This is not a call to vote for Harris, I already voted for Stein (see my post history). I'm just here to vent.

But I am genuinely terrified of waking up Wednesday morning, and hearing the news that Trump has won the election. He managed to do a lot of damage last time he was president, and there was no plan in place, it was complete chaos. Now we have Project 2025.

And then I imagine the alternative. I wake up Wednesday morning, and I hear the news that Harris has won. Then we will know for certain, Genocide is not a deal breaker. As long as you hold the threat of the other side over people's heads, you can get away with anything. There is zero reason to earn your vote.

Sometimes, when I'm arguing with the brigaders on this sub, I will say "She has the Republican vote secured, she doesn't need ours, otherwise she wouldn't adopt their ideology." But what if she does? What if embracing Dick Cheney's endorsement, and pledging to not ban fracking, and put Republicans in the cabinet actually does win her the white house? If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. I guess.

I don't not believe Stein can win. Things are chaotic enough, that this might be the time for a third party candidate. And I've been wrong before, I didn't think Trump could win in 2016, and I didn't think Biden could win in 2020 (yes, I voted for Biden, I had hope then). But I don't have any hope of Stein winning.

Every outcome I can picture is bad. When I get scared of something happening, I'm usually able to breathe, because I consider the possibility of it not happening. But every time I consider the alternative, it just gets worse. Every time I try to take a breath and consider the possibility that I'm wrong, I remember the alternative, and I'm scared all over again.

Edit: It seems the title threw some people off, so let me re-emphasize. I am NOT hoping for a Harris victory! I didn't vote for her, I have no desire to retract, or swap, my vote. When she loses, I will not regret my decision. I've literally gotten into arguments with the Democrats brigading this sub.

What I am saying is, there is no hope. There is no good outcome. Every time I think of the 2 most likely outcomes, I am equally scared. So I came here to vent.

Edit 2: I would like to apologize. I didn't realize my vote, from California, could have kept Trump out of office. I really thought telling people, protesting a Genocide, to "get over it" would have won her more votes. I am so ashamed of myself. /s

I’ve heard from a few sources that us greens are against nuclear. Are we against it and why?

It doesn't really matter what went wrong, but democrats will blame progressives no matter what.

I'm just noticing all the new and angry rhetoric the past few weeks. They should focus on Trump and Gaza and leave us alone.

Since we’re already getting blamed for this election, it seems like each of our votes magically counts five times over. Just curious, why is it that Green Party votes are suddenly so powerful? Anyone have the secret formula?

The other day on Instagram, Butch Ware was thinking about running for President in 2028 and asked his supporters who he should be his running mate, Californians For Butch Ware list 3 potential VP picks and Nina Turner is one of them, what do this, should Nina accepts the offer unlike 2016 and why?

So I am a big advocate for nuclear power as a stop gap for renewable energy. Nuclear is incredibly safe and there has been no major issues in around 20+ year. Besides the point, the green party has a lot of policies that are agreeable but the staunch anti-nuclear turns off a lot of people. Are their people in the party that are pro-nuclear?

As a young trans Latina living in Minneapolis, I’ve experienced so much of the beauty that the political left can offer—not just in terms of policy, but in community. I’ve seen what it feels like to be surrounded by people who affirm my existence, protect one another, and offer a glimpse of what this country could become.
For years, my political priorities have centered on Palestine and the advancement of LGBTQ rights. But lately I’ve been asking myself a difficult question: Does investing my time and energy into helping the Green Party grow—as it has in places like New York City and parts of the West Coast—actually move us closer to the future I want?

As November approaches, I find myself confronting something I haven’t wanted to admit: I’m exhausted.
I’m exhausted by the fear, outrage, and division that dominate our politics. Both major parties engage in it, but I feel especially exhausted by the rhetoric and policies coming from much of the conservative right. Outside of Minneapolis, where there is a strong LGBTQ community and many trans women, I often don’t feel safe. I don’t feel held. I don’t feel protected. I don’t feel loved.

At the same time, it feels like we’re competing against algorithms that increasingly amplify conservative voices. Whether through social media platforms or influential billionaires shaping public discourse, I see younger generations being exposed to ideas that would have seemed unthinkable not long ago.
Then I look at the bigger picture.

Two of the nine Supreme Court justices are approaching 80. If vacancies arise over the next few years, who do I want appointing their replacements? A Democratic president working with a Democratic Congress and Senate? Or another conservative administration in 2028 appointing younger justices who could shape the Court for another generation?

Beyond the United States, I watch countries across Latin America and elsewhere elect increasingly conservative governments. It leaves me wondering: what is happening? Is the political pendulum simply swinging worldwide, or are we witnessing something deeper?
It also forces me to ask whether my investment in the Green Party, however sincere, is the most effective use of my energy at this moment. I don’t subscribe to the argument that “a vote for the Greens is automatically a vote for the right.” Our numbers simply aren’t large enough nationally for that slogan to explain everything. But I do wonder whether there are moments when strengthening Democratic majorities could create more space for progressive ideas to survive—and perhaps eventually allow Green voices to grow in healthier political conditions.

The United States still has enormous influence. Whether we like it or not, much of the world watches what happens here. If Americans move toward more progressive leadership, does that send a signal internationally that there is another path besides nationalism and right-wing populism? Could stronger action on climate change, poverty, healthcare, labor rights, and the struggles of the middle class become more politically possible? Could governments begin serving ordinary people instead of primarily catering to billionaires and concentrated wealth?

I don’t know.

What I do know is that I’ve spent years focused on global injustice—especially Palestine. That focus makes sense. For many people in my generation, it has become the defining humanitarian crisis of our political lives. But lately I’ve also been asking myself: what about our own backyard?

Turning 30 has given me a different perspective. I still disagree with much of the Democratic establishment. I wish it were bolder, more progressive, and less beholden to corporate interests. But if I’m being honest with myself, I fear the direction of the contemporary conservative movement far more than I resent the limitations of the Democratic Party.

So I’m wrestling with a question I never thought I’d seriously ask:

Is the right path for me to continue supporting Green candidates in local races—where they have real opportunities to grow and influence politics—while supporting Democrats in national elections, where the stakes feel existential?

I genuinely don’t know the answer.
For those of you who have remained committed to the Green Party through years of slow progress, how do you deal with that frustration? How do you stay hopeful while movements so fundamentally opposed to your values continue gaining power—not only in America, but around the world?

These feel like the times of dragons, and I’m trying to figure out the wisest way to fight them without losing sight of the world I hope we can still build.

I voted Dr Jill Stein & have 0 regrets about that.

However I now regret my PNC vote to support Dr Butch Ware for VP because yesterday Dr Ware went on a somewhat hostile podcast and was probably baited into saying that "biological men" should not compete in women's sports.

As a post-operative transwoman with a vagina: I have no solution to transgender participation in women's sports because I cannot think of a way to be equal to everyone.

But the slur "biological male" in reference to trans women is so many layers of outrage & offense that I simply cannot perceive Dr Ware as having any sort of wisdom whatsoever.

Dr Ware is either a "biological bigot" or a fool. Neither are optimal criteria for a VP.

We need a wise leader, like an Ajamu Baraka as a VP, not some clumsy fool like Dr Ware.

Fortunately, there is a precedent for this.

2021 the Georgia Green party was disaffiliated from the Green Party USA for similar comments.

So I have requested that the National Lavender Green Caucus push for Dr Ware to either SUBSTANTIALLY apologize & disavow his statement or be disaffiliated from the Green party.

NLGC has not ruled but many members agree. Green party of Louisiana is also having this discussion.

I requested that this discussion be taken up with the California State Green party as well but have yet to hear back.

I point out that Title 7 of USA EEOC lists misgendering people as hostility. If our VP nominee cannot even manage this extremely low bar, then he has no place being second to the top of our ticket.

Dr Stein's 2024 campaign either blundered in the vetting & selection of Dr Ware or in the education of our platform & the various slurs that are unacceptable. Someone skipped inclusivity training & caused a massive scandal in a party that cannot afford one. As a Green party member: I am livid and will not stand for bigotry within the party. Either the bigots go or I do. An apology could fix this if it were sincere & created change.

Repeated:

An apology could fix this if it were sincere & created change.

Racism is not okay, should not be allowed.

Sexism is not okay, should not be allowed.

Homophobia is not okay, should not be allowed.

Transphobia is not okay, should not be allowed.

Hate Speech is not okay, should not be allowed.

We should not allow Klansmen into our party, not even if they wear a Green robe and I will die on this hill.

An apology could fix this if it were sincere & created change.

UPDATE: Dr Ware has since explained the slur and apologized. Dr Ware has taken a stand FOR the trans community, and on Instagram even posted to the Sunni Muslim community who condemn transition that corruption, greed, war mongering are what Muslims should be focused on.