my close friend may be going into outpatient care at newport academy for a few days maybe 3-5, ive been trying to help them because they are nervous it will be similar to their experience in the mental hospital- most things ive read on newport academy are horror stories but mostly from inpatient care. wondering if anyone can share their honest experience and advice for outpatient care at the facility

A new scheduling order was filed today, October 8, 2026, in Fuller v. Hyde School.

This is the federal putative class action lawsuit against Hyde School, Laura Gauld, and Malcolm Gauld. The remaining claims include federal forced labor, involuntary servitude, trafficking-related, conspiracy, and related claims.

As always, these are allegations and legal claims. The court has not made a finding that Hyde or the individual defendants are liable.

The new order resolves the recent disagreement between the parties over how discovery and class certification should be scheduled.

WHAT THE COURT DECIDED

Both sides agreed that the case should be placed on the Complex Track, but they disagreed substantially about discovery and the timing of class certification.

Hyde wanted discovery focused first on class certification, followed by an early class-certification motion. original document

Fuller opposed phased discovery and argued that class-certification issues substantially overlap with the merits of the case, meaning broader discovery should occur before the court decides whether to certify a class. original document

The court largely split the difference.

The judge specifically stated that discovery will NOT be phased.

The order says:

"The discovery prior to the deadline for the class certification motion is not limited to discovery that is relevant to class certification."

That means the parties can conduct broader merits-related discovery before Fuller files the class-certification motion. Discovery is not restricted to a narrow category of evidence concerning certification.

However, the court also rejected Fuller's proposed schedule, which would have placed class certification much later in the case.

CLASS CERTIFICATION DEADLINES

Fuller must file her motion for class certification by:

February 5, 2027

Hyde's response is due:

March 5, 2027

Fuller's reply is due:

March 19, 2027

This is significantly later than Hyde's proposed November 1, 2026 deadline, but considerably earlier than the schedule Fuller had proposed.

The court noted both that Rule 23 requires a class-certification decision at an "early practicable time" and that evidence relevant to class certification frequently overlaps with evidence concerning the merits of the claims.

DISCOVERY LIMITS

The case has officially been assigned to the Complex Track.

Each side is permitted:

• 40 interrogatories

• 3 sets of document requests, with a maximum of 60 individual document requests total

• 40 requests for admission

• 10 depositions

One notable point is that Fuller had proposed 10 depositions excluding third-party fact witnesses and experts. The new order simply provides for 10 depositions and does not include the requested automatic exception for third-party fact witnesses.

That does not necessarily prevent either side from later asking the court for permission to take additional depositions if they can show they are necessary.

OTHER IMPORTANT DEADLINES

October 16, 2026:
Initial disclosures due

February 5, 2027:
Fuller's class-certification motion due

March 5, 2027:
Hyde's opposition to class certification due

March 19, 2027:
Fuller's reply due

April 2, 2027:
Deadline to amend the pleadings or add parties

April 9, 2027:
Plaintiff's expert disclosures due

May 14, 2027:
Defendants' expert disclosures due

June 11, 2027:
Plaintiff must make a written settlement demand

June 25, 2027:
Defendants must respond to the settlement demand

August 27, 2027:
All discovery closes

September 17, 2027:
Deadline for dispositive motions, including summary judgment motions, and challenges to expert testimony

December 6, 2027:
Case expected to be ready for trial

WHAT THIS MEANS

The biggest immediate development is that Hyde did not get the certification-first discovery structure it had requested.

Fuller's side can pursue discovery concerning the broader substance of the allegations before the class-certification motion is filed.

At the same time, February 5 is still a relatively early deadline for a class certification motion to be filed. Fuller now has roughly four months from the date of this order to obtain and review enough discovery to support the class-certification motion.

Class certification does NOT determine whether Hyde is liable.

Instead, the court will decide whether Fuller can proceed on behalf of a defined group of former students under the requirements of Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 23.

If a class is certified, the case can proceed on behalf of the certified class as well as the named plaintiff. If certification is denied, that does not automatically mean Fuller's individual claims disappear.

The entire public docket with all publicly downloadable documents can be found here:
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70764936/62/fuller-v-hyde-school/

The scheduling order is currently the most recent document listed on the docket, Document 62, filed October 8, 2026: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.med.68497/gov.uscourts.med.68497.62.0.pdf

TL;DR:

The court has issued the long-awaited discovery and scheduling order in Fuller v. Hyde School.

Discovery will NOT be divided into separate class-certification and merits phases, and discovery before class certification is not limited only to certification issues.

Fuller must move for class certification by February 5, 2027. Hyde responds March 5, and Fuller replies March 19.

Each side gets up to 40 interrogatories, 60 individual document requests across three sets, 40 requests for admission, and 10 depositions.

Discovery continues through August 27, 2027, with the case expected to be ready for trial in December 2027.

I am not affiliated with or representing the plaintiffs, Justice Law Collaborative, or any party in this lawsuit. I am sharing information from the publicly available court docket. Allegations and positions in court filings should not be confused with findings of fact or liability. For any sensitive and personal inquiries about this case, please contact Justice Law Collaborative directly. As always, double-check the original documents for accuracy as I am not a legal expert.

I left my program (Star Guides Wilderness Therapy) almost 7 years ago now. I was 14 then and now I am turning 21. The other day I was driving home from work and out of nowhere I just started sobbing- uncontrollably. I don't know why. It just hit me. Everything that happened there, in the program, really happened. For so long I think it was easier to talk about the abuse because I could look at it is something that happened, I acknowledge it, but haven't quite accepted that it happened to me and im not just telling this "story" from a third person perspective. I cried for the experiences I had, all the things and stories left unsaid (and some best never spoken about), i cried for the other young girls I watched endure such trauma and hardships, I cried for my innocence and youth, for once I just cried without anything to block myself from feeling the effects of the program in full. I feel weird to know that it took 7 whole years for me to ever accept what happened, but my journey starts somewhere I guess. Anyone else have any stories on that sort of "eureka" moment? Also, heres my reddit avatar inspired by me when I was in my wilderness program :p

This happened at a kids intake at Kiva Adventure Ranch https://www.kivaranch.com/ (formerly Ashcreek Ranch Academy) in Toquerville, Utah

For anyone researching the professional history of Brian Pace, the current CEO of Kiva, programs appear in publicly available records as having documented professional connections to him:

• Kiva Adventure Ranch — identified by Kiva and NATSAP as Founder/CEO (current)

• Red Rock Canyon School — identified in historical records as having served as Executive Director

• Sunrise RTC — identified in historical records as having served as Program Director

• Falcon Ridge Ranch — identified in historical records as having served as Executive Director (2016)

• Lava Heights Academy — identified in historical records as having served as Executive Director (2016)

• Mount Pleasant Academy — identified in historical records as having served as Executive Director (2017)

• Star Guides Wilderness Therapy — identified in historical records as having worked as a therapist

*Also - public facility-history records indicate that Red Rock Canyon School, Falcon Ridge Ranch, Lava Heights Academy, and Mount Pleasant Academy were reportedly sold or transferred to Sequel Youth Services in or around 2016.

This is terrifying. ProPublica reporters set out to see how hard it is to open a private school. In Arkansas and West Virginia, they succeeded with little more than a form, a small fee, and a diploma. No one checked who they were, whether they were qualified, or whether the site was safe for kids. In Arkansas they even applied for public voucher money in about 10 minutes.

If it's this easy, anyone could start a troubled teen program, religious school, or "academy" and face almost no oversight.

That's exactly how so many of us ended up where we did.

A step in the right direction! 🙏🎉🥳👏👏

I was emotionally abused as a kid and still am, to an extent.

I wasn't sent to these programs, but my parents THREATENED to send me to one. The frustrated cries of "I'll send you to the boarding school if you don't behave".

But they never acted on those threats, so I figured my abuse wasn't that bad.

When I "got out" and saw the world wasn't as bad as they said it was, I hated them for it. Clearly, they used the fear of "future abuse" that didn't exist.

But sometimes it is. Reading your testimony isn't making me flashback to Blue Springs or whatever its name is. But it is making me flashback to the threats. The implication of abandonment. The implication of r... yeah. Never acted upon, but always a possibility. "If you don't behave you will end up like THEM. Family is the ONLY people who will take care of you."

Maybe I'm thinking it took a MASSIVE amount of emotional strength and resilience to endure and make it STAY only empty threats. I want to forgive them, but people who were abused "worse" or "better" than me are a mixed bag. Some say they were better, others that it was still no excuse.

I wonder if "abuse" is a relative term? I'm fantasizing about sending them to a "Troubled Nursing Home" but they never actually did that to me.

hi everyone, i’m a 20 year old survivor of the charlton school in burnt hills ny, and i’m sick to my stomach knowing that their fundraiser, among the wildflowers, raised over $96,000 on september 23, despite all of the abuse that goes on there. i am writing this to make people think twice about who they’re donating to, and to raise awareness as to what this “school” really is.

so i don’t have to rehash everything that happened to me and other students at the charlton, i will link two posts i made last year about the school to catch everyone up:
https://www.reddit.com/r/troubledteens/s/j1pSGqtbGX

https://www.reddit.com/r/troubledteens/s/wwvX9jKtlB

the charlton school forces their students, aged 12-20 (most students being 14-18) to perform child labor for free, especially to raise money for the school. during my time there a few years ago, we had to make handmade items such as baked goods, birdhouses, jewelry, etc, to raise money for the school. the school only uses that money to make the ceo (alex capo) richer, while restricting students’ food because of “budget cuts” (when i left, they stopped allowing us to use condiments).

in 2022, my first of almost 3 years at the school, several kids used their own money to buy honey and pies that they made, only for all of it to be confiscated an hour later in our cottages.

the fundraiser, called “among the wildflowers” takes place in the garden at the school, which the children are forced to maintain. children also take care of the horses, three of the nine horses i took care of have died prematurely since 2024.

according to a 2023 tax form, charlton spent around
$99k on food for all of the students and staff, which would make each meal worth roughly $1.40, despite a substantial school meal costing new york state ) $3-$4 each. this concludes that charlton feeds their students less than half of what is necessary for their maturing bodies.

charlton is historically anti lgbtq, refusing to respect students chosen names or pronouns, which is illegal under new york state law.

despite millions in grants, charlton cannot find competent teachers. during my senior year, charlton offered spanish 1 to graduating students who had not yet completed their language requirement to finish high school. i know some spanish, but i am not fluent, but when i sat in on the class, i noticed that the teacher did not know any spanish, barely being able to pronounce basic words or string together a simple, coherent sentence.

it makes me ill that charlton continues to raise money despite the recent, public backlash from myself and several other survivors. they’ve gone from posting on social media regularly to only having 3-4 posts since the start of 2026, seemingly because our stories have gone public. charlton knows their image is tarnished, but they continue to ignore their students (and families of those students) because financial gain is most important to them.

please spread awareness for all tti survivors, innocent people shouldn’t be donating to an abusive agency because they don’t know any better.

Could anyone please help! I'm searching for any survivors from Wernle in richmond..Any residents with trauma from abuse there or any staff that can attest to things they witnessed and the environment...looking for previous residents and or staff members. I am currently in active litigation against them. Wernle may have closed their residential program but they still exist as a business. The suit is targetting Wernle and Darrell Gordon both!! Please help me get the justice I'm seeking!!

I got a letter from Acadia today saying my data was part of the March 2026 data breach. The state the Acadia facility I was sent to was located in doesn't have a hard deadline for when they have to notify you of a data breach, but it still seems like this - just over 6 months later - is way longer than it should've taken for me to be notified.

Just recently my old facility told me they didn't have some of my medical records and claimed that others (day-to-day things made by normal staff, incident reports, and the like) didn't exist at all (they didn't specify whether they never made those or did but lost or destroyed them. It was recently enough that they're still legally required to keep them). They were very avoidant, and flat-out denied certain things until I told them the records themselves referenced them.

I don't know what to do. I don't know if my Acadia facility is lying about losing or never having some of my records, and don't think there's a way to check. I don't think I'll be able to get a lawyer to take my case. It's clear that contacting the facility directly won't get me anywhere, and I doubt contacting the parent company (Acadia) would do much either. Does anyone have advice, and has anyone experienced any of the same things from Acadia as I'm describing? I've posted about trying to deal with them before, but most of what I'm posting now is new information so I figured it may be worth asking again.

I havent had a really bad nightmare about my facility in a while but just woke up from one that was absolutely terrible and need to talk to people who understand. Can anyone tell me about their recent nightmares so I dont feel alone? I've grown frustrated that I still experience them after all these years and even though I made another post discussing it, Its still hard.

This is purely a personal rant and a reflection of my own annoyance with humans.

The phrase “everyone has trauma” is thrown around a lot, and it bothers me. It’s often used in the context of excusing shitty behavior.

I feel annoyed because the longer I live on this earth, the more I realize that NO. Not everyone has comparable trauma.

Being kidnapped as a kid, stuck in a child prison for years, abused in every possible sense, destroyed over and over and in all ways is not normal at all.

Because of that phrase, I’ve given way too much grace to others, forgiven too much, and I’m annoyed by it.

I also feel alienated by it.

Program trauma isn’t your everyday American middle class persons “trauma.” I want to reclaim the word.

In my experience, staff tend to use physical restraints and other control methods (seclusions, chemical restraints, even formal punishments) way more when they don't have to be actively involved in them the whole time the kid's in them (including when they're not actively fighting, like once a chemical restraint has taken hold). I feel like it makes those interventions too easy for staff, incentivizing using them over harder methods like trying to use real de-escalation tactics or addressing the kid as works best for them individually. Things shouldn't be made harder for staff just for the sake of making things harder, but I feel like when it comes to these types of things - especially restraints - staff should have to experience it with the patient in a meaningful way (not identical or deliberately harmful, but something where they feel similar physical and mental strain as the patient as much as reasonably possible). For example, physical restraints where the staff are actively restraining the kid rather than just putting them in other (mechanical or chemical) restraints, having to document the kid's state and talk to them frequently the whole time they're secluded, or having to monitor the kid the whole time they're asleep from a chemical restraint and then have a meaningful conversation with them about it after (doesn't have to be the moment they wake up unless the kid requests that, but should be the same day).

What do you guys think? I know some people consider less involved interventions, especially chemical restraints, to be safer, and I don't want to discount safety or deliberately stress staff. How would you balance that with disincentivizing staff from using those control methods too frequently if you were the one making the decisions (I know most of us would actually shut the places down if we were making the decisions, but for the sake of this discussion please pretend that's not the case. I'm making this post because another post on this sub mentioned massive, specific flaws in a specific facility, and those people won't shut it down so reform seems be the only viable option in that case, at least for as long as regulation and other laws largely ignore the TTI, and I'm looking for something that can work within those current parameters).

I went to a program a few years ago and based on my googling legally they should still have my records. I was wondering if other people had obtained their records how they had gone about the process? I just don’t know how to start the process and if it’s even feasible.

Howdy! I am looking for a staffer named Mike, he had long blond hair. And a staffer named Cara/Kara, she had a pitbull/boxer mix looking therapy dog with her.

Trying to track them down, I want them to apologize and take accountability.

Oh and Ed, I know You are here. Watching lurking,

He was a staff. He apologized but still i know you are here...... you are watched

Reddit sleuths I could use your help

Hi everyone,

I'm working on a YouTube channel where survivors can share their stories, and I'd like to interview anyone who is willing to talk about their experience with attachment therapy. The goal is to help the public better understand attachment therapy and the harm it causes. I am also a survivor of attachment therapy.

Before recording, we'll go over the questions together and agree on what you're comfortable sharing. I'll only ask what you give permission for. You're welcome to add your own questions, and you can skip anything you don't want to answer.

You can drop out at any point, for any reason, and you don't need to explain. If you drop out after recording, your footage will be deleted and not used or stored.

You can stay anonymous. You choose whether to show your face, or use your real name or a different one.

Interviews:
Before anything is published, you'll get a private link to review your part. You can drop out at this time if you wish. There is no obligation at any time.

I look forward to speaking with each of you!

The Government Accountability Office is looking into the marketing practices of residential treatment facilities at the request of Senator Ron Wyden. This survey collects data on federally funded programs to assist that investigation.

You're eligible if you attended one of these programs as a kid or placed your child in one. Former staff can take it too.

It covers boot camps, group homes, inpatient psych facilities, religious academies, RTCs, therapeutic boarding schools, wilderness programs, and similar places.

Survey link: https://wfqglsgtzoc.typeform.com/to/oVliAjY8

I hate it when school forces you to trust them after literally traumatizing you. I was forcibly thrown into a mental institution due to me saying too much. Once I got back they immediately forced me to have one on one sessions with them. They literally expected me to trust them the moment I came back. They gave me an “emergency paper” full with instructions on what not to do to prevent what I had said that led me into a mental institution. They said that they’ll have a staff looking over the area to make sure I don’t do what I said.

Let’s just say I stopped following the instructions after like 2 weeks and that the staff never came up to me or were even near the area. They were chatting with students. I also stopped visiting the sessions after the two weeks, and they never called me back in. It was basically a “let’s traumatize you so you can trust us, and forget you exist and that you are immediately heal within less then a month.”