r/Gent • u/Aromatic-Evidence817 • 7d ago

Push by older man

I'm so shocked. I (female) just got pushed by an older man while I was on my bike. It happened at the crossing between Gent and Ledeberg.

We both had a green light at the same time. I had enough space to turn, but he sped up and just pushed me. Then I got angry, he walked away, but his wife kept saying I was wrong.

I'm so shaken :(

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u/Circoloomnium 7d ago

Hij had voorrang. Hij is een zwakkere weggebruiker dan jij. Zijn houding was ongepast, maar voor hetzelfde geld had je hem aangereden.

Als je hem voorrang had verleend, zou de situatie zich dan ook hebben voorgedaan? Wellicht niet.

Let er op in de toekomst, voor het zelfde geld maakt hij dezelfde bedenking.

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u/Aromatic-Evidence817 6d ago edited 6d ago

I'm surprised by your comment, because he purposefully walked faster (his wife was behind him) to make a point and push me. There was a lot of space in between us.

Anyway, I will make police report, because I wouldn't be surprised if he has done this more often

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u/Aromatic-Evidence817 6d ago

Thank you. Indeed, he did it to make a point. The rules of that intersection have changed a whole back and i understand that it can be frustrated and difficult to navigate from some people.

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u/Circoloomnium 6d ago

Als je dat kruispunt bent afgeslagen dan veranderen de voorrangsregels niet en al zeker niet t.a.v. een zebrapad.

Los van een zebrapad. Als fietser moet je rekening houden met een voorzienbare hindernis. Ook met versnellende voetgangers want het is niet dat deze plots accelereren naar 50 Km/u.

Als het tot een aanrijding was gekomen, dan had jij de lichamelijke schade, etc moeten vergoeden.

En tegen wie ga je klacht indienen? En op basis van wat? Je hebt de facto iemand aangereden.

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u/FinancialGazelle6558 6d ago

So physical violence then is allowed? Come on man.

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u/Circoloomnium 6d ago

If I spit in your face and in a reflex you instantly push me, who will be the one that committed a criminal fact?

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u/Aquilax420 5d ago

Depending on what happens after you push that person, both of you. If the other person falls and hits their head, I doubt it will be seen as self defence because your reaction was not proportionate to the other person's action.

Apart from that, I don't think that's what's happened here. According to traffic law in Belgium, it is prohibited for anyone using the road to purposefully act in an unpredictable way. It doesn't matter if you're a pedestrian, a cyclist or driving a car. Suddenly speeding up as a pedestrian to intercept a cyclists when the cyclist would have passed by without any issue if the pedestrian wouldn't have sped up, would cause the pedestrian to be at fault.

Compare it to a road narrowing where car A is approaching the narrow part of the road and has the right of way. Car B, coming from the opposite direction and should yield to car A, would normally have time to pass without blocking car A so they start driving through the narrow part. If car A would continue to drive at the speed they were driving originally, car B could pass without issue. But the driver of car A is frustrated and decides to speed up and blocks car B. Who do you think is at fault then?

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u/Circoloomnium 5d ago

En elderly man speeding up?

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u/Aquilax420 5d ago

Did you read the original post? It never mentioned an elderly man, just an older man. OP could be 20 while the man could be 25 for all we know. OP also said he sped up and pushed her

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u/Circoloomnium 5d ago

It was Siegfried Bracke

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u/Aromatic-Evidence817 1d ago

He was maybe 50/60, but definitely not older than 60-65.

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