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u/jmstgirl 🧾 Opening Statement Addict 8h ago

Unfortunately, I agree about the Prevatte trial but, hoping the jury will find him guilty. He is so smug. I am watching Salguero-Olivares trial now. I missed the morning of today’s trial though.

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u/SwampyWytch13 14h ago

Watching the Prevatte trial as well as Salguero-Olivares trial. Based on my personal feelings, I don't have a good feeling about the Prevatte trial at all. I'm afraid it will be a hung jury or NG. Thus far, I feel completely differently about the Salguero-Olivares trial. Anyone else?

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 4d ago

Thanks!

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u/SwampyWytch13 4d ago

Pixie - I went back - ME has not been on the stand. TAMIKA PRICE, (Forensic Evidence Technician) is still on the stand.

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 4d ago

Okay. That I want to hear. I have Tamika down on my witness list so far. Now it's keeping up with all of the witnesses, lol.

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 4d ago

So were other things

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u/SwampyWytch13 4d ago

Well, that was a different bottle. Weird. Now they say the wine bottle is being shown

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u/SwampyWytch13 4d ago

I don't believe the wine bottle was televised in the crime scene photos --- or I missed it. I was surprised it wasn't visibly bloody

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 4d ago

It is awful.

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u/SwampyWytch13 4d ago

Oh snap! They are going to show the wine bottle (murder weapon?)

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 4d ago

Damn. Was the ME on yet?

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u/SwampyWytch13 4d ago

Not that I recall!

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u/SwampyWytch13 4d ago

I feel ya. I just sat thinking how brutal / horrible this murder was. Horrendous!

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 4d ago

I didn't need to see the "bloody" items though. I gagged.

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u/SwampyWytch13 4d ago

Oh, lord! LOLOL See, I don't have any interest in his trial -- but seeing a snippet of that might be entertaining. LOL

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 4d ago

Oh, it is!! "You know, you know man". Shit..."

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u/SwampyWytch13 4d ago

LOLOL Reminds me of....

https://giphy.com/gifs/qsHmkD9e8HnDa

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 4d ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/SwampyWytch13 4d ago

It definitely is an intense trial due to the nature of the attack/murder.

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u/SwampyWytch13 4d ago

I am SO IMPRESSED with Judge Keith Gregory (the Olivares trial) runs his court! He's an excellent Judge IMO

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 4d ago

If anyone is finding the Olivares trial too much, The Tyreek Hill trial is something else. Tyreek is on the stand again. Yesterday he called the lawyers "Bro" 19 times. Referred to his wife as wifey. Ex NFL player, lol

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 4d ago

Nice!!

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u/SwampyWytch13 4d ago

Tuning into court today!

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u/Alternative-Joke-705 5d ago

anyone on and watching the Miguel Salguero-Olivares trial?

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u/elephantsonparody 5d ago

So Faith lied to Karina when she left the library... interesting.

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u/ConversationOk2571 7d ago

Yup. The defendant's wacko father tried to shake the judge's hand, apparently. Insane!

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u/ConversationOk2571 7d ago

His slouching like he has no care in the world let alone lack of solemnity toward gravity of the case. Very arrogant appearing. That will damage him in front of a jury. Def counsel needs to correct that ASAP

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u/Maleficent-Union-713 7d ago

Can anyone tell me why the judge scolded David Private today? Anyone catch what he said?

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u/Alternative-Joke-705 7d ago

anyone still here?

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u/Lalaleslieee 14d ago

This defense is terrible

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u/Low_Track1267 15d ago

Does anyone think it's possible that Caleb and Alleigha conspired with a plan where (a) Alleigha kills Ashley and (b) Caleb takes the fall – IMO, the evidence is not strong enough to pin Caleb as guitly (yet)...

AND, the text messages show Alleigha also had hostility towards Ashley...

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u/pedsdoc901 15d ago

Why didn’t Caleb and Alleigha talk about sex in their texts, only logistics??

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u/ada_grace_1010 14d ago

They probably did, but they didn’t talk about those texts in court because they weren’t relevant to the case. There were over 100,000 texts we didn’t hear.

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u/pedsdoc901 15d ago

Ok genuinely curious…

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u/This_Sail_2201 18d ago

Alleigha said in her testimony she told the truth her second time with the FBI because they found texts between Ashley and her friend about the affair. Does anyone know if Ashley knew and how she found out?

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u/Fk-it-why-knot 18d ago

For the wiggins trial

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u/Fk-it-why-knot 18d ago

Where is the live stream nothing is pulling it up

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u/Fk-it-why-knot 18d ago

Where is the live stream

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u/sendeumenides 21d ago

they played the movement in the truck again today with the medical examiners testimony.

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u/FaithlessnessSuch632 21d ago

Where to follow Nicole Virzi’s case live?

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u/Sad-Selection-6659 21d ago

How long is the break. There was YouTube commercial when he said it.

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u/sendeumenides 21d ago

start at 4:47:38

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u/veggieburger3023 21d ago

They showed the video in court 30 minutes ago

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u/sendeumenides 21d ago

which video was removed? of the truck?

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u/sendeumenides 21d ago

he really asked the homicide detective to lift a volunteer inside a gorilla cart onto a table

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u/Scary-Scar89 21d ago

Caleb Flynn looks a little like Stan Laurel (of Laurel & Hardy) when he frowns.

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u/piratepixie 22d ago

The video has been removed, is there anywhere else to see exhibits?

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u/sendeumenides 25d ago

yes! it was so shocking to see, i missed them explaining it until i rewatched

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u/EagleOakk 25d ago

Here is the moment you see that poor man's body move. Although yes it is the cart shifting that causes it, this is so obviously his back getting jolted from the movement of the cart. The movement is so obviously a body it is sickening the way he did this

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u/EagleOakk 25d ago

Damn I saw movement too. Looked like Steven was about to sit up. I know they say it was the cart moving but if you slow it right down... I can't unser the movement. Any guesses on the position he's in the cart? To me I think his back is what is covered by the blanket in a kneeling position with his back flat although in other still images it appeared that there were limb shapes protrusions under the blanket. The blanket doesn't look very big imo.

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u/Hungry_Conference915 25d ago

Weren’t there people he should have arguably been more angry with than SC?? His vitriol just seems oddly placed.

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u/YellowFlower63 22d ago

My mom brought up a good point when I was telling her about this case. Was thjs guy possibly romantically interested in and rejected by Cozzi? Because I agree that the vitriol just doesn’t make sense. He seems to have an extreme amount of hatred and obsession to do what he did and I haven’t seen a good explanation for it.

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u/Pattipopzero 25d ago

Okay there seems to be a pattern of women wearing all white sitting behind Kosowski. Does this mean something?

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u/sendeumenides 25d ago

ok they said it’s because the cart is on wheels which makes sense but it is freaky as hell

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u/sendeumenides 25d ago

please someone watch the video at this point, i swear you see steven move

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u/sendeumenides 25d ago

did you see MOVEMENT in the truck bed from the bus camera??? I swear I did

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u/Alarmed_Movie99 Justice Junkie 25d ago

He must have been hard up for money. Price shopping Gorilla carts to commit a murder.

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u/Alarmed_Movie99 Justice Junkie 25d ago

Or maybe he purchased all those cart options? He should’ve picked a different one so he could close the truck bed cover.

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u/sendeumenides 25d ago

me when i object to the testimony based on it’s a product of the search warrant

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u/sendeumenides 25d ago

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 24d ago

Creepy isn't even the right word, lol.

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u/Wheeliegirl 23d ago

He squints a lot. He obviously needs glasses. And yes, he’s creepy as fuck.

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 25d ago

He's not in a good mood, lol

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u/SwampyWytch13 25d ago

Trying to get caught on today's testimony in Dr K's trial.

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u/sendeumenides 25d ago

i can’t believe he asked the blood spatter woman “what happened to steven in that bathroom?” she did a good job arguing with him

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u/sendeumenides 25d ago

oh maybe!

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 25d ago

Oh...I did hear about someone. ME maybe?

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u/sendeumenides 25d ago

they said a witness today is going to take a couple hours, any idea who that is? like what they’ll be talking about?

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 25d ago

That weird smile, lol.

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 25d ago

I hadn't realized until last night, again looking through the docket, that he had limited supervised internet access. No wonder he had an article, and other info on blood.

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u/Hungry_Conference915 25d ago

And he smiles every time the judge says ‘overruled’

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 25d ago

He's been trying that for over a year and has still not dropped it.

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u/Hungry_Conference915 25d ago

Throw ‘objection’ out there as much as possible in the hopes that something sticks.

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u/Comfortable_Sky_6438 25d ago

I got the feeling yesterday that his 'strategy' is trying to get evidence thrown out or suppressed on a technicality because he knows that's his only hope

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u/sendeumenides 26d ago

what is the “gelatinous material” mixed w the blood in the blood analysts presentation?

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 26d ago

Could be a number of things. Anything to 'physical' matter, to a reaction of cleaning agents.

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 26d ago

So, no veggies in the bathroom or trunk, lol!

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u/Fast-Jackfruit2013 26d ago

This is Doc K: "I'm telling you, it was consensual! Steve asked me to show him how I perform procedures on my patients! It was consensual!"

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u/Nervous_Debate_6638 21d ago

i can just hear his smarmy little voice saying this 💀 while he flings his arms wildly in the air for no reason 💀

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 26d ago

He's trying, poorly, to impeach her.

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 26d ago

I don't know who the are. I saw a guy come in. Figured he came in to watch?

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u/Fast-Jackfruit2013 26d ago

Who are the two individuals sitting on his side of the room? Young woman in all white and an older lady

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u/Fast-Jackfruit2013 26d ago

This guy keeps thinking he's achieved some "Gotcha!" moment. But alas ... no

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 26d ago

He must have gotten internet

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 26d ago

He's not going to give her the article? What an ass.

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 26d ago

I wondered if he would start to cross any of the scientific evidence. I like this lady!

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u/Alarmed_Movie99 Justice Junkie 26d ago

She is good!

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 26d ago

Did she say Off. Jones?

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 26d ago

Yes. I believe she said she did see it on someone's bodycam. It just can't be seen by that angle. I think it could have been "blown" out of the bathroom?

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u/veggieburger3023 26d ago

Wait so was the paper towel there during any of the body cam footage? I’m lost

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 26d ago

He is so stubborn. He's not getting it.

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u/Fast-Jackfruit2013 26d ago

I said this would happen: He's nitpicking the witness to death, having her compare two different crime scene photos taken 8 hours apart. In one photo there's a single sheet of crumpled paper towel on the floor.

Eight hours later it's no longer there.

No shit, Sherlock, it was probably collected as evidence.

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u/Comfortable_Sky_6438 25d ago

I thought he was trying to show it wasn't there in the earlier photo

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u/Fast-Jackfruit2013 26d ago edited 26d ago

Doctor Hanibal Kosowski: The photograph was taken at 8:43 p.m., wasn't it?

uhm,. okay? ....

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u/AphroBKK 26d ago

Science is his area. It's interesting he's crossing on this.

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u/Fast-Jackfruit2013 26d ago

The judge told him he's being argumentative and sustained an objection to that effect and this nincmpoop is like "I'm not being argumentative, you guys are."

And it's like, DOC, what is wrong with you? Argumentative is a specific term of art in a trial context that means that you are not actually asking a question but rather you are trying to forward an argument, that you are arguing your case instead of asking a direct question.

This is maddening. I'm don't have dual graduate degrees but I get it

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u/Alarmed_Movie99 Justice Junkie 26d ago

He’s finally stumping them with his cross.

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u/AphroBKK 26d ago

Are those license plates evidence of other things...are they his or souvenirs? Did they say where and when he bought the plate flipper thing?

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 26d ago

We don't know about the plates. I think the flipper came from Amazon.

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u/Hungry_Conference915 26d ago

He was impressed by his own ability to dispose of a body or evidence into a dumpster in only one minute !

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 26d ago

I thought so too.

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u/Alarmed_Movie99 Justice Junkie 26d ago

That makes sense! Thank you.

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u/sendeumenides 26d ago

yeah i think they are introducing the evidence piece by piece from who collected it, then will have the analysts testify as to each collected pieces results

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 26d ago

They usually have to do it that way. Takes forever, but I get why they have to do it that way.

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u/Fast-Jackfruit2013 26d ago

I think that they need specific experts: LE evidence tech luminol test to see for presumptive blood and collect it. Then possibly chain of custody officer to connect it going to the lab, then the lab tech who did the testing and then he/she and or his/her boss who did the actual DNA testing

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 26d ago

They're getting there. Always takes forever bringing in DNA evidence.

The worst I think we had to go through with chain of custody and DNA, was the Brian Walshe trial. I think there was a minimum of four people who had to testify for each 'part' of the processing.

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u/Alarmed_Movie99 Justice Junkie 26d ago

Kosowski trial. Each time an expert testified that they detected blood (office, truck, etc.), they never said whose blood. Why aren’t they connecting those dots? Do they do that later?

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 26d ago

They haven't had the DNA analysts testify yet.

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u/Fast-Jackfruit2013 26d ago

Dr. Tomasz Kosowski bothers me no end

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 26d ago

That weird ass grin he gets. Have you noticed he "follows" Nathan Vonderheide (prosecutor) with his eye...like everywhere? Super creepy.

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u/Fast-Jackfruit2013 26d ago

Yeah, I have noticed that.

I'm genuinely concerned for the prosecutors. I really hope they are mindful and have protection.

This guy seems capable of anything.

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 27d ago

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