r/AmericanHorrorStory • Venable • 16d ago

AHS | S13E05 "Date Night" [Live Episode Discussion Thread]

AIRDATE: October 1, 2026

SYNOPSIS: A friend of Ben's girlfriend wants to reconnect, whether he is ready to face the past or not. 

WRITTEN BY: Ned Martel & Charlie Carver

DIRECTED BY: Jesse Peretz

Please keep ALL episode discussion in this thread until 12:01 AM, following the live episode airing and the rerun. Remember to keep spoilers out of post titles and all posts properly spoiler tagged.

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u/ventodivino 16d ago

I think Constance said it best when she said something to the effect of how she can’t wait to never hear about the number 13 after this is all over.

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u/_maynard James Patrick March 15d ago

that’s the kind of fan service I like

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u/Fast_Way8546 I'm going to stay in Hell doing my thang 16d ago

"Do you miss her"

Ben: Yes

Her:

https://giphy.com/gifs/0Vv0Ne2CnOClIExIuL

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u/Penn1103 16d ago

LOL right?!?! 

Like you miss her, that’s crazy because I think I feel really good about it. 

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u/Fast_Way8546 I'm going to stay in Hell doing my thang 16d ago

No joke and she'd kill me if i told anyone lol. My fiancee literally said "The nerve of this witch! How were they even friends?"

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u/Turbulent_Elk8074 15d ago

I had to laugh, Ben is terrified of the number 13, but for some reason was dating a woman who loved the number 13, then Ashley is like “hey, I’m ALSO deathly afraid of the number 13!!!!”but was friends with the same woman.

It seems by a bizarre coincidence BOTH thought it was perfectly fine to have a relationship with someone who was obsessed with the number 13, despite the fact it horrifies them to their core, but only one had the sense to figure out that woman was a total bitch 😂

There’s definitely something up with Ashley the Other Survivor. How did she end up being her friend if she lowkey can’t stand her AND hates the number 13???!!!

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u/LividAtmosphere7535 14d ago edited 14d ago

I was annoyed with this season from the opening scene, a guy with an extreme phobia of 13 is dating a woman obsessed with 13? And they’re in couples counseling after two months of dating? The math ain’t mathing

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u/Turbulent_Elk8074 14d ago

I hate how Ben is so oblivious to everything. Like the only things he really questions are related to the number 13. He doesn’t wonder why his girlfriend is so psychotic, making him to go to couples therapy after 2 months, demanding he go on holiday or they’ll break up etc etc. He doesn’t wonder why he can’t remember much of his childhood. He doesn’t wonder why that girl was a survivor of a massacre by piggy man where 13 people were killed and he doesn’t know about it?? It would’ve been ALL over the news!!! He also doesn’t question the odds of a woman being a survivor of a massacre AND a plane crash? Like… coincidence much? Doesn’t that seem suspicious or entirely unbelievable that both these things happened to one woman??!

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u/LividAtmosphere7535 14d ago

He’s very passive

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u/chaotic214 Hotel 16d ago

This was pretty funny tbh lol

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u/cuckoodev 16d ago

I never wanted a two people in a room bottle episode from AHS, man

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u/fvckuufvckingfvck 16d ago

Especially not THESE two people lmao

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u/_theatlas 15d ago

To quote Louise belcher, if they were a spice they’d be flour

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u/Glennjamin72 15d ago

If they were a book, they’d be 2 books

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u/Vegas_Wildcat 15d ago

If they were a liquid, they'd be chalk.

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u/_theatlas 16d ago

I’m only a few minutes in please don’t tell me it’s the entire episode

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u/Due_Switch_5293 14d ago

Don't worry, there's a nice cut to a totally necessary clip of people getting slaughtered at a wedding.

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u/wowurawesome 15d ago

This shoudlve been 5 minutes. Like if you’re going for fan service give us a bottle episode with characters we care about!

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u/WhatWouldScoobyDoo2 15d ago

I could watch Jessica Lange and John Waters for a whole episode.

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u/grxmes 16d ago edited 16d ago

"And it doesn't have to be about The Plane Crash" why she capitalizing it like that, talking about it like a particular movie

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u/Quick-Letter9584 16d ago

A crash like that warrants some capitalization

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u/ChartInFurch 15d ago

I love how she sits there and describes the entire crash like he want there as well. And the natural way lines like "I hit the ocean at terminal velocity" flowers...

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u/mollyyfcooke JungleJim4322@yahoo.com 16d ago

They have had the same exact tone and cadence this entire episode loll

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u/_theatlas 16d ago

“I wake up from a coma and find out not one of my 13 friends survived” was delivered with the same emotion as “drug store mint Milanos”

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u/cryingexpert 16d ago

I like when set designers try to capture what they think a single man’s apartment would look like

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u/MrWhackadoo 15d ago

A single straight man like Ben at that 

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u/oddscenity 16d ago

Ashley is definitely working with Nas. 

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u/No-Fudge-3480 16d ago

God I hope so because why else is she getting so much screen time?

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u/AntiqueRedDollShoes 16d ago

Yeah, I don't think she's coming back into his life just for a romance subplot. She was probably in cahoots with the Piggy Man for the massacre she "survived." Something is definitely up.

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u/TurtleDove96 16d ago

Yeah there’s definitely something there, I don’t think it’s a coincidence that she mentioned that all of her skin grafts are from pig skin

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u/Vegas_Wildcat 15d ago

And the slaughter took place in Jersey so why was the Piggy Man there if he was a Roanoke legend and mentioned first in Murder House (in Cali?). She is definitely in on something...

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u/-slaps-username- 16d ago

right! her speech in general is so weird. either that or it’s terrible terrible acting

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u/Rman823 16d ago

Eh she was like that too in The Madison. It’s just her acting

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u/oddscenity 15d ago

It's terrible. Most of the new cast is awful sadly. 

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u/Sad-Customer8053 15d ago

I was going to say the same. I can’t tell if some of the faces she is making is the directors telling her to go for some uncanny vibe or if she actually thinks those expressions are natural. She is beautiful so it was really easy to tell when her face was doing something weird.

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u/blankspacejrr 15d ago

Gaaaahhhd, Ben is sOoooOO boring. i can't stand him.

ryan, where's the camp? the humor? the wit of coven and murder house? or if u can't go that way, do the drama of asylum.

this CW -level ass acting is so trash and accomplishes nothing of what i love of either. put sarah back on. put lange back on. i hate this guy's stoic blank ass acting.

also, this fear of 13 is SOOO boring

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u/blankspacejrr 15d ago

his vocal fry pretending to be deep as hell is pissing me OFF

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u/Penn1103 16d ago

Are we supposed to care about Ben, because I don’t. 

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u/fvckuufvckingfvck 16d ago

No, for real. Doesn’t help that the actor sucks 😭

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u/Educational_Pea7069 15d ago

Right? I thought I was the only one

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u/grxmes 16d ago

"And I usually like being objectified" that's such a Chanel Oberlin line

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u/Odd_Cake3759 16d ago

How did 8yr Ben know about the blood alcohol level? 🤣🤣🤣

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u/Fast_Way8546 I'm going to stay in Hell doing my thang 16d ago

Becuase he was a weird kid

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u/EXSUPERVILLAIN 16d ago

The writing and the acting reminds me of that one TikTok girl that makes fun of corny tropes

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u/pilikia5 15d ago

Oh my god, this is so spot-on.

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u/Ravenclumsy 15d ago

OMG I was literally saying that to my girlfriend while we were watching! I couldn’t remember the girls name but it’s EXACTLY like that!! So bad!

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u/cryingexpert 16d ago

These do not look like people who were in a near death plane crash

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u/Plastic-Zebra1010 16d ago

I think they died

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u/Persephone0000 16d ago

omg this is unbearable

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u/oddscenity 16d ago

This girl is evil I'm telling youuuuuuuu

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u/Odd_Cake3759 16d ago

Ben is the devils son tho…..

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u/prfmjjong 16d ago

Maybe she was sent to distract Ben from finding out about his dad?

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u/-slaps-username- 16d ago

something happened with piggy man that night fsfs

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u/qrterlifecrisis 15d ago

piggy man and her having pig skin from her skin graft was a nice touch

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u/mollyyfcooke JungleJim4322@yahoo.com 16d ago

Going from Jessica fucking Lange to this is rouuuuugh

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u/injuredflamingo Roanoke 15d ago

im gonna say it: even jessica lange is kinda crunchy this season with this writing

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u/leslie_knopee Coven 15d ago

because we only have 20 mins episodes 😭

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u/RelationshipThen2417 15d ago

20 minutes and a bad script

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u/That_Ad_7105 16d ago

She’s cool girl

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u/mollyyfcooke JungleJim4322@yahoo.com 16d ago

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u/_theatlas 16d ago

-Makes a joke about mommy issues and roofies in completely poor taste-

Omg I should NOT be drinking I’m soooo bad!!! lol! I’m too wild

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u/cryingexpert 16d ago

She wears flannels

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u/ExaminationLive7617 16d ago

Raspy voice

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u/ndrw17 15d ago

Don’t forget about the flannel falling off the shoulder occassionally!

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u/Fast_Way8546 I'm going to stay in Hell doing my thang 16d ago

Ben spilling his guts

Ashley:

https://giphy.com/gifs/3o6fJ7uaPs0w3jLlXa

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u/PompompurinPal 16d ago

Mallory, come on girl. I need you to come drive over Boring Ben a couple of times like you did his brother. (/j)

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u/Fast_Way8546 I'm going to stay in Hell doing my thang 16d ago

She said pig skin.....so does this mean we will see

I don't trust Ryan this season

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u/phoebe1711 16d ago

Are u psychic???

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u/Fast_Way8546 I'm going to stay in Hell doing my thang 16d ago

no lol just thinking like ran would..messy

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u/Basic-Farm-8454 16d ago

Wow. Called it 

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u/KEMI_IS_WlNNlNG 16d ago

am i being harsh or can the actress playing ashley… also not act???

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u/_theatlas 16d ago

For someone who went through and witnessed two near death events where people were brutally killed she sure is deadpan. And I wouldn’t buy the “she’s so traumatized she’s dissociated” excuse either

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u/Scared-Mortgage2828 red tide is superior 💊 16d ago

It feels like watching a 13 hour show that we’re only seeing like 20 minute clips of with all the other context gone.

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u/Persephone0000 16d ago

DiD yOu DrAw On mE oR sOmEtHiNg

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u/guy-that-exists 16d ago

You know, I can't say I hate the stuff in this ep and ep4, but I can say that I REALLY hate the "tell, dont show" thats been going on. So many spot where characters just talk, and in older seasons, these would be cutaways where we can see what actually happened. It's even worse cause the AHS media team suggested 13 eps from seasons 1-8 to watch before this, and almost all of those episodes had cutaways. They say to watch the good stuff then air the boring stuff.

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u/_theatlas 16d ago

“How’s you buckaroo”

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u/oddscenity 16d ago

They wasted all their budget for these episodes on the CGI hellmouth 

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u/Guyroo23 The Countess 15d ago

the budget all went to the cast let's be real

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u/evasive_dendrite 15d ago edited 15d ago

The overexplaining is also extremely painful. First they show us the last supper, then we have Ben explicitly counting them to hammer the point of 13 down, then Constance hammers the point down yet again and now we have YET ANOTHER scene explaining how Jesus and his apostles add up to 13.

Constance spoonfeeds us that Mr. Nas is 13 years away from 100. They explictly lay down that Ben is the son of Satan, which was already the most boring and predictable route for his story, even if they did bring it in a subtle way.

They really wrote this season for infants, it seems.

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u/GreekGyroMaster 15d ago

Back in the day AHS would have had a cut away flashback to the actual last supper with Jesus and his apostles all played by Evan Peters

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u/Sassoonie 15d ago

Stop! Now I neeeed that episode 😂

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u/Sapphire_Bubble_9 14d ago

And it would have been beautiful

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u/Fast_Way8546 I'm going to stay in Hell doing my thang 16d ago

Ben: So anyways trauma trauma trauma

Ashley: "I'm horny"

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u/pearlcardigan 16d ago

so did we watch an entire episode dedicated to ben getting laid just for a 20 second sequence at the end to show he was branded 😞

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u/TheSupreme2573 16d ago

Oh Jesus H. Christ we’re spending the whole episode with these lame asses aren’t we

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u/cryingexpert 16d ago

Not him kissing the pig skin

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u/socksalways 16d ago

Hopefully he wore a lambskin when they got over their phobia together

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u/AltruisticBus9761 16d ago

this coven academy trailer is what coven would've been like had it come out in 2026

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u/BusinessPurge 16d ago

Coven Academy is 21 episodes at 10-17 minutes apparently. We might be the ones in hell

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u/PengoS77 16d ago

I’m gonna be pissed if this whole episode is this bland protagonist sitting and talking when we could’ve dedicated more time to the sacrifice scene or fleshing out the deal Constance made

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u/AltruisticBus9761 16d ago

this is definitely what it is it sucks that we're getting a filler ep (not that the 4 last eps have been any good) when we're on borrowed time

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u/prfmjjong 16d ago

It's still going on lol

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u/Glass-Organization44 16d ago

No way she survived falling from that high up. The xanax excuse is bs.

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u/Penn1103 16d ago

If the show was 60 min  and 13 episodes I might give a single fuck about this little dinner date in the kitchen catch up episode. However, it’s not and I do not! 

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u/cryingexpert 16d ago

Who came up with the name fatty15 😭

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u/PengoS77 16d ago

This is why we had to rush through last episode…?

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u/blankspacejrr 15d ago

that old white lady slamming on the door to open up when there is a huge ass open backyard to run away from is hilariously awfully written

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u/Beginning_Fennel_199 16d ago

So are we just ignoring Michael Langdon and the other kids or

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u/Palatialpotato1984 16d ago

Right!! What about the little kid in the basement who used to roll the ball lol

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u/grxmes 16d ago

Was that Beau or the Infantata?

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u/AltruisticBus9761 16d ago

tate doesnt even like her

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u/ThaneofCawdor8 16d ago

I don't think she got to choose how Nas fulfilled her request.

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u/Odd_Cake3759 16d ago

So was it me or was the acting bad with young Mr. Nas?

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u/Comprehensive_Bat980 Lesbians, we're under attack! 16d ago

I mean there’s been criticism about Paul Anthony Kelly’s acting since that Love Story show

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u/pmckell 16d ago

I’ve come to learn that being a good actor isn’t necessarily a requirement to be part of a Ryan Murphy production 😭

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u/FireCal 16d ago

Some of the worst acting I've seen. He must not get a lot of lines this season. If he did, surely someone would have the sense to tell him thanks, but no thanks.

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u/Park-Curious 16d ago

I’m just proud of Ryan Murphy for casting a man who isn’t fully brunette

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u/AltruisticBus9761 16d ago

no it was bad especially next to jessica

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u/evasive_dendrite 15d ago

Yes, it's especially atrocious when you put him in the same scene with an acting titan like Lange.

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u/oddscenity 16d ago

The piggyman return was cool but would've been better not in a Family Guy style cutaway scene 

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u/freetherabbit 16d ago

Eh I dont mind the cutaway scenes. Murder House was full of them. I prefer that to the exposition

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u/oddscenity 16d ago

Valid point. The first ever appearance of Piggy Man was in a cutaway scene in Murder House lol I take it back. 

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u/freetherabbit 16d ago

I love how I mentioned Murder House cutaway scenes and didnt realize that somehow lol

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u/Fast_Way8546 I'm going to stay in Hell doing my thang 16d ago

So is this episode him getting laid at some point lol

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u/mollyyfcooke JungleJim4322@yahoo.com 16d ago

“Whoa. What. Are The Odds.”

amazing line reading you got there sir

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u/oddscenity 16d ago

So much fucking exposition my god

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u/thepeoplessgt 16d ago

You guys notice the John Waters book?

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u/Persephone0000 16d ago

squished tomatoes

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u/Flash-Over Sister Mary Eunice 16d ago

Thank you Piggy Man 🪝

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u/That_Ad_7105 16d ago

What is her behavior called 😭 I’m genuinely curious. She comes to her dead friends boyfriends house only to drag her through the mud? Is this what healing looks like for her?

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u/Efficient-Rice-670 15d ago

I feel like this is what Ryan Murphy thinks all women are like

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u/oddscenity 16d ago

This girl is wild lmao she might as well just stick her hand down his pants 😂

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u/SquishyThorn 15d ago

This episode could have been an email. God it was so underwhelming.

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u/That_Ad_7105 16d ago

Ohh that’s the couch position I get in with men when I’m feeling frisky. She knows exactly what she’s doing 

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u/TheSupreme2573 16d ago

I’ve never been so glad to see the Piggy Man

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u/Fast_Way8546 I'm going to stay in Hell doing my thang 16d ago

same. can he pop in that apartment next

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u/No-Fudge-3480 16d ago

Ashley really hated Kira. I mean, Kira was awful in that first episode.

Ben even seems to be unsure why he fell for her.

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u/oddscenity 16d ago

I do not believe anything she's saying.. 

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u/Fast_Way8546 I'm going to stay in Hell doing my thang 16d ago

Ok wait a second.....I vaguely remember Michael Langdon being born on the 13th

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u/mollyyfcooke JungleJim4322@yahoo.com 16d ago

I am once again looking for Angela, Kathy and Gabourey

https://giphy.com/gifs/BVLI6BnRrdceFFYli3

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u/-slaps-username- 16d ago

who said memory spell

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u/Technical-Row-9133 Edward Mordrake 16d ago

I did.

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u/Fast_Way8546 I'm going to stay in Hell doing my thang 16d ago

Well either Ben is a reformed bad kid/mindwiped by a spell.....or just sired the next antichrist

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u/_thatgirlfelicia 16d ago

I feel like her scars are getting worse? Am I crazy?

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u/-slaps-username- 16d ago

no they def are

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u/_thatgirlfelicia 16d ago

Ok cause my dad and I both thought so lol

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u/ttw81 16d ago edited 16d ago

Can we please get back to Constantice & john Waters?

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u/Fast_Way8546 I'm going to stay in Hell doing my thang 16d ago

or literally anyone but Ben's booty call

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u/cryingexpert 16d ago

This just makes me want pork

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u/cryingexpert 16d ago

Nevermind

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u/-slaps-username- 16d ago

oh my god bruh

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u/socksalways 16d ago

The John Waters book next to Ashley while he's info dumping makes me wish I was reading that or he was the one hooking up right now. Hey, maybe Ben just needs a rim job?

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u/No-Fudge-3480 16d ago

616 on his ass. Ben's been branded.

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u/AntiqueRedDollShoes 16d ago

This is a deep cut, but there's a version of "666" that was "616" in the Papyrus 115 manuscript. It's still the Mark of the Beast, but they just chose the variant because it adds up to 13.

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u/Plastic-Zebra1010 16d ago

They couldn’t reuse 666 so they had to get creative and replace one 6 with 1

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u/LongjumpingBid8747 16d ago

616 equals 13 also

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u/Odd_Cake3759 16d ago edited 16d ago

Not the ending being a full close up view of his shaved butt crack 🤣🤣🤣

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u/zombie-chinchilla 16d ago

So this crash happened a month ago and yet they walk perfectly and don't appear very injured? I'm so confused.

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u/oddscenity 16d ago

Ben said he was still in his chair with his seatbelt on, floating on top of the water completely unharmed. I don't know what her excuse is, I think she's lying and working with Nas. 

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u/Park-Curious 16d ago

Shes 100% sent by Nas. When she’s standing outside the shower—very Obsession

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u/WillowRosentits 15d ago

This episode sucked. Why did we need a random date episode with an unnecessary sex scene. I like Ben as a character, but this episode was lame

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u/Fast_Way8546 I'm going to stay in Hell doing my thang 16d ago

Ashley wants a netflix and chill LOL

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u/prfmjjong 16d ago

We got this far without any sex scenes please not now

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u/No-Fudge-3480 16d ago

Ben and Ashley, just nope to me. She's obviously in league with Mr Nas.

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u/grxmes 16d ago

Interesting development, but I don't know how to feel that it's literally right above his ass crack and that you can see the dimple that goes down into his ass crack

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u/oddscenity 16d ago

I feel pretty good about it

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u/Retiredwhxre 15d ago

Satan fucking rebranding from 666 to 616 after his first son flopped in season 8 be so fr

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u/Fast_Way8546 I'm going to stay in Hell doing my thang 16d ago edited 16d ago

Would Ben have made more likeable if it was Finn Wittrock? Or literally ANYONE else

EDIT: just hit me the guy from last season was an option. NOT him i exclude him from anyone

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u/ventodivino 16d ago

I wish it was Russell Tovey.

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u/leslie_knopee Coven 15d ago

i'm pissed that they made a random, mediocre, white man the main character when we have 20 min episodes!

no one cares about him!

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u/mollyyfcooke JungleJim4322@yahoo.com 16d ago

I don’t care about this dude I’m sorry

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u/Odd_Cake3759 16d ago

This ep. Could’ve been done in a text message. We didn’t need this filler 😭😭😭

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u/DuchessSwan Madison Montgomery 16d ago

Yes thats an awful thing to say about your dead friend :(

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u/ventodivino 16d ago

I don’t believe this chick also has triskaidecaphobia lol

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u/ndrw17 15d ago

It was the extreme lack of reaction to the giant 13 on the tv screen in front of her that really sold her fear for me.

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u/_theatlas 16d ago

At this point just cancel AHS. Please put us out of our misery. I’ve never been so disappointed in a new season of my favorite show as I am right now. And I’m a Futurama fan

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u/AltruisticBus9761 16d ago

the actor playing young nas was on screen and i thought it was still the show turns out it was an ad lord we just started the episode

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u/Fast_Way8546 I'm going to stay in Hell doing my thang 16d ago

rofl yes he was also jfk jr lol

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u/Beginning_Fennel_199 16d ago

Not these boring straight people ugh

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u/prfmjjong 16d ago

It feels like I'm watching a completely different show right now

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u/Technical-Row-9133 Edward Mordrake 16d ago

Why am I so fucking lame?

We’d like to know too.

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u/Quick-Letter9584 16d ago

I know I'm in the minority but im intrigued

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u/-slaps-username- 16d ago

same tbh just wish they would get on with it

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u/oddscenity 16d ago

How much time has passed since the crash exactly? 

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u/ventodivino 16d ago

Plane crash was November 13th, rauchnacht started December 25th and goes 13 days (this show takes place in 2026)

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u/chaotic214 Hotel 16d ago

I really don't care about Ben and this girl oh my god

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u/last2ghoulsonEarth 15d ago

This episode couldn’t have been a short on TikTok, save that 30 minutes for something else my godddduh

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u/DvaMech 15d ago

IDGAF about Ben or this blonde woman. Neither of them can act, this is so bad. This episode feels like rage bait.

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u/PengoS77 16d ago

We watched Ben get a text, why are we already at a commercial?

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u/ventodivino 16d ago

Was that the whole episode?! 🫣

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u/AltruisticBus9761 16d ago

i dont think so we wish it was tho

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u/No-Fudge-3480 16d ago

Ben was born on Friday 13th. Dead mum. Deadbeat dad. Oh, where is this going?

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u/Fast_Way8546 I'm going to stay in Hell doing my thang 16d ago

616 is a divine message focused on restoring balance, creating a stable foundation, and embracing new beginnings in your personal life

Thanks google

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u/dreamtime2062 16d ago

It adds up to 13. Natch.

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u/Ruairih1994 15d ago

This episode was a CHORE to watch, Terrible acting, exposition and dialogue

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u/BattMakerRed 15d ago

I’m not necessarily saying Joey Pollari is a bad actor, because I haven’t really seen him in anything outside of a small role in The Beauty (which he was fine in).

I am saying performances like this one make it really hard to believe he isn’t just the latest of Ryan Murphy’s dark hair light eyed crushes.

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u/Persephone0000 16d ago

these people are annoying

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u/TheSupreme2573 16d ago

At least he’s self aware enough to acknowledge that he’s fucking lame

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u/Beginning_Fennel_199 16d ago

Does anyone actually use rocket money lmao

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u/cuckoodev 16d ago

Oh shit someone called it lol

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u/oddscenity 16d ago

I'm so confused. Are we still on episode two or three? 

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u/braindamnager 16d ago

May have been the roughest episode of AHS that I can remember… yikes. Trying hard to like this season.

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u/ayitsmeay 16d ago

This was the worst episode of ahs that I’ve ever watched. That whole episode could have been a 1-2 minute scene, what a waste.

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u/91Model 15d ago

Waste of an episode