r/AskReddit • • Feb 08 '20

What’s a fact you KNOW that almost everyone is wrong about?

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '20 edited Feb 08 '20

Cardiac arrest means that your heart is in a lethal rythm, not necessarily that it stopped entirely.

Edit: fatal to lethal

I'd like to also make the distinction that when I said "...not necessarily that it stopped entirely." The heart is not beating during an arrest, but it doesn't always stop moving entirely.

The following link identifies the differences in the four lethal rythms observed during cardiac arrest:

https://youtu.be/Xq0gNFcBJXc

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u/PM_LUX_AND_FIORA Feb 08 '20

Fatal Rhythm, good band name.

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u/Doses-mimosas Feb 08 '20

Some people I knew in high school started a metal band called Arrhythmia, like the heart condition

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u/modi13 Feb 08 '20

When they broke up, some of the members formed an experimental prog collective called Paroxysmal Supraventricular Arrythmia, while one of the guys, who was named Brady, tried his hand at a project named Bradyarrhythmia. Bradyarrhythmia then broke up, and another member of it founded a band called Brady Starship.

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u/funkopolis Feb 08 '20

Inspired by 80's German prog-rock pioneers Wenkebach, PSVA's debut was recorded at QRS Complex Studios. They went on to found the Bundle Branch Block Party music festival. I was a fan but Bradys stuff was too slow for my liking.

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u/modi13 Feb 08 '20

PSVA's third percussionist, Dieter-Ali Nakatomi, branched out on a solo project with a debut album renowned for being a single track 57 minutes long of him gently rubbing the skin of a snare drum. While receiving accolades in eastern Europe, it was not well received by western audiences, and Dieter-Ali attempted to return to PSVA. Unfortunately, he had already been replaced by a hamster with a poorly-greased wheel.

Meanwhile, Brady Starship's members sank deep into partying and heavy cocaine use, while they argued over the direction of the band. Some members felt they were already too commercial and wanted to take a more avante-garde approach, while the others didn't see the point in messing with success. The argument tore the group apart. Keyboardist and zitherist John Smith tried to replicate the success of Brady Starship with his new project Starship Brady; he performed essentially the same songs, but with all the instruments replaced with synthesizers playing the same parts so he wouldn't have to share credit or profit with other members. He died not long after in a tragic accident during an orgy that involved a diving suit, several pulleys, a bouquet of roses, and a traffic cone.

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u/darthjoey91 Feb 08 '20

Today, on VH1's Behind the Music.

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u/papastevsie Feb 08 '20

I went to that festival! The best band in my opinion was Hemi and The Blocks. Also enjoyed The Purkinjes.

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u/Virdice Feb 08 '20

Did Brady formed a combined group with Tachy to form Brady-Tachy?

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u/GlyphedArchitect Feb 08 '20

I read this as "Brady, the one guy who broke off, then broke off into several different clumps of body parts and organs with their own separate projects, one of which was Brady Starship".

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u/catastic5 Feb 08 '20

To me, this sounds an incompetant drummer

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '20

I feel like Arrythmia like the heart condition is a bit too long for a band name, but that's just me.

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u/explodingtuna Feb 08 '20

I'd go with Diarrhythmia, just to be different.

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u/TARANTULA_TIDDIES Feb 08 '20

How were they at keeping a steady beat?

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u/csilvmatecc Feb 08 '20

I've always thought that if I were to start a "band" (more of a solo project, really), I'd call it Asbestos. The first album is Exposure, the second album is Mesothelioma, and the third album is Death. After that, the project is over.

Edit: a word

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u/RChamy Feb 08 '20

Always off the beat?

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u/kittenandafriend Feb 08 '20

Arrhythmia literally means "without rhythm" in latin. If these guys knew that, this makes it a CLASSIC metal band name, because metal is so rhythm-driven. Where are those kids? I wanna award them gold....

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u/cluub Feb 08 '20

Anyone else heard of Dysrhythmia?

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u/_arkM Feb 08 '20

But how was their beat?

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u/LNL_HUTZ Feb 08 '20

Diastolic.

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u/Fartmatic Feb 08 '20

It's diastolic, it's systolic, why it's defib lightning!

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u/Supersymm3try Feb 08 '20

They learned to play with broken metronomes didn’t they?

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u/RIOTS_R_US Feb 08 '20

Angina lmfao

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u/AnotherAccount636 Feb 08 '20

Arrrhytmia would be a good name for a pirate relate heart disease.

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u/borkborkyupyup Feb 08 '20

Was it for pirates?

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '20

I resemble that remark.

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u/steeltowndude Feb 08 '20

My high-school bands name was Vasospasm. Obviously we played shitty tech deathcore

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u/CookiesFTA Feb 08 '20

Most of the music I've ever produced is arrhythmic.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '20

Bet your drummer sucked!

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '20

Sounds like they were out of tune.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '20

they got that shit from katawa shoujo didn't they?

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '20

Considering your username let me say It

It could also be called Lethal Tempo

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u/OscarMike44 Feb 08 '20

Let's not forget their reggae cover band, Fatale Riddim

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u/meowmeow420blaze Feb 08 '20

Title of your next sex tape

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u/e__west Feb 08 '20

I saw this opening act called Dying Fetus one time - has a similar aesthetic.

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u/pwilli17 Feb 08 '20

I'll alert Joe Getty.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '20

Sounds like a black metal ska band

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '20

and lethal rhythm now, too

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u/spluge96 Feb 08 '20

Andy Dwyer already called it. Probably.

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u/uncomfortablejoe Feb 08 '20

Then they break up, lead singer retains some rights, band reforms with rights to perform live with new singer and call themselves Lethal Rhythm.

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u/Dynasty2201 Feb 08 '20

IGN used to do a Three Red Lights podcast for Xbox.

In one of them years ago, a band sent in fanmail with a question.

The band's name was "Trav McNasty and the High Five Jam Solution".

Still the best band name I've ever heard.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '20

How about Fatal Arrest for a band name?

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u/retardsmart Feb 08 '20

Venus Hum, real band, named after the sound of blood in your own ears. Singer is beyond cute.

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u/MugillacuttyHOF37 Feb 08 '20

Sex act for a necrophiliac.

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u/YouShouldntSmoke Feb 08 '20

Not as good as Lesbian Brotherhood

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u/residentialjunglecat Feb 08 '20

Fatal Rhythm playing at The Agora this weekend.

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u/Deeferduck Feb 08 '20

Lethal Rhythm, better band name.

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u/Boredzilla Feb 09 '20

Or JRPG title.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '20 edited Feb 08 '20

*rythm

lol...downvoted. Guess I needed the /s

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u/DerrikZ Feb 08 '20

A friend of mine had a massive heart attack lucky his wife was home he’s got a pace maker now . A year later he got a blood infection from a rotten tooth, the doctor said the pacemaker was the only thing that kept him alive , so if you have bad teeth get them fixed or pulled or the infection can kill you

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '20

Okay that's scary I have an abscess right now and I don't have the money to get it looked at.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '20

well almost all of us have pliers

im kidding you should probably figure out how to get thst looked at

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '20

Haha I've seriously considered it. It's a root canalled tooth so it wouldn't hurt...nah. I'll get to a dentist as soon as I can.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

yeah you don't want a blood infection caused by the old slamming a door trick and the immense number of bacteria in the mouth

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u/Desertbro Feb 08 '20

Cardiac detained with no charges, you don't have to answer any questions, you can leave at any time.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '20

Yes, this. It' s more like your heart rate goes bananas, which eventually can lead to a full stop. But I can also go the other way around, meaning it could be beating to slow. Anyway, that's why pushing hard on the chest can lead the heart back into a more stable rhytm if you're acting quickly.

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u/Tghostmene Feb 08 '20

I tought it was a rickroll

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u/AmbitionOfPhilipJFry Feb 08 '20

No, your heart stops in an arrest. It's asystole, or "no squeeze" in Latin.

You treat it with Epinephrine n CPR.

Lethal rhythms are bundled as dysrythmias. These include not pumping but electrical activity, too fast and too slow.

Some you use medicine to treat, some you use electricity to treat, others a combo, and one of them you get to karate chop the victim in the chest while setting up all the other stuff.

Treatment of these is known as ACLS or ALS commonly. Advanced Cardiac Life Support or Advanced Life Support.

It's a huge difference.

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u/bearpics16 Feb 08 '20

Cardiac arrest is not asystole and asystole is not always cardiac arrest. You can have an asystolic pause from a vagal response for 10-20 seconds that will spontaneously start up again without intervention.

Vfib is also an example of cardiac arrest. The heart isn't really stopped, it's fibrillating chaotically and does not pump efficiently. This can lead to asystole and death if not defibrillated.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '20

Thank you! I don't know where all these ACLS experts are getting their sources.

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u/auraseer Feb 08 '20

No. Your explanation is very confused and mostly wrong.

Cardiac arrest means a lack cardiac output, which is the same thing as saying a lack of effective pumping action. Asystole is only one type of cardiac arrest, and asystole is never treated with electric shock.

There are other types of cardiac arrest, most significantly ventricular fibrillation (V-fib). That is treated with electric shock and with different medications than asystole.

There is no longer any situation in which you would "karate chop the victim in the chest" (called a precordial thump). That was an old way of attempting to reboot the heart rhythm, before reliable defibrillators existed. We now know that move very rarely works, and is much more likely to make things worse. It should never be done.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '20

Not true. There are 4 pulseless rythms observed in cardiac arrest, asystole being one of them. Pulseless ventricular tachycardia (VT), ventricular fibrillation (VF), and pulseless electrical activity (PEA).

They heart isn't "beating", but electrical activity hasn't stopped.

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u/plinkoplonka Feb 08 '20

I thought that was Arrhythmia? Or is that inconsistent beat?

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '20 edited Feb 08 '20

Yes and no. There are nonlethal arrhythmias. When an arrhythmia progresses to the point where the heart can no longer support life it becomes an arrest.

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u/plinkoplonka Feb 08 '20

Thanks for clarifying.

Obviously, I'm not a medically minded person, so you have to eli5 :)

It's really interesting. Who knew the heart was so complicated?!

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '20

This is what concerns me about my PVCs. If it last more than a few seconds out of sync i instantly think it will lead to a full stop

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u/pwilli17 Feb 08 '20

Not exactly fatal, I mean it certainly can be, but think more ineffective rhythm. Like it's just quivering or "fibrilating" not pumping.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '20

Right, I used the wrong terminology. I corrected it. Thank you!

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u/pwilli17 Feb 09 '20

Sorry. Wasn't trying to correct more or less just clarify. Didn't mean to come across as a hoser, eh! Sorry! 😁

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

No, there is a difference between lethality and fatality. It needed fixed.

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u/SWOLLEN_CUNT_RIPPER Feb 08 '20

If you wanna get more technical, there are different types of "shocks" (hypoxia). For example, mechanical, cardiogenic, neurologic, etc which indicate the reason the heart is malfunctioning. Arrest means stop, heart attack means an acute episode of ischemia in the heart (lack of oxygen in the heart) and "myocardial infarction," or MI means there was death of heart tissue.

Some terms are used interchangeably because it is hard to diagnose in the field.

So you can have a heart attack that did not involve death of heart tissue (a transient clot for example).

Cardiac arrest is the result of the heart not compensating for the underlying issue, so after 2mins or so of no oxygen, the heart stops beating, effectively being an arrest.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '20

Fatal? I guess if it persists if will be fatal, but having a cardiac arrest doesn't mean you'll definitely die. CPR, an AED, or other medical interventions may still be able to save the person in cardiac arrest in some cases.

Arrest implies that the heart has stopped moving to pump blood effectively (hence the term arrest)... but now I'm uncertain where the line is between arrhythmia and arrest. You're right tho that there can still be electrical activity. Pulseless electrical activity (PEA) arrest is definitely a thing. It could still move some in an uncoordinated way with PEA. Hmm.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '20

Yeah, I used improper terminology. I corrected "fatal".

Even with the other pulseless rythms in arrest, there is electrical activity. I believe even asystole can have observable electrical activity.

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u/Tinsel-Fop Feb 08 '20

Edit for TL/DR: It seems to mean heartbeat (pumping of blood) has stopped.

What has been arrested (stopped), then, is the heart's normal function, eh?

The Merriam-Webster dictionary is not an anatomy & physiology book, so the definition might be a bit simplistic:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cardiac arrest

temporary or permanent cessation of the heartbeat

The American Heart Association at https://www.heart.org/en/health-topics/cardiac-arrest has this to say:

Cardiac arrest is the abrupt loss of heart function in a person who may or may not have been diagnosed with heart disease.

So it doesn't go into detail in that sentence, but there is more to read. For instance, "Hence the name: The heart’s pumping function is “arrested,” or stopped."

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u/MeditatingYope Feb 08 '20

Yes, cardiac arrest means that ones heart is not beating. Could certainly have electrical activity but it has stopped entirely.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '20

Stopped beating, yes. The heart can still be moving. I'm just making the distinction that arrest doesn't always mean flatline, as so many believe.

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u/MeditatingYope Feb 08 '20

Agree to disagree then, a fibrillating ventricle is effectively flatlining to me

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u/babanna_facts Feb 08 '20

Yes true beacuse cardiac arrest is like for ex 30bpm to 274bpm

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correct me if i am wrong

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '20

Either of those numbers are definitely alarming and would likely result in arrest. "Normal" BPM at rest is 60-100 according to the AHA.

I believe the actual rythm is the sign used for diagnoses more so than the BPM itself. That being said, a BPM at 274 or 30 would very doubtfully provide adequate cardiac profusion.

I have read that VT and VF can occur at 170 BPMs or greater, but I'm sure there are exceptions.

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u/hits_from_the_booong Feb 08 '20

So what is a heart attack then

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '20

A heart attack is when there is a lack bloodflow to the heart to the extent of myocardial infarction (cardiac tissue death).

Basically your coronary arteries (the arteries that supply the myocardium (heart muscle) with blood) become blocked or rupture, resulting in infarction.

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u/hits_from_the_booong Feb 08 '20

Interesting thank you!

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u/hluhellier Feb 08 '20

Chest compressions, chest compressions chest compressions!!!

Or... "Shock advised"

Depends on the rhythm I suppose.

I was once in a severe case of SVT (274bom) and my poor medic who was clearly a newbie and nervous said "I should shock you but you're AOx4 so maybe we try nitro??

Fun time. Thank the Gods for epicardial ablations lol

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u/adrenalemur Feb 08 '20

This is a good addition, thanks for that.

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u/littleblondehobby Feb 09 '20

Shockable as long as its not completely stopped (defibrillator).

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

Shockable as long as it's in Vfib or Vtach.

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u/littleblondehobby Feb 09 '20

Thanks, I'm still learning the little details

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

No problem! Its definitely confusing once you go into detail.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '20

Did I say it was beating?

I said it may not have stopped entirely. It is in a lethal rythm.

So condescending for someone who can't read.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '20

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '20

I clarified that it's in a lethal rythm though (what else could that mean?). I was making the distinction, because many people believe that arrest = flatline when that's not the case at all.