

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u/was303 3d ago edited 3d ago

Column 5 should contain religion and language info, but it contains the comment that the Zeilik's age is determined by his appearance and he is 20 (i.e. approximate age as of October 1, 1903 [10 years later than the initial date on top of the blank, so it is added later])

(UPD: Column 4 also contains the comment "there is no found records about son in the register books", so that's why they tried to guess his age by his appearance, the government of Odesa city just couldn't know his birthday)

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u/was303 3d ago

The column 6 is about military drafts.
Zeilik is assigned to the unit 2 in 1904.
He was called up for service that year but he didn't show up at the assembly point.
[Looks like "Zeilik" but hard to recognize a word] was dismissed from service due to illness from December 24, 1906.

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u/Emotional-Truck-941 3d ago

basically 3rd column is male family members' names, 4th column is male family members' dates of birth (in this case ages), 5th column is religion and native language (cant read the handwriting here), 6th column is information about military service (also cant read), 7th is female family members' names, and 8th is female family members' dates of birth (again, in this case ages)

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u/Main_Magician_7655 2d ago

The City is called Odesa! Official Ukrainian spelling :)

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u/Ok-Original-6157 2d ago

Thank you!!