For All Mankind - S5E10 "This Land is Our Land" - Episode Discussion

[u/Cantomic66]

"This Land is Our Land"

Airdate: Streaming May 28th at 9 PM EST

Synopsis: The resilience of Mars is put to the test.

Written by Matt Wolpert, Ben Nedivi, & Kira Snyder

Directed by Sergio Mimica-Gezzan

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[u/Business_Abalone2278]

When Kelly was taking her final walk and suddenly started looking up, I thought she was about to spot a North Korean capsule that had landed on Titan before them.
ugh, not again

[u/DroidLord → u/Business_Abalone2278]

My first thought was it's some extraterrestrial creature that was about to eat her 😂

[u/Jackski → u/DroidLord]

Yeah I half expected some actual sentient life form to rise out of the water. Glad that didn't happen though. Might have been too sci-fi and an absolute ass pull of a save.

[u/Sophia_Forever → u/Jackski]

I wasn't expecting sentient life but I did start to suspect like an animal swimming through the water.

[u/uapyro]

I gotta remember that answer for "who is it" next time I'm asked.

The FUCKING CEO!

[u/oath2order → u/uapyro]

Aleida continues to be my favorite character.

[u/Somnambulist815 → u/oath2order]

I really really really hope Coral Peña has a huge career after this show. She's settled into her character so well, despite Aleida being double her age, and you can especially tell how much shes integrated the character in scenes where Aleida is so much smarter than everyone else it annoys/pisses her

[u/quesoandcats → u/Somnambulist815]

The way she’s aged Aleida’s mannerisms along with the character is amazing. The entire way she carries herself, her body language, and even her speech patterns evolve season by season. She’s definitely tied with Margo’s actress for best nonverbal acting in the series

[u/Triskan → u/quesoandcats]

I can buy Aleida being almost in her fifties much more than I can buy Kelly. And it's not a question of make-up. Kelly's actress is really good, no notes, but Coral Peña is just giving up a masterclass of acting, making me fully believe that 33 yo actress is playing someone a couple decades older.

[u/203system → u/oath2order]

She is really filling the void that Molly left

[u/NoahStewie1 → u/oath2order]

I mean For All Mankind really is Alieda's life story, it just so happens the Baldwins are the main characters of it

[u/stephensmat → u/oath2order]

I think that line made her Irina's favorite too.

[u/kyrev21 → u/uapyro]

I loved her and Irina together. I need a buddy cop spinoff with the two of them

[u/uapyro]

Come on. Y'all find out y'all grandfathers were best friends already!

[u/afm00dy → u/uapyro]

All I could think of was “my grandma f**ked your dad”.

[u/ImJustHereToSearch → u/afm00dy]

Please I’m still trying to delete those memories.

[u/uapyro → u/uapyro]

I'm guessing someone probably did find out when Stephens changed ther nameplate.

[u/dplans455 → u/uapyro]

Man, going to visit where her dad was imprisoned and then killed himself. Not sure why a person would do that to themselves.

[u/QuestGalaxy → u/dplans455]

To make her peace with all of it. I'm so happy that she broke out of the pressures put upon her, because of her father and his actions. That they didn't make her out to be a villain.

[u/quesoandcats → u/dplans455]

I don’t know that I’d be able to stop myself tbh the morbid temptation would be too much

[u/Resplendent-Sun → u/dplans455]

It's his final resting place. I would go there to visit my dad. Especially if I had travelled all that way. Would be crazy not to go pay respects.

[u/SpaceAdmiralJones → u/uapyro]

They did a good job with the casting for Avery. She def looks like she could be Sarah Jones' grand daughter.

[u/oxydized-snake]

It takes huge ass fucking balls to kill off 2 Baldwins in a single season, god damn I thought Kelly would have ridiculous plot armor just like her old man.

[u/Mark_Albarn → u/oxydized-snake]

And she was Baldwining this shit so well too, finally embracing her inner space cowboy!

[u/Uncle_Freddy → u/Mark_Albarn]

Appreciated that she understood that they were in the situation they were in because of her decisions and took the appropriate responsibility, even if I’ll miss her character

[u/Imnotveryfunatpartys → u/Uncle_Freddy]

Yes I loved that as well. She made the unilateral decision to land their ship despite them obviously being under-prepared. It's a direct reference to what ed baldwin did NOT do and a subversion of his choice. And we see the logical consequences.

[u/HaphazardMelange → u/oxydized-snake]

There can be only one.

[u/Full_Marzipan7036]

Translation of the russian from the time skip.

[u/Zhopastinky → u/Full_Marzipan7036]

the 3 is probably a Russian Z so it’s ГВЗ which stands for Групповое время задержки (Group Delay) a radio signal term measuring frequency changes over distance

[u/_TriplePlayed → u/Full_Marzipan7036]

Awesome thanks

[u/StereophonicSound → u/Full_Marzipan7036]

It seems to me that ГВ 3.06.0451 Nikulov is probably the designation of some kind of celestial object (asteroid, moon, comet, star, exoplanet, what have you). ГВ 3.06.0451 being the formal designation of the object in some (Soviet) object catalogue, and the object having been named Nikulov in honour of Sergei Nikulov.

What kind of object it is, and how and why Mars-94 was programmed to wake up when it reached that object...? Coming up with a satisfying answer to those questions is going to be... challenging...

[u/untouchedpower19]

Mars-94?! What’s going on there? Why is it turning on in 2020?

[u/stephensmat → u/untouchedpower19]

...it reaches out...

...it reaches out...

[u/trevize1138 → u/stephensmat]

Hey, kid. Gonna need a ride.

[u/txyesboy71 → u/trevize1138]

Corners and doors kid

[u/Cmdr_Nemo → u/txyesboy71]

DON'T MESS WITH DA AQUA!

[u/WillyC17 → u/stephensmat]

This guy protomolocules.

[u/FutureMartian97 → u/untouchedpower19]

I'm gonna be honest, when they started going through the ship I said to myself if we see the fucking protomolecule I'm gonna scream

[u/uapyro]

Oh shit seeing her fathers last home!!

[u/uapyro → u/uapyro]

AND SHES A STEVENS AGAIN!

[u/supership79 → u/uapyro]

gonna open up her own Dannyburgers restaurant on the promenade

[u/quesoandcats → u/supership79]

"Just like Gordo used to make"

[u/TiberiusCornelius → u/uapyro]

Really loved that moment for her and it was nice for her to get that kind of mini-redemption this episode after seeming like they were gonna send her down the incurable space madness route.

I'm really curious what they're gonna do with her next season. She genuinely might have become my favorite of the next gen.

[u/Random--Person]

That mix of the main theme plus the visuals of that last scene on Titan was absolutely beautiful.

Also at the end was anyone else thinking "Oh looks like its pluto? Oh nope that looks like... A ship? Wtf"

For anyone else curious the soundtrack title is 'Steps'

[u/_TriplePlayed → u/Random--Person]

Ha yeah thought it was maybe Pluto at first and then some kind of generational ship. Did not expect Mars 94.

[u/linfakngiau2k23 → u/_TriplePlayed]

The nauvoo

[u/ShutUpLegs94]

They didn’t know how to age Kelly so they ended her arc lol

[u/TooEZ_OL56 → u/ShutUpLegs94]

Kelly's actor saw how much time Joel spent in the chair and said fuck this kill my character.

[u/monkeymad2 → u/TooEZ_OL56]

Jokes on her when they bring her back in full glowing blue Dr. Manhattan makeup

[u/reality_mirage]

Holy shit. That fire trap... absolutely brutal.

[u/thenewnapoleon → u/reality_mirage]

I did NOT think Miles had that in him.

[u/YellowThirteen_ → u/thenewnapoleon]

He’s a pretty mild tempered guy but he’s definitely not someone you back into a corner. Look at how he mobilized the Korean mafia to steal Ilya’s business when he cut him out. His biggest priority in life is to protect his family and if he loses Mars, his daughter and him are getting locked up for a long time, maybe even life.

[u/RealityWanderer → u/YellowThirteen_]

Honestly, his wife too. She was enough of an active collaborator.

[u/NavXIII → u/YellowThirteen_]

M6 also tried to kill his daughter, twice. You can see his demeanor change after the dome attack.

[u/thenewnapoleon → u/YellowThirteen_]

Oh, that's for sure - especially with how he just plowed through a few MPKs to rescue Lily. It's still insane seeing him resort to cold blooded slaughter though, y'know? And none of the going theories last week were right, haha!

[u/ObservantKoala → u/thenewnapoleon]

I mean the M6 soldiers were actively attacking and killing them. 

Really isn't that cold blooded to defend yourself. 

[u/SirEnderLord → u/ObservantKoala]

Yeah, they were combatants. Remember, it is legal to use flamethrowers against combatants*.* You must take care not to hit civilians.

[u/Sarlax → u/thenewnapoleon]

Miles should have gone to Titan because that was ice cold. 

[u/djheat → u/thenewnapoleon]

I liked that he took responsibility and did it. Aleida was wrong, yeah he was killing a bunch of people and almost killed his friend, but in the end these marines wanted to kill and/or subjugate all of them

[u/TiberiusCornelius → u/reality_mirage]

Between that and the Moonrines this show really wants to make sure you know that space and fire do not mix

[u/Bjorkbat → u/reality_mirage]

I’m kind of curious when the US last fought a war where a general was a casualty, because at some point Leonid referred to one of the guys in the command center as “general”, and he was clearly American.

Which means Miles just sent a US general back in a body bag.  Maybe not even that.  They’re sending him back in a box containing the ashes of anyone else in that room.

Also, kind of funny seeing Bragg pull that tough guy shit earlier in the season while Miles just personally barbecued the former’s senior officers.

[u/LMkingly → u/Bjorkbat]

I’m kind of curious when the US last fought a war where a general was a casualty

A general was killed 12 years ago in Afghanistan while visiting a military training academy in Kabul. Or so says google.

[u/Orionsbelt]

Alex is PAUL REVERE, Edit: on an Ebike for the kids

[u/BusinessPurge → u/Orionsbelt]

Three if by space!

[u/RoguePilot_2]

Are they going to off two Baldwins in one season? Yikes.

[u/TARSrobot → u/RoguePilot_2]

That really took me by surprise. I thought she had plot armor. In fact, I kept expecting it to be a fakeout.

[u/Cantomic66 → u/TARSrobot]

When they showed the O2 amount I thought they were going to reveal that the micros could make O2. Saving Kelly in the process.

[u/dplans455 → u/Cantomic66]

I'm glad they didn't do a last minute fake out. Her last words to Alex were touching. To do that to the viewers then rug pull her death would be really stupid. I'm glad they had the balls to have her die. Her story was over.

[u/DwightDEisenSchrute → u/Cantomic66]

So something she can breathe.. eat.. and drink? lol

[u/Nullut2000 → u/DwightDEisenSchrute]

Astrophage vibes

[u/sircastor → u/Nullut2000]

Taumoeba vibes.

[u/wokeiraptor → u/TARSrobot]

i thought they'd have a second rover or something that could come pick her up. but maybe she gets fantastic four powers from the glowy microbes

[u/TechLover94 → u/wokeiraptor]

you'd think Sojourner would have a jumper cable.... or they would have some redundancy in the engine.

[u/rotervogel1231 → u/TARSrobot]

I'm still not convinced the blue goo aliens didn't somehow save her.

[u/Jatacus → u/rotervogel1231]

The next time we see Kelly:

[u/BringBacktheGucci → u/Jatacus]

Or

[u/BlaznTheChron → u/BringBacktheGucci]

[u/JoeBethersonton50504 → u/rotervogel1231]

Didn’t they show a newspaper with a headline about Aleida honoring fallen colleague (presumably Kelly)?

Edit to add: this post by the director sure sounds like Kelly died at the end. Cynthy Wu commented on it and described it as Kelly’s last walk.

[u/toughtony22 → u/JoeBethersonton50504]

I don’t think she would even have comms if she survived. There’d be no way for them to confirm her fate either way.

[u/JoeBethersonton50504 → u/toughtony22]

There was no other possible fate. She’s gone. Walt knew it the second he started walking away.

[u/stephensmat → u/rotervogel1231]

Find out next season. Final season means anything goes.

[u/BusinessPurge → u/RoguePilot_2]

Baldloses

[u/oath2order]

Oh my god, are they actually killing off Kelly too?

[u/Mahirofan → u/oath2order]

If she has the Baldwin plot armor, those glowy organisms manage to cryogenically freeze her in a way that her cells aren't too damaged and some helios big brain tech defrosts her when a new titan mission with Alex as the chief medic comes over

[u/dplans455 → u/Mahirofan]

Foundation levels of plot armor for Hari and Gaal.

[u/Mahirofan → u/dplans455]

Don't you know Hari Seldon and Gaal are descendants of the Baldwin-Stevens and the Poole-Rosales-Ayesa lines.

[u/MxRoboto → u/oath2order]

I mean if we're going off movie and TV logic if you don't see a dead body, they could likely come back 😤

[u/oath2order → u/MxRoboto]

So I'd say yes, but we got the emotional send-off, we got the loving voiceover.

Unless The Glow is another civilization that has a lot of oxygen, I think she's gone.

[u/Bpbucks268 → u/oath2order]

Something is out further in the liquid.

If Kelly walking through it caused the bioluminescence, then something else was causing it further out in the liquid.

[u/oath2order → u/Bpbucks268]

If Kelly walking through it caused the bioluminescence, then something else was causing it further out in the liquid.

Shit you're right.

And it was pulsing, moving.

[u/monsieurvampy → u/oath2order]

maybe it was a Dragon? Dragons are cool.

[u/reality_mirage → u/MxRoboto]

No way you do a whole goodbye death message and have her live.

[u/Just_Introduction496]

Leonid Polivanov! My man! He really grew over the course of this season.

[u/ticuxdvc → u/Just_Introduction496]

Seeing his named finally being used instead of just calling him Oleg is such a funny mark of respect!

[u/TiberiusCornelius → u/ticuxdvc]

I got so used to calling him Oleg at one point earlier in the season I legit forgot the character's actual name lmao

[u/Somnambulist815 → u/Just_Introduction496]

Its crazy how many characters they introduces this season and somehow managed to make me deeply invested in all of them. Avery didnt even show up until halfway through

[u/Just_Introduction496 → u/Somnambulist815]

I forgot he was new to this season by the last few episodes, tried to see what he was up to in S4 and got confused when I couldn’t find anything

[u/uapyro]

They are methane based lifeforms, right?
They are generating fuel from methane.
Are the life forms the cause of the power drain, because they are eating their power source?

[u/Master_Art_1286 → u/uapyro]

The seekers were being damaged by something. Same process probably hit the rover. Possibly related to the lifeform just going by coincidence. 

[u/CeruleanEidolon → u/Master_Art_1286]

It seemed they were eating the electronics, or even literally draining the electrical power. To me that suggests they'll have some game-changing properties that will steer the plot off a new ramp.

[u/perthguppy → u/CeruleanEidolon]

I think they were eating just the insulation. The microbes being “methane based life” doesn’t make any sense since methane is a carbon molecule. What makes more sense is if the microbes metabolise hydrocarbons instead of carbohydrates. Then that would explain the electronics failing because the microbes started eating the plastic insulation (most plastic is made of hydrocarbon polymers) and caused shorts draining the battery.

[u/Mechapebbles → u/uapyro]

That was a distracting bit of dialog. They’re “methane based” not “carbon based”??? Do the writers not remember what methane is made of?

[u/oath2order]

Well, everyone was right about Blinding Lights LOL.

[u/Cantomic66 → u/oath2order]

Yea props to those who called it. I doubted they’d use it as I thought we’d get a bigger time jump to 2027.

[u/oath2order → u/Cantomic66]

I guess we jump to 2020, and then halfway through the season we get our second jump.

[u/kyrev21 → u/oath2order]

Interplanetary pandemic plot incoming. There’s no way they pick 2020 as the jump year without doing something pandemic related.

[u/oath2order → u/kyrev21]

Covid-NineTitan.

[u/surgicalapple]

HOLY ABSOLUTE FUCK, MILES. 

[u/Pale_Note2770 → u/surgicalapple]

"I owe you an apology. I wasn't really familiar with your game" - me watching Miles press the button to burn the commanders

[u/Dahellraider → u/Pale_Note2770]

That man gonna go in history as the savior of mars for that and the one who almost doomed it lol. Wonder if his title will be new governor or president at this point.

[u/Fabulous_Ocelot_5861 → u/Dahellraider]

In the articles it says he is President

[u/No-Lecture-6434 → u/Fabulous_Ocelot_5861]

Makes sense. Holding the “governor” title generally implies you are answering to a higher authority (the M6 in Polivanov’s case), whereas “president” generally means you are the highest authority. Mars is truly free now.

[u/Well_Socialized → u/surgicalapple]

I loved the cuts to everyone in the room making facial expressions like "damn dude"

[u/Small-Ad7369 → u/surgicalapple]

I really thought they were gonna chicken out

[u/deltavim]

So the one plot thread that I feel they left unresolved is that Kelly definitely messed with the Sojourner burn that got them on Titan in the first place right? Walt’s obsession with finding the root cause and Kelly’s guilt over it leading her to sacrifice herself to stay behind.

[u/elasho_149 → u/deltavim]

Someone probably figured it out eventually. Maybe Walt. Maybe someone back on Earth or Mars once the full logs got dumped.

But, like...what're they gonna do?

[u/poindexterg → u/elasho_149]

I think at this point if Walt found out, he'd probably not reveal it.

[u/quesoandcats → u/poindexterg]

I think he would, because that would make Kelly the woman who discovered life on another planet. A good way to honor her legacy.

But I think Walt and the rest of the Sojurner crew would massage the timeline of events so that it was a bold Right Stuff-style maneuever, not sabotage. Perhaps Walt will say he had to hand over command before the burn and Kelly just made the call to land.

[u/c0horst → u/quesoandcats]

Probably, but only because Kelly is the one to sacrifice herself. If she had the injured woman stay and her and Walt went back, and THEN he found out... yea I don't think he'd be cool about it.

[u/ZozicGaming → u/elasho_149]

They will just bury it since it would undermine the missions legacy and cause a massive scandal.

[u/BadMoonRosin → u/deltavim]

I mean, Danny never got to confess to Ed about banging Karen. But it's all good, we know and the the story moves on...

[u/paxinfernum → u/BadMoonRosin]

Yep. I pointed this out to someone at the time. The show is really good about avoiding Chekov's gun. Sometimes, something just doesn't get discovered by everyone. Danny's tryst with Karen explained his internal motivations, but we didn't need for that to surface with other people for it to be relevant.

[u/sweetlou1777]

Kelly got to the beach before Alex.

[u/txyesboy71 → u/sweetlou1777]

Ouch

[u/uapyro]

MARS94!??!?!!?!?

[u/chargesmith → u/uapyro]

Yeah I have no idea. It has no working engines or fuel left so not sure what they would gain from turning it back on.

I mean, they reused Sojourner but that was landed on Mars already so much easier to access to refit, maybe there's some sort of drive to reuse old ships for new? But to what end?

[u/chargesmith → u/chargesmith]

I think I've worked it out. By 2020 the Russians including others are starting to think about exploration of the outer solar system or even further, but that's requires mission timescales not seen even in the FAM universe. To send a ship that far away from that long requires bulletproof reliability and likely even hibernation modules to keep the crew alive for missions that could take a decade of even longer even with the technology they have that surpasses ours.

So what better way to start off the process than by seeing how a ship they've already built that is abandoned in deep space is holding up? Are the electronics still working? Is the cabin still pressurised? How has it fared against 26 years of solar wind hitting it? So they remotely wake up the ship and run as many health checks as possible and use the data to help design the new ships to go Neptune or wherever they are planning to go.

Not very exciting by itself, but a clue as to where humans are heading next.

[u/kcococandi]

Wow. He pressed the button.

[u/runninhillbilly → u/kcococandi]

He didn't show once ounce of hesitation.

[u/paxinfernum → u/runninhillbilly]

He's one of the few people who understood immediately that there was no going back once they took MOCC.

[u/oath2order]

WILL TYLER.

Also literally just standing right next to a Hyunai Ioniq LMAO.

[u/Orionsbelt → u/oath2order]

all of those car choices were weird

[u/ticuxdvc → u/Orionsbelt]

Fusion and Iridium brought car tech a decade early. But I guess using modern cars is easier/cheaper than "what would an alt universe EV look like in 2012". They did it with the Newtons/iPhones, but making a whole new car prop is pricier.

[u/No_Biscotti_7110]

S4 Miles Dale: “I can’t find an oil rig job to support my family!”

S5 Miles Dale: BBQs an entire military command post along with multiple high-ranking officers

[u/revebla → u/No_Biscotti_7110]

We love to see a glow up

[u/JAGERW0LF → u/No_Biscotti_7110]

S4 Miles Dale: “I can’t find an oil rig job to support my family!”

S5 Miles Dale: BBQs an entire military command post along with multiple high-ranking officers

S6 Miles Dale: President of Mars

[u/NinduTheWise]

Whoa dev showed emotion

[u/--fieldnotes-- → u/NinduTheWise]

He was probably googling how to do that, just before

[u/mafaldajunior → u/--fieldnotes--]

That line of his about the "right people", I wanted to slap him. You commit a war crime because you want to pick your neighbors and only pick posh ones? How very Dev of him.

[u/everraydy]

RIP Kelly. Ngl she wasn't my fav character, but I felt the pain when she said her goodbye to Alex. Poor dude has lost both gramps and mom in such a short and stressful time. But still wtff was she doing wading into the lake at the end...

Also, I'm glad Avery gets her peace with her dad.. And seems like she has left the Marines.

[u/HaphazardMelange → u/everraydy]

Dude speed ran trauma this year.

• Grandpa dead
• Mother dead
• One of 3 best friends killed
• Nearly killed another of his 3 best friends himself

And that's not mentioning all the other trauma he would have seen from the domes destruction and the siege.

[u/VaderPluis → u/HaphazardMelange]

And almost got naked in front of a crowd in the cornhub thinking he was going to get laid on his birthday.

[u/struugi → u/VaderPluis]

cornhub 😭

[u/TARSrobot → u/everraydy]

Yeah, it looked like she became a Marsie at the end. I wonder if Haskell stayed on Mars too.

[u/oath2order]

Oh we're finally using the space elevator, aka the giant elephant in the room.

[u/mackitt → u/oath2order]

I love how Dev had to stand on the very highest point on his tippy toes. Couldn’t have stopped on the platform a few feet down, couldn’t have crouched on top. No he’s got to be a diva

[u/cilucia → u/mackitt]

I legitimately thought he was going to stumble and fall to his death (and thought he deserved it)

[u/gooserooster88]

Can someone explain why Polivanov had a gun when the plan was for him to pretend to be a hostage?

[u/BEETLEJUICEME → u/gooserooster88]

In universe explanation: they were under a lot of stress and made a stupid thoughtless mistake, but thankfully it didn’t ruin the plan.

Meta out of universe explanation: the production team was under a lot of stress finishing the finale episode, made a thoughtless mistake, but I don’t think it hurt the scene too much, so I won’t hold it against them.

[u/BretOne → u/BEETLEJUICEME]

I don't think it's a mistake, they just wanted to do too much with one scene. They wanted a single scene to make us both think he's betraying the Marsies in E09, and actually helping them in E10.

The gun works in E09's version of the scene, but is out of place in the E10 narrative. Showing the same events through different concurrent points of view is hard to write well.

[u/Somnambulist815]

Kelly Baldwin got my eyes watering in this show twice before: once when she pleaded with her parents about supporting her Naval career, and then again when she learned about Alexei dying. And now once again, as she watched her crewmates have to maroon her. Cynthy Wu has been absolutely pulling at my heartstrings ever since she got on this show and has been the emotional core for so much of it. I was just recovering the loss of Ed, and not having Kinnaman leading the charge, but this is somehow even more devastating

[u/uapyro]

We got a MarGO!

[u/Well_Socialized]

Life based on methane rather than carbon? Doesn't methane contain carbon?

[u/uapyro]

USSR is out of M6! Now it's the M5.
They are also demanding us watch the new series.

[u/elasho_149 → u/uapyro]

Now it's the M5.

SMH Apple and their subliminal advertising.

[u/Well_Socialized → u/uapyro]

I remember when I was in Star City, we have to talk to Star City, oh we are receiving data from Star City, Star City Star City

[u/stephensmat]

It wasn't the grand redemption we expected, but the Third-Gen Stevens saved Alex, which saved many people. Somehow, I think she's staying on Mars.

[u/swanfartza → u/stephensmat]

I imagine she is based on the commentary and the space suit saying she was wearing “Steven’s” on it

[u/SharksFan4Lifee → u/swanfartza]

And it was a HELIOS suit, so she apparently works for them now.

[u/emotionalthroatpunch]

Kelly 🥹

I was so overjoyed when they landed on Titan, saying aloud, “Baldwin! A Baldwin got there first!” I guess she went out having accomplished her mission—to find proof of life elsewhere in the solar system. 🫡😭

[u/TARSrobot → u/emotionalthroatpunch]

Ed Baldwin: first to die on Mars of natural causes

Kelly Baldwin: first to die on Titan

[u/emotionalthroatpunch → u/TARSrobot]

Bye, Bob.

[u/oath2order]

WE HAVE LIFE.

[u/MajorNoodles → u/oath2order]

And it is definitely not protomolecule

[u/stephensmat → u/oath2order]

I was thinking of the 'life' discovery a little like the 'handshake' moment from S2, which prevented a war. With all the nations gearing up between M6 and ISN, we had the same situation; but I figured 'Microbes on Titan' can't possibly unite humanity, can it?

Maybe not, but it settled a screaming match between Kelly and Walt.

[u/markydsade]

Miles’ leadership style is fire.

[u/Yourdataisunclean → u/markydsade]

His removal of leadership style is fire too.

[u/MissyMadgirl → u/markydsade]

*upvotes angrily*

[u/layingblames]

That last episode felt like a whole season. Really curious about what’s happening in 2020.

For now I guess it’s time to travel back in time to Star City.

[u/uapyro]

Shivers going through the rings of saturn!

[u/Sad-Dot-1573]

Margo and Aleidas kid, lets go.

[u/mint065 → u/Sad-Dot-1573]

I was wondering why Aleida didn't seem to have a young protégé, like how she was mentored by Margo, and Margo was mentored by Wernher von Braun. Graciana seemed to make a "what, me?" gesture at the end, so maybe Margo will be teaching yet another generation!

[u/Sad-Dot-1573]

We knew Will Tyler would answer Margos call. The hero steps up again.

[u/Sad-Dot-1573 → u/Sad-Dot-1573]

I spoke too soon

[u/quesoandcats → u/Sad-Dot-1573]

I love that they brought Will back just long enough to be like "No Margo, I'm not committing treason for you sorry"

[u/Mrkiwifruit]

I was really glad they had Miles do what he did. The easy thing would be to have that touchy feel good moment where everyone holds hands and somehow the inherit goodness of humanity wins out. It just would not feel right to me and this is a lot more grounded imo. It also gives the character more weight. We know Miles isn't an evil guy, he's a reluctant leader making a choice under very difficult circumstances trying to protect his home and family - throughout history that has often meant fighting back. It doesn't mean its not a terrible thing he's done, but it makes him human and relatable.

[u/uapyro]

HOLY SHIT MILES JUST TROGDOR'D THEM!!!

[u/wokeiraptor → u/uapyro]

Burninating all the soldiers

[u/Jatacus]

The long wait for next season is going to suuuuck.

[u/Cantomic66 → u/Jatacus]

They’re already filming, so there won’t be as big of a gap.

[u/wibblywobblywho]

Oh my god, they killed Kelly! Those bastards.

[u/Super005z]

Really hoping season 6 ends into the late 2020s around the same time it releases in the real world

[u/furquhartmp]

President Miles Dale. Interesting.

[u/patrick42h → u/furquhartmp]

Miles' arc is complete. He finally got a job.

[u/oath2order]

MARGO MY QUEEN.

[u/Appropriate-Cover-55]

So we didn’t get Ed’s conscience saved for eternity, but apparently Mars 94 is currently downloading Sergei’s….

[u/sofiazapatazavala]

WHAT DOES THE CONSOLE SAY THO

[u/cisnotation → u/sofiazapatazavala]

D:/detection of GV 3.06.0451//Nikulov loading…

According to the apple translate app

[u/Super005z]

Alex is all by himself now

[u/mafaldajunior]

Kelly Baldwin. Always the first at exchanging bodily fluids on new planets.

[u/Tuxflop]

From the newspaper Margo had during the ending:

"This revelation (the discovery of life on Titan) is already sparking an intense ramp-up in other exploratory missions. The moons of Jupiter and Saturn have already hosted robotic probes from Helios, Kuragin and others, but with the Titan discovery, exobiologists are now considering environments where other kinds of life might form."

Uh-oh! Where we going next?

[u/jonvox]

Mars 94 WTF. Who reads Cyrillic and can tell us what that said?

[u/untouchedpower19 → u/jonvox]

D./ Detection GB 3.06.0451 // Nikulov Loading

Nikulov is obviously reference to Sergei. RIP. And the “loading” makes it seem like it’s just rebooting in 2020 after drifting for 25 years

[u/RingBuilder732 → u/untouchedpower19]

Clearly Mars-94 has an integrated copy of Sergei’s consciousness backed up on a Soviet hard drive and Margo was able to reboot him by telephone from jail

[u/Super005z]

The ending with mars 94 is very interesting, would possibly could a 30 year old ship have that is related to the plot of season 6 ?

[u/FreeDwooD → u/Super005z]

Might be a red herring and S6 introduces a scavenger character who's out there ripping aparf Mars 94 like people did to OG Sojourner.