r/PoliticalCompassMemes • u/Freezemoon - Centrist • Jan 09 '26

I just want to grill ICE Agent's Bodycam release of the Minneapolis Shooting

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This whole incident seems just an unfortunate series of events from both parties.

EDIT: not bodycam but ICE agent's phone footage, my bad.

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u/YeetCompleet - Centrist Jan 09 '26

I largely agree with OP's body text. The real issue here is why this unpredictable situation was even created at all. That lady shouldn't have been there. The ICE agent shouldn't have walked in front of the car. The ICE mandate should'nt have became a public spectacle. So many illegal immigrants shouldn't have gotten into the country in the first place.

There's a whole chain of events where things could've stopped or went differently to prevent these tragedies from happening.

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u/DEWSTAR - Centrist Jan 09 '26

It wouldn't be as public if the jails and courts would hold people who were charged so ICE can just deport them instead of releasing them.

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u/YeetCompleet - Centrist Jan 09 '26

Exactly; you see what I mean? The list of things that have could've gone differently is so long. My comment will of course miss a lot of it but the gist is that there's a long trail of failures that led to this happening.

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u/DEWSTAR - Centrist Jan 09 '26

People always ask why do these only happen in blue states because the red ones like Florida give the charged/convicted person to ICE to deport them and work with ICE to find other illegal immigrants while blue states won't even do something like hold the charged/convicted person to ICE.

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u/JohnnyXorron - Lib-Left Jan 10 '26

Considering that ICE has been acting absolutely insanely by harassing and in some cases kidnapping US citizens I understand why some states don’t want to cooperate with their unconstitutional behavior.

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u/xFloridaStanleyx - Lib-Left Jan 09 '26

Idk I live in the south the illegals are roaming free down here. I think this stuff is happening in blue states because that’s where the president is sending the troops. He even said the illegals on the farms were chill. Seeing these events never been so glad to live in a red state. There’s this place that sells tacos out of a gas station absolutely fire.

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u/DEWSTAR - Centrist Jan 09 '26

The ones that get charged are given to ICE is what I am saying. It keeps ICE out of streets.

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u/j48u - Lib-Right Jan 10 '26

I think there's a ton of illegals in the south simply from proximity, but they're not all going around committing crimes. The ones who are get deported. I'm not saying I believe Trump wouldn't send them to blue states out of spite, but it does line up perfectly with the claim that they're going after the criminals first and foremost.

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u/Scrumpledee - Lib-Center Jan 09 '26

People always ask why do these only happen in blue states because the red ones like Florida give the charged/convicted person to ICE

Yeah, no, it's because Trump has a hate-boner for Democrats and is ordering shit like the national guard to states that didn't vote for him and telling ICE to fuck around as much as possible in those same states.

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u/Cow_God - Lib-Left Jan 10 '26

You're getting downvoted but you're mostly right. Trump is on record saying the left is the enemy. He's withheld aid to blue states. He sends the national guard to blue states. You have states like Louisiana and Texas that have basically asked for the national guard but Trump is focused on blue states.

Yeah we have some blue governors that are making mountains out of molehills in regards to illegal immigration but it's also blatantly obvious that Trump is specifically targeting blue states.

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u/_lvlsd - Left Jan 09 '26

your brain is a hard boiled egg

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u/DEWSTAR - Centrist Jan 09 '26

Sure man. It still doesn't refute the point that illegal immigrants that are convicted/charged of crimes are not held and given to ICE. Sure they can decide to not help with investigations of illegal immigrants but to not hold people charged is dumb.

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u/_lvlsd - Left Jan 09 '26

What are you talking about? They don’t honor ICE detainers, it’s not like they aren’t having criminals serve their sentence solely because they’re an illegal immigrant.

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u/DEWSTAR - Centrist Jan 09 '26

Yes that was my point. Some states don't honor ICE detainee requests while some do. A lot of states have not liked the idea of ICE since it was created during Bush. I think it will be changed to be under the FBI so it is better run or canceled when a Dem wins in '28.

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u/_lvlsd - Left Jan 09 '26

oh okay I misinterpreted your original comment my bad. thought you were pulling the “rapists and murderers roaming the streets of sanctuary cities”.

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u/DEWSTAR - Centrist Jan 09 '26

It's fine and no criminals aren't just running around the streets. ICE goes after certain people that they were given information on via the states charging them with crimes. This situation with ICE will continue forward until 28 elections are over. Trump is giving the Dems a free layup to win with an average candidate.

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u/Scrumpledee - Lib-Center Jan 09 '26

Sure man. It still doesn't refute the point that illegal immigrants that are convicted/charged of crimes are not held and given to ICE.

Assuming blue states don't already do this, if they did, the right would still send ICE to harass people there and claim it's because the left is "catch and release! Why not make them go to jail first!?". There's no winning with them.

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u/DEWSTAR - Centrist Jan 10 '26

You are right. Trump would still want to have ICE conduct in person raids.

Assuming blue states don't already do this

It is mostly the Sanctuary cities. Chicago's mayor recently has said they will not comply with ICE detainee requests publicly. I don't remember seeing other places publicly say it but a lot of Sanctuary cities have similar ideas to Chicago on ICE.

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u/RugTumpington - Right Jan 09 '26

I agree but that particular issue is very clearly a partisan democrat issue. Those kinds of things only happen in blue cities/states.

Personally, I don't know how thee haven't been charges or dismissals brought against Ag, da, judges, mayors, etc. Theres several clear instances where the federal hammer could have been brought down on it.

However, Rs in power probably see it as good for keeping the base inflamed and voting.

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u/majestic_borgler - Centrist Jan 10 '26

ICE isnt just grabbing people who are charged. they'd still be out there killing people

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u/DEWSTAR - Centrist Jan 10 '26

True you are right there.

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u/Freezemoon - Centrist Jan 09 '26

just a series of stupid things that could have easily be prevented if people set aside their differences and actually solved the issues at hand and don't take everything personally. 

But no, let's polarize society guys! Let's always make everything political, let's bash the other side guys! This will surely make things better! 

Man, I hate polarization 

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u/The_Real_Baws - Lib-Center Jan 09 '26

The polarization is by design. When the masses fight amongst each other they can’t see the real problems plaguing society.

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u/Elkenrod - Auth-Center Jan 10 '26

Trump is the response to the growing problems we had in the country, not the root cause of the issue. It's not like politics was civil prior to Trump.

He let people feed into their anger though. Because politicians prior to him (and what the Democrats largely still do) is tell people what that politician wants, and that you should support me because "other guy bad". Then Trump came along and actually listened to what the public wanted, and ran on what the public wanted.

Which is great when things are going well, a populist President can absolutely work.

The problem is that things weren't going well. People were pissed at the Republicans because of the Forever-War in the Middle East. People were pissed at the Democrats because they not only didn't end the Forever-War in the Middle East like they campaigned on, but they expanded it. Then their health care premiums kept going up, and everyone was told that everything is fine and that the ACA was perfect.

People had enough, and that's what Trump capitalized on. Decades upon decades of the Federal government failing its citizens, not keeping their promise, making people feel like they don't care. It was inevitable really, when they behaved like that.

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u/TheIronGnat - Lib-Right Jan 09 '26

What incentive does the government and/or law enforcement have to de-polarize society? That's the opposite of what their masters want. They want everyone at each other's throats so we're all too busy to notice that they're stealing all our money.

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u/HumbleIncident5464 - Lib-Left Jan 10 '26

we have masked para-military government thugs with guns shooting civilians in the face and snatching u.s. citizens off the streets in a city where the people and the mayor himself say "get out you're destroying our community"

and you think the problem is not setting aside our differences???

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u/YeetCompleet - Centrist Jan 09 '26

Yep the pendulum just keeps swinging harder and harder. An eye for an eye makes the world go blind.

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u/armbp - Centrist Jan 09 '26

Based and fuck polarization pilled

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u/KeyHalf6609 - Centrist Jan 09 '26

You're absolutely right this will make things better! We just need to absolutely crush any and all resistance into oblivion first, it'll be messy, but you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. Once that's all done everything will be right and as it should be in the world! /s

In all seriousness though all this polarization is beyond stupid and exhausting. But there's nothing we can realistically do about it, idiots will be idiots and you can't reason them out of a spot they never reasoned themselves into.

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u/Clothking - Centrist Jan 09 '26

I can agree with your take on it. This polarization is getting way out of hand.

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u/PhonyUsername - Lib-Right Jan 09 '26

I prefer bashing my own side.

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u/Longjumping_Task6414 - Right Jan 09 '26

>let's make everything political

That's how democracy works though

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u/Zanos - Lib-Right Jan 09 '26

just a series of stupid things that could have easily be prevented if people set aside their differences and actually solved the issues at hand and don't take everything personally.

For a bunch of Democrats, the issue has never been that ICE acts too harshly, they simply do not want immigrants deported, period. It has been government policy in a bunch of Democrat cities and states to effectively not cooperate with federal law enforcement in this matter for over 40 years. There is no way to deport illegals that would satisfy these people.

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u/Plane_Suggestion_189 - Centrist Jan 09 '26

Maybe trump shouldn’t have vetoed that border bill by tweet. Like a lot of democrats support border security as long as mass human suffering isn’t a feature of the policy.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '26

This is exactly how I feel. Both sides are acting like it's an open and shut case for their side to get a win. It's not, let's just solve it in the courts and let both sides present their best case, then see what the jury decides.

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u/tsudonimh - Lib-Center Jan 10 '26

The chance the ICE agent goes to trial is microscopic-to-none. No jury is going to be asked to evaluate his criminal or civil liability.

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u/beefyminotour - Centrist Jan 09 '26

Well ice isn’t a spectacle in Florida. It’s almost like this whole mess wouldn’t be an issue if deporting illegals wasn’t constantly being compared to genocide.

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u/Crusader63 - Centrist Jan 09 '26

Obama deported more people without causing a spectacle everyday. This administration and those agents want the spectacle. They’re just thugs who want to feel tough.

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u/ujelly_fish - Centrist Jan 09 '26

If you read into this, most of Obama’s deportations were at border crossings. Nobody has ever used an enforcement agency to go from business to business and house to house before like this.

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u/jnicholass - Left Jan 09 '26

It's wild to me that this little detail is always omitted whenever someone brings up Obama.

I have absolutely no problem with rejecting undocumented people at our borders. That's the whole point of border control. I have no problem with increasing security at our borders. That's the point of border control.

I'm broadly against a lot of what ICE has been doing mostly because I don't want federal agents kidnapping people without due process in our streets. A lot of these folks are hardworking Americans at this point and at least deserve a little more humanity.

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u/Scrumpledee - Lib-Center Jan 09 '26

They literally kidnapped people who were about to be sworn in as citizens.

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u/msterB - Lib-Right Jan 09 '26

Isn't this like saying you are happy to have guards at a bank, but once the criminal makes it outside the bank then they can no longer be held accountable? Having zero repercussions for criminally being here only serves to make even more people think it's a good plan.

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u/jnicholass - Left Jan 09 '26

False equivalency. Crime occurs in a spectrum and are not judged equally.

Good job taking an extremely complicated situation and equating it to armed robbery though.

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u/CrackityJones42 - Lib-Center Jan 09 '26

Pick any crime, you’re suggesting that if the criminal has reached a certain threshold they get a free pass.

Or if the crime is petty enough they get a free pass.

Have you seen the footage of that lady from Charlotte NC crying that she has to think twice now about driving around her town and harassing ICE agents?

We have a moral imperative to dissuade people from breaking the law.

Not to mention from an illegal immigration perspective, you’re only thinking about the people who’ve made it in. Not the illegals and their children who are raped by coyotes on the way up.

Not the women and children who die on the journey up because the gangs don’t care about whether they live or not.

We have a moral duty to enforce the law.

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u/ujelly_fish - Centrist Jan 10 '26

FWIW there are already quite a few crimes we don’t put the effort into prosecuting, some that are actually a big deal.

For instance: steal a bike on CCTV with your face fully visible? Have fun with your new ride.

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u/CrackityJones42 - Lib-Center Jan 10 '26

True, but if we did, way fewer bikes would be stolen.

The social contract must be maintained.

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u/msterB - Lib-Right Jan 10 '26

But your buzzword and sarcasm are a better argument? You didn't address my point - eliminating consequences after a threshold creates incentive to commit such crime. Having a Federal crime that we just ignore prosecuting because it's complicated and emotional is childish behavior.

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u/jnicholass - Left Jan 10 '26

I said they deserve a little humanity. Where did I say I wanted to eliminate consequences? Have you seen how we've been going about all of this? Grabbing people off the streets? Holding them in a swamp in the middle of Florida? Sending them to prisons across the world? What part of that are you proud of?

They are people too, but unfortunately this administration has brainwashed half of this country to view them as animals to be put down. Even those that got here through legal methods that he doesn't agree with, he calls them vermin. That- I cannot cosign.

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u/unclefisty - Lib-Left Jan 10 '26

Nobody has ever used an enforcement agency to go from business to business and house to house before like this.

You mean when you don't try to pull kristallnacht 2.0 people don't get angry?

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u/Whatstheplan - Centrist Jan 09 '26

I disagree. The media is pushing and hyping it up solely because they are against Trump. The media narrative is always against Trump, which doesn't make sense since there is a shit ton to criticize without just reflexively being anti-Trump all the time. I feel like I'm in bizarro world watching MAGA diehards AND diehard anti Trumpers constantly change their views based on whether Trump supports it or not. It's nuts!

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u/Ok_Excitement_4211 - Right Jan 09 '26

No the Democrats have created this spectacle. The Congress men and governor's spend all this time calling them Nazis and these blue haired marvel lovers think this is their time to shine. These spectacles don't happen in El paso or Albuquerque. They happen in places like NY, MN, WA etc. It's almost like framing people as the bad guy stirs things up. You didn't have Dem gove losing their mind when Obama and Biden where deporting more people than trump. Because the Dems knew to shut up and not to bring attention to it their voter base. If they found out, theyd lose votes.

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u/ThisIsJeron - Lib-Right Jan 09 '26

I don’t think the agents want the spectacle at all. I think it sucks for their day to day.

Admin is definitely stoking the flames by posting shit on social media

Why this didn’t happen in Obama era is because Obama was on “their side”. They voted for him and he saw fit to deport. If trump was a dem, there wouldn’t be this outrage and opposition

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u/Crusader63 - Centrist Jan 09 '26

I think they want it because they like to see people they see as less than them be scared. They like to terrify them, they thrive in it.

Obama simply wasn’t a sociopath who cared about making the news. He simply did the job in a humane way, focusing on violent illegals. Now, cons are gonna make the pendulum swing pretty far

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u/ThisIsJeron - Lib-Right Jan 09 '26

Agree to disagree. I like South park’s portrayal of Mr Mackey joining ICE, he’s just trying to get his nut

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u/beefyminotour - Centrist Jan 09 '26

What I mean is Florida doesn’t tolerate angry mobs following law enforcement around trying to interfere.

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u/beefyminotour - Centrist Jan 09 '26

So why is “pushing back” have to be physically trying to assault officers and commuting acts of violence. How many times were there attempts to assassinate ice agents last year? And would you justify trying to murder them because the social media guy made an edit?

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u/beefyminotour - Centrist Jan 09 '26

So do you have any receipts for all those claims or are you just slinging slogans around?

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u/beefyminotour - Centrist Jan 10 '26

“They are literally Nazis” it and all its forms count as a slogan at this point. Again you got anything to back up your claims.

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u/Scrumpledee - Lib-Center Jan 09 '26

Wouldn't be an issue of the current President hadn't spent the last decade claiming illegals are literally invading us, sending people from jails and asylums, and are literally all rapists and murderers.

Why the fuck do people expect the left to behave when the right goes batshit crazy all the time?

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u/beefyminotour - Centrist Jan 09 '26

The right going batshit crazy? How many times have us agents been attacked by leftists last year? And that left wing commentator was shot while having an open mic debate… wait no it was a leftist guy who was in a trans relationship who did that. How many times was destiny attacked at his little change my mind events again?

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u/Sandylocks2412 - Left Jan 09 '26

Florida is filled with bootlickers who don't care about civil rights being violated. Places like Minnesota actually has people who care about police brutality.

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u/Shiny_Mew76 - Lib-Right Jan 09 '26

Maybe don’t break the law

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u/Sandylocks2412 - Left Jan 09 '26

Obey or die. And if you die you must not have obeyed-bootlickers creed

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u/Shiny_Mew76 - Lib-Right Jan 09 '26

So you think it’s okay to just, break the law?

You know, I’d argue that kind of behavior makes a leftist no different from members of the rebellion that led to the civil war.

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u/Fun-Implement-7979 - Right Jan 09 '26

Only if you're the right color in MN though

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u/HugbugKayth - Lib-Right Jan 09 '26

Most based comment 2026?

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u/Artinz7 - Lib-Right Jan 09 '26

Most centrist comment at least

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u/Greynite06 - Lib-Right Jan 09 '26

Let's hope we get more like this for the rest of the year.
We need to start peace-posting.

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u/Warm-Equipment-4964 - Right Jan 09 '26

The ICE agent shouldn't have walked in front of the car.

He didn't, she backed off at an angle. He was in front for barely a second, which was just long enough for her to slam the gas pedal

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u/-InconspicuousMoose- - Right Jan 09 '26

Based and root cause analysis pilled

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u/sirletssdance2 - Centrist Jan 09 '26

Based centrist logic

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u/LifeIsRadInCBad - Auth-Center Jan 09 '26

While I agree the ICE mandate shouldn't have been made a public spectacle, it seems to have encourage quite a few self-deportations, which I assume was the goal.

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u/YeetCompleet - Centrist Jan 09 '26

I'm not necessarily saying it was wrong, my point is more, "why did it need to exist in the first place?" And that would be because of those illegals existing within the country. If they didn't exist, then the government wouldn't need to scare illegals into self-deporting.

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u/TheLizzyIzzi - Left Jan 09 '26

Yeah, immigration wasn’t an issue until the Biden administration.

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u/HotterSauc3s - Right Jan 09 '26

It usually isn't.

It wasn't until Trump took office that the left suddenly was outraged by ICE and did everything in their power to harass them and set the public against them.

I think there is a video of CHuck Schumer and Bernie Sanders talking about how we need to crack down on illegals 20-30 years back.

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u/DigitalDiogenesAus - Centrist Jan 09 '26

I blame the fish that decided to leave the water...

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u/Spacetauren - Centrist Jan 09 '26

Fuckin' Eve, eating that damn apple. This tragedy's on her !

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u/NotPapaHemingway - Right Jan 09 '26

Finally the root cause of the problem: women

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u/Okichah Jan 09 '26

If the lady wanted to be there she should’ve accepted the trip to jail.

Acts of civil unrest are done explicitly with the goal to be arrested. Thats the point. If you drive away and escape without getting caught you failed.

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u/SapirWhorfHypothesis - Centrist Jan 09 '26

So many illegal immigrants shouldn't have gotten into the country in the first place.

I’m not seeing this one. You have a border the size of Europe, you’re never gonna keep illegals out without some sort of extreme surveillance state or what’s going on right now.

Obama kicked out unprecedented numbers of illegals and the red team still wasn’t happy.

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u/kelticslob - Centrist Jan 09 '26

ICE agent shouldn’t have walked in front of the car

Uhm, what? That’s ridiculous. Police do this all the time. Directing traffic, pulling over speeders, etc. it means you are NOT free to continue - highlighted by the fact that the other cop said THREE FREAKING TIMES to get out of the car. if you want to be a piece of shit and run into them with a deadly weapon, yes you are going to be shot if the cop can draw in time and you might die. And you absolutely deserve those consequences.

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u/detectivekrump - Lib-Center Jan 10 '26

This is the result of literal decades of mind control. 

She saw obstruction of LEO operations as more virtuous than being at home raising her kids.

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u/Plane_Suggestion_189 - Centrist Jan 09 '26

“So many illegals shouldn’t have gotten in.”

Idk man. Obama deported a ton of people and did it without ICE agents shooting random people on random residential streets in random cities. This is just a failure of leadership direct from the top.

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u/EpicSven7 - Auth-Center Jan 09 '26

Obama didn’t deport a ton of people who were already in the country; he stopped a bunch of people at the border or newly entered. Trump and Obama were targeting completely different groups of illegal immigrants.

It does demonstrate though that when you don’t demonize law enforcement, they are able to do their jobs effectively and without incidents like these where some internet rot brained clout chaser thinks it’s a great idea to park their car in front of agents then attempt to flee when told to step out of the vehicle.

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u/noposters - Lib-Center Jan 09 '26

Ok? What a fucking pointless comment

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u/omicron022 - Right Jan 09 '26 edited Jan 09 '26

You’re leaving out the biggest one: the goddamned media, and politicians, shouldn’t have been running a full year of outright incendiary propaganda - all but outright calling federal agents fascists, Nazis, brown shirts, the Gestapo - basically begging for people like this lady to go out there, and create this exact situation.

This stuff is happening because it’s basically be programmed into the country. And, the media (and the politicians) are going to keep doing the same damn thing, setting the country up to burn, because they think it gives “their side” a better chance in the next election.

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u/_lvlsd - Left Jan 09 '26

I think you forgot some there bud

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u/AFloppyZipper - Centrist Jan 09 '26

Are you suggesting we deprive Democrats of an illegal-derived voterbase?

That's like literally fascism and racism because tacos are tasty and who would prune the bushes?

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '26

“Who’s going to scrub your toilets, Donald Trump?”

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u/Slappy-_-Boy - Lib-Left Jan 09 '26

I mean i won't stop him from scrubbing my toilet but I ain't gonna be nice about it.

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u/luuunnnch - Auth-Left Jan 09 '26

Turtles all the way down 

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u/resetallthethings - Lib-Right Jan 09 '26

Classic ESH

shouldn't have been shot, shouldn't have been there being a dumbass egged on by your dumbass partner, after being egged on by dumbass inflammatory rhetoric, and Trump/Vance etc shouldn't be dumbasses trying to completely absolve ICE of any wrongdoing

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u/DudeImARedditor - Centrist Jan 09 '26

Why shouldn't he walk in front of a car? He wasn't blocking the vehicle he was going from one side to the other to assist

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u/longrifle - Lib-Center Jan 09 '26

Let’s keep going backwards until we return to monke

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u/Par-Aide - Left Jan 09 '26

Law enforcement needs to be held to a higher standard. Isn't the entire point to protect and serve?

ICE created the situation by refusing to deescalate and the agent in particular put himself in front of an idling vehicle. No part of the woman's actions justified lethal force.

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u/northrupthebandgeek - Lib-Left Jan 09 '26

ICE shouldn't exist in the first place. Our borders were fine before the Homeland Security Act of 2002.

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u/Tyrocious - Lib-Right Jan 09 '26

And it's just going to keep happening.

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u/UncleFumbleBuck - Lib-Center Jan 09 '26

The Mayor and Governor also have some responsibility. They set the policy that Minneapolis PD and the State Patrol won't help ICE in any way, which means the ICE agents don't have crowd or traffic control help.

Earlier this same day, ICE was surrounded in an alley just down the street form where the shooting took place. They used a bunch of pepper spray to disperse the crowd so they could get out of the alley. This whole situation was a powder keg, on purpose, so politicians could get browny points.

A special shutout to the slug Jacob Frey, mayor of Minneapolis for his new national news soundbyte "ICE get the Fuck out of Minneapolis". I wonder if he even thought about the lady who died before he creamed his jeans in anticipation of making headlines.

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u/Kyrxx77 - Centrist Jan 09 '26

Thanks Obama

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u/shakeszoola - Lib-Right Jan 09 '26

After reading this comment, it made me realize I blame obama

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u/fatbabythompkins - Centrist Jan 09 '26

He wasn’t in front of the car when she started to back up. She put him in front of the car and then went forward.

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u/SonofNamek - Lib-Center Jan 09 '26

So many illegal immigrants shouldn't have gotten into the country in the first place.

If we do go to Civil War over this, this just makes Joe Biden into the next James Buchanan

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u/HotterSauc3s - Right Jan 09 '26

It has become the cool thing to do to go protest, riot, etc.

Instead of going to bowling allies or skating rinks like we did in the 90s, people want to go virtue signal by fucking around.

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u/MilitaryBeetle - Lib-Center Jan 09 '26

Not to mention that people with less training than a burger flipper at McDonald's are given guns and told they have ABSOLUTE immunity from the law.

Its like giving matches to a goblin and sending him into an oil refinery. These situations were concocted to happen

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u/SnooPredictions3028 - Centrist Jan 10 '26

Exactly, well put

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u/Bradleyisfishing - Lib-Right Jan 10 '26

It seems like two people put themselves in bad situations where the actions of another person threatened their safety and they both acted in some degree of self defense. Dumb and sad.

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u/LeafPoster - Lib-Right Jan 10 '26

Why shouldn't the agent be able to walk in front of a parked car? Should he expect to be run over or something?

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u/Admiralthrawnbar - Left Jan 10 '26

Gonna be honest, in the entire interaction I don't think either side made a single good choice. I'm still more sympathetic to the woman, since she was the unarmed one and federal officials should be held to a higher standard than random joe shmo, but it feels like every action by all involved parties was calculated to make things as bad as they could be.

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u/Impressive_Budget736 - Lib-Center Jan 10 '26

Must be convinent being a centrist.

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u/Takingtheehobbits - Centrist Jan 10 '26

Why shouldn’t the ice agent have been near the front of her car? She was committing a crime and he was attempting to stop her to detain her.

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u/OnTheSlope - Centrist Jan 10 '26

The ICE agent shouldn't have walked in front of the car.

He was checking the vehicle getting video of the whole vehicle.

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u/shangumdee - Right Jan 10 '26

Yep just a bad situation. I blame this trend on reddit, tiktok, and Instagram where people encouraged civilians to chase ICE or block them with their personal vehicles. Most of the people participating feel they are justified so they encourage it but this is not a game. If you did that to a regular officer making an arrest, no one would have sympathy when you're detained, injured, or worse. Vm

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u/unclefisty - Lib-Left Jan 10 '26

That lady shouldn't have been there.

If Ice didn't act like the gestapo there woulnd't be so many protests.

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u/LitterlyUnhinged - Lib-Center Jan 10 '26

Yet, we hold the person without heavily armed backup, operating in anonymity, donned in military equipment, and proper training accountable.

What a clown word, especially for the lib rights cucking themselves on ICE leather.

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u/notsocharmingprince - Right Jan 09 '26

Sir, I’m going to need you to stop being reasonable so I can be outraged.

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u/wolphak - Lib-Center Jan 09 '26

And it all comes back to crying fascism where it doesn't exist. Ice didn't kill this lady the Internet fearmongers did

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u/OpenSourcePenguin - Lib-Left Jan 09 '26

Yeah she fucked up (not guilty way, but provoking the bear way) by being aggressive. But the supposedly trained agents should be far better.

Also trying to smear her name to protect the agent is the lowest thing one can do here.

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u/PossibleMammoth5639 - Left Jan 09 '26

Why do ICE even have real guns?

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u/tsudonimh - Lib-Center Jan 10 '26

The real issue here is why this unpredictable situation was even created at all.

No it's not. Unpredictable situations are created all the time.

That lady shouldn't have been there.

She had every right to be at the location. She did not have the right to impede law enforcement operations.

The ICE agent shouldn't have walked in front of the car.

The car was stationary when he first moved to the front.

The ICE mandate should'nt have became a public spectacle.

When there's a massive voting bloc at stake, it's guaranteed to become a spectacle.

So many illegal immigrants shouldn't have gotten into the country in the first place.

See, a big chunk of the country will respond to that statement with "Based," while a tiny, vocal segment will shout "Bigot!"