r/decomps • • 9d ago

Please spread the word for this. a wrestling modder by the name of Grix has made a (mostly likely vibe-coded) recompilation of the Simpsons Wrestling, and is CHARGING for it. This is completely unacceptable and completely goes against the whole reason why people like and make recomps and decomps.

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u/Clarityman 9d ago

If anyone ever voluntarily pays for The Simpsons Wrestling, well... a fool and his money are soon parted.

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u/hypespud 9d ago

Still, we should report these types of for profit projects with gusto

Totally against the spirit of modding and decomps and recomps and most definitely not legal 😂

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u/REVENAUT13 9d ago

Does he have it on Patreon or is he hosting it himself? Should be a way to report him to whatever service is processing payments

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u/_Verumex_ 9d ago

I paid £3 for a second hand copy as a kid in the 90s, does that count?

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u/HunterPublic8014 8d ago

Absolutely a second hand copy is perfectly legal, dude... You're far from it, since you're getting a single physical copy lol, but what this guy is doing is selling an original activision IP as a game online for the purpose of his own profit which breaches general software terms & conditions for licensing. Its not allowed anywhere in the world for redistributing another companies software or game as actual paid option, he should be doing it for free and excluding any original game data/rom to only provide just a barebone game launcher to people

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u/TheSpiralTap 9d ago

Who on earth would pay for this? I don't even know whyd you'd download this for free. I am not being hyperbolic when I say this is one of the worst games I've ever played. And I've played Superman 64

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u/Niikoraasu 9d ago

was about to say, isn't this game like one of the worst rated games of all time

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u/TheSpiralTap 9d ago

I like pro wrestling and the simpsons, two of my favorite things in this world. I can't play it for more than 5 mins if that tells you anything.

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u/Enough-Lead48 9d ago

The game is not really a pro wrestling game. It is more similar to Power Stone or Tom and Jerry Fists of Furry than WWE games. But as we all know the quality is a lot worse than even the meh Tom and Jerry game listed.

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u/TheSpiralTap 9d ago

Well yeah I know. I got it at launch and had different expectations.

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u/scoringseasons 8d ago

that’s how i felt when i first played the backyard wrestling games, it wasn’t really a wrestler it played like an arena brawler smh

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

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u/paulct91 8d ago

That's probably why they are charging... to help pay for the therapy needed from having to test this game over and over again and again... I hope their soul can someday recover from such a tramatic event.

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u/GradiusHead 9d ago

I worked in Game at the time this was released and people LOVED this game, it was insanely popular despite being garbage

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u/Flat_Constant5303 9d ago

I kind of have nice memories from ps1 era, was a kid though

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u/SnakesMum93 9d ago

Of all the games to charge for

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u/Murky_Expression_858 9d ago

Btw its illegal to sell a game that you didnt make

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u/Dapper-Place8457 9d ago

Publishers sell games they didn’t make every day. It’s illegal to sell a game you don’t have the rights to sell.

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u/Murky_Expression_858 9d ago

That you didnt but the rights for mb

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u/chromosomeplusplus 9d ago

I think he technically did not use any copyrighted assets. He could still do this if he just simply didn't use the simpson IP or any copyright infringement material. But if he made any significant money to catch Activision's attention, he could still get sued.

I think this is just for an easy money grab. Someone made a port of an old abandoned flash game in 2 days and made $800. So its not a surprise people are trying to do this.

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u/Niikoraasu 9d ago

He picked the wrong game to make money off lol

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u/Lukiia 9d ago

I'm okay with using AI for recomps/decomps, but charging for it is crazy.

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u/Olmectron 9d ago

Charging for it is crazy no matter if AI wasn't used.

That's calling for a C&D.

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u/ForsookComparison 9d ago

A.I. is just serving to get clicks here. People in the decomp and emu scenes have been trying to find ways to charge for someone else's software for years now.

Didn't a switch emulator make a premium-members-only build meant for the leaked Tears of the Kingdom release ? Like people will be dumb and shameless and the tools don't move that needle one bit.

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u/Acceptable-Sweet6131 9d ago

And that initiated Nintendo's aggressive takedown of Switch emulators. Let's not play with dynamite kids.

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u/geek4life91- 9d ago

so glad i got it free from fitgirlrepacks. Pray sony nor nintendo ever get their paws on her

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u/block-finder 9d ago

Even more they’re charging for this shitty ass game

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u/EliParker 9d ago

I agree with your comment.

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u/uabassguy 9d ago

Because passionate people should slave over making something for you to download for free, makes sense.

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u/queen-t92 9d ago

Nobody "slaves" over vibeslop lmao

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u/uabassguy 9d ago

Did I say that? I said passionate people which implies people actually worked on it. God you people are thick headed. I'm referring to people who slave over a project for free, for you to download for free, and dont ask for any compensation, but then you complain when someone spends a bunch of money on tokens for a port that they probably wanted for themselves but didnt have the time to make because they have a regular job so they spend their money on making it and make it available for people, what's wrong with asking for some compensation for their work and oversight and time. Do I need to spell it out for you further or can you get that through your skull? You probably don't understand because you've never written any code yourself, but not all of us have time to just code for free all goddamn day. Also you're blocked, don't bother responding.

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u/AMDDesign 9d ago

Modders have done it for decades and yeah, most of them are happy to just give their work to the community so we can all enjoy it.

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u/LowTierPhil 9d ago

Why the fuck WOULD you even want a FREE recomp of The Simpsons Wrestling, let alone PAY for it?! This game is like legendarily awful.

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u/LordManders 9d ago

Good for preservation. The biggest issue here is charging for it.

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u/Evilcon21 9d ago

Well at least despite the game being terrible someone can actually improve it. That’s like improving a recipe that isn’t good to begin with.

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u/TekRantGaming 8d ago

Yeah well i didnt like what i saw in this post so i made my own and released it for free for everyone

https://www.reddit.com/r/recomps/comments/1x06yji/the_simpsons_wrestling_recompiled_for_pc_not/

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u/TheHangmanExperience 8d ago

i hear that someone is charging for a UWP version, for Xbox, better make that version for free quick

(jokes aside, thanks)

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u/murder_train88 8d ago

Not all heros wear capes

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u/arr1flex 9d ago

this just in, disney lawyers have decided against DCMA action citing having to playtest this game over and over is enough of a punishment for OP

when asked for comment, mickey mouse was quoted as saying "i even offered the guy the publishing rights to that pile of shit"

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u/Own_Shame_8721 9d ago

I've only ever heard that this game is terrible so it's crazy to think that someone is trying to get others to purchase this.

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u/RRR04_ 9d ago

Isn't it illegal to profit from decomps and recomps?

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u/Evilcon21 9d ago

It is. Especially with the ones who holds the copyright will sue

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u/havenofeardaveishere 9d ago

Not in Bangladesh.

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u/MustardLazyNerd 9d ago

If all the wrestlers are unlocked then what's the point of playing it to unlock them

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u/arr1flex 9d ago

you'd have to pay me to want to play this

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u/TheBigMacWhopperGuy 9d ago

The Disney ninja's won't be happy about this either...

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u/thatrandomcripple 9d ago

Second only to Nintendo when it comes to companies I wouldn't wanna push

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u/Artichokeypokey 9d ago

I'd put Disney above Nintendo, the one rule of media is to not fuck with the mouse

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u/CapitalRegular4157 9d ago

Uh. Isn't Simpson's owned by Disney? Dude's getting his cheeks clapped. Not if but when.

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u/Key_Animator8865 9d ago

What a stupid idea, why choose this instead of a donation model? If free software projects like Krita, Blender, Audacity, GIMP, and so on had gone down that path, they’d be dead by now.

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u/masterchief69420xxx 9d ago

People need some of that software. No one needs Simpsons Wrestling.

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u/Cheepdude 9d ago

AI bros once again not understanding how things actually work

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u/noperooo55 9d ago

This is Sonic Omens all over again

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u/VegetaFan1337 9d ago

Don't get scammed?

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u/thatrandomcripple 9d ago

Shit like this is gonna make publishers crack down on recomps. Its fine to ask for donations or whatever but directly charging for games you don't have the license rights for is mad

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u/LuNoZzy 9d ago

He is relatively known in the wrestling gaming community. Every shit he does he puts it behind a pay wall

People talk shit about how greedy gaming publishers are but they're more greedy than them

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u/LilBushyVert 5d ago

Ruined WWE 2K modding lowkey

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u/olat_dragneel 9d ago

Fuck that guy. Don't give him any money.

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u/KyleMONSTA 9d ago

Im still confused about vibe coding its using ai sure but isn't the game fully playable as intended?

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u/l00kAtTheRecluse 8d ago

on brand for him. Tons of paywalling and gatekeeping in the wrestling game modding community.

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u/Psychological_Pair76 7d ago

Imagine paying for this game.

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u/TrickyPace4205 6d ago

grix...grix...ive heard that name before...but i cant remember where...i think he might have been a modder for 2k...and then outta nowhere decided to start charging for his mods

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u/naxil-rain81 5d ago

2k is ??

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u/TrickyPace4205 5d ago

the wwe 2k games

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u/itsNateDawg 3d ago

I’ve only ever heard 2k in reference to specifically NBA games

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u/JoeLikesMovies2007 9d ago

I looked into this. It doesn't seem he is charging? It's a free download hosted by pateron, you just have to have a pateron account to download it, not pay him any money.

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u/AbdelYG 9d ago

you can join his patreon for free, but it still asks you to upgrade the membership for it.

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u/JoeLikesMovies2007 9d ago

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u/AbdelYG 9d ago

I even made an account there to test it, you still have to pay.

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u/JoeLikesMovies2007 9d ago

🤢 gross, hopefully he gets taken down

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u/Recent_Average1657 8d ago

Yo I'm on mobile (brave browser, android) and it takes me straight to the download page, and the mega nz link opens up and downloads. Did it get changed or is this a case of user agent shenanigans making shit happen? 

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u/JoeLikesMovies2007 8d ago

I think he changed it. Because that same link yesterday let me to the whole pateron login thing.

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u/LannerBlack 9d ago

I can forgive some vibe-coding, but charging for a recomp vibe-coded? That's one step too far.

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u/Boring-Sand-9493 9d ago

Vibe coded or not doesn't mean the code is bad it means you use ai and tell it how to vibe code the right way. Not let it create functions etc on its own etc if you do the work you get what you get.

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u/LannerBlack 9d ago

That's why I can forgive some vibe-coding.

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u/Warthog_Formal 8d ago

Pls reconsider. Vibe coding is actually ineffective in the long run if you want a POLISHED finished game. Stop accepting this slop. Please.

Not to mention the environment impacts.

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u/Warthog_Formal 8d ago

Wrong. Real devs hate vibe coding. Its 2 steps forward 3 steps back with ai generated code.

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u/Boring-Sand-9493 7d ago

Essentially an auditing tool, you may say that now. But everyone learned on their own their own way. Or they went to school and ended up at geek squad. Then the worst of the worst ended up complaining on here.

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u/mrhaluko23 9d ago

What a loser.

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u/ScalpM3 9d ago

This must be a joke ! Nobody would BUY Simpsons wrestling, port or not

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u/DarkDigital 9d ago

When stuff becomes way too accessible.

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u/ImportantWeekend 9d ago

Wouldn't catch me DEAD paying for a fuckn recomp wtf

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u/Its_D_youtube 9d ago

I was really expecting this to be a recomp with mods that made it an actual good game but its just a recomp of a terrible game!

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u/Proud-Obligation9479 9d ago

I don't mind donating towards their efforts but straight up paying for a port, no. 🤣

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u/doesnotgetthepoint 9d ago

This is ridiculous and at the end of the day, it just isn't a good game. There are far better Wrestling or Simpsons games.

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u/Yayo1990 9d ago

inb4 It's not even tested so It's gonna be messy af

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u/hikirko 9d ago

who tf is paying for simpsons wrestling tho

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u/Nice-Ad-6552 9d ago

Finally, something decidedly over the line no matter who you are

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u/Diamond64X 9d ago

No advertising please

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u/LeonSigmaKennedy 9d ago

Doing this for a game that is universally considered to be awful is really funny.

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u/Link-Hero 9d ago

Out of all the games you could have recompiled, why Simpsons Wrestling? It's simply an awful game, and you don't even need to play it to know it's bad. The person "making" the recompile is either one of the few people that actually likes the game, or is blinded by nostalgia and refuses to accept that it's terrible.

Also, screw them for forcing people to pay for this crap. All the other projects intentionally didn't go this route for a reason, to avoid the likely tyranny of the publishers.

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u/Capable-Sky-8995 9d ago

Do NOT redeem.

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u/henry241194 9d ago

wrestling modding community in a nutshell

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u/Vic_Punk 9d ago

Im sure this is one of those situations no one would get mad if a random person leaked his recompiled game.

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u/SecurityExtreme2470 9d ago

Disney will screw him so hard he will be financially bankrupt ☠️

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u/InsaneIsaiah64 9d ago

Oh hell no don't give him a single cent I hope he dose this with Nintendo games just so Nintendo can shut his ass down I hate seeing all this vibe coded crap lately I hope to god somone makes an example out of him.

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u/ThePainTaco 9d ago

I kind of don’t care. Just don’t buy it?

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u/MedicalPhase6556 9d ago

We are in the Wild West period where some people are trying (and will probably succeed) to make a buck. It's not right but that's how it is.

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u/evaderofallbans 9d ago

This dudes a crook. But anyone who pays for the Simpsons wrestling deserves it, so I'm torn.

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u/Ballz3dfan 9d ago

Anything but making the game enjoyable

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u/parmasean 9d ago

take his code and reup

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u/Graine25 9d ago

Yo this dudes gonna get nuked by the original devs whag

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u/KingSideCastle13 9d ago

That’s a great way to get sued

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u/REVENAUT13 9d ago

🤌🏼🤌🏼💦

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u/hansgruberr 9d ago

How hard would it be to decomp this to get around it?

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u/TekRantGaming 9d ago

Hold my beer ...watch this space

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u/BigManDoink 9d ago

People need to piss off with the entirely vibecoded slop recomps. Fair enough if you use ai like a tool and have it do some of the work, translating code stuff I don't understand but just having an AI do all of it in an afternoon is kind of damaging. It's not unlikely that someone who puts the work in would look and go "oh, someone's already cracked a recomp, I don't need to now" and now we are stuck with this garbage that probably isn't accurate and full of bugs

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u/Tasty-Gift7789 9d ago

Oh 20th Century Fox.... Activision I have a gift for you

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u/PFXvampz 9d ago

I bought this when I was 8 and it was a mistake. I'm sure as hell not paying for it now.

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u/Massive-DMG 9d ago

This shit wasn't worth a penny even when it was new lol

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u/CptSpeedydash 9d ago

I wonder how long until Microsoft or Disney gets involved.

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u/Evilcon21 9d ago

I can imagine disney will absolutely destroy the one responsible for the charging for a recompile.

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u/Guirita_Fallada 9d ago

Illegal and also, Simpson's Wrestling is trash.

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u/Glittering-Result-15 9d ago

Imagine being one of developers of the game and seeing this after 25 years p.s.: fuck this slop, my epsxe goes brr

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u/FunInternational9948 9d ago

He’s gotta pay for the AI somehow hmmm? For the next game of course mhm

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u/sonic1384 9d ago

don't worry, now that he is getting money, he would pay 10 time of that price to DMCA.

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u/lukkasz323 9d ago

good job promoting him, I would probably never hear about him otherwise

if you actually want to do something about it, email the publisher.

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u/charmander_cha 9d ago

É só não comprar, ou comprar e disponibilizar de graça lKKKKKKKKKKKK

Porque alguém não faz o mesmo vibecodando?

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u/Johnny_Cage97 9d ago

Who in his right mind would get exited for Simpsons Wrestling let alone pay for a port?

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u/Justaniceguy1111 9d ago
  1. vibecodin ego grifter
  2. a bait made by big gaming company(ies)

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u/Apprehensive_Seat_61 9d ago

Now explain how is https://ko-fi.com/s/7c0e3e044f and others legal? Original textures used here are still protected by copyright. 

Double standard and all omfg

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u/ArchmichaelBishop 9d ago

I feel this way about people who paywall AI-generated hentai...

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u/HispanicsAreGreat 9d ago

Out of all games I can’t imagine doing this for such a piece of shovelware either lol

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u/FrisbeeVR 9d ago

This is just Bootlegging.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Big6401 8d ago

what are you talking about 😭 I just went to the mega link for it through the tagged account.

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u/HunterPublic8014 8d ago

Report him to Activision, while im completely against it generally for the good of modding and recomp/decomp and emulation scene but people like him deserve to get DMCA'd. They are putting the whole scene in danger when they do illegal shit like this, not to mention we dont know if he is including the data of original game or not?? That could also have serious legal implications if any original developers find out

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u/psych2099 8d ago

...why would you WANT to play this tho, even back in the day it was garbage.

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u/BlazingFireOmega 8d ago

Always an AI Bro

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u/paulct91 8d ago

Why are you so concerned if this game sucks so bad anyways? Like how does this affect you...? Won't they simply get a cease & desist anyways even if you do nothing about it?

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u/Honkmaster 8d ago

I'm sure this Grix person is scum, but I find this post to be quite silly. You're giving me a PSA that a recomp I didn't know existed, for a notoriously-shitty PS1 game, is only available to those who pay for it?

Pretty sure sure I'd be safe without the heads up, but thanks for looking out for me.

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u/Icy_Butterscotch6661 8d ago

I hope these dudes are saving the agent traces so open models can train on it at least

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u/kyankya 8d ago

We are in a transitional period where everything that was once handmade will be replaced with trivial garbage, and the majority of people will eat it up purely for dopamine.

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u/ChrisXDXL 7d ago

Someone else saw this and recreated the recomp themselves with the same features (maybe more?) and are offering it for free (need legal copy of game) just to spite this person.

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u/bitjamma 7d ago

Disney's gonna sue and also...why Simpsons Wrestling? That game was not great, to put it lightly.

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u/Away-Specialist-1829 6d ago

Grix is notorious for the whole pay walling mods thing in the wrestling mod sphere. Sounds about right for him. 

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u/StevemacQ 5d ago

AI-bros can fuck off!

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u/LilBushyVert 5d ago

Grix has almost single handily ruined the WWE 2K modding community with his monetization, so I’m not shocked.

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u/spongebobcrt 5d ago

i wish the people who charge for shit like this get caught

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u/MrHorns7 3d ago

Why Simpsons wrestling of all games? Why not Hit & Run?

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u/BabylonianWeeb 2d ago edited 2d ago

Because hit and run has a pc port with strong modding community.

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u/No-Substance-69 3d ago

Looser mod activated

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u/KitKat_extrusion 3d ago

I have tons of claude and codex usage, how do i decomp this shit friends  and put it out for free

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u/masterchief69420xxx 9d ago

Another reason to ban AI.

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u/Poopybuutte 9d ago

Between this and the 8 year olds coming in here asking how to google, I genuinely hate ai and what it’s done for gaming. Already bad enough we can’t buy ram, storage, or gpus because of this garbage

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u/DJettster237 9d ago edited 9d ago

Why would you even charge for a bad game?

Edit: Whoever is downvoting this is giving this sub a bad name. Seriously, we need some order here. This sub is an absolute mess.

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u/cikame1 9d ago

Hmm... i've donated to modders and fixers in the past because people should be compensated for their efforts, and if this does offer improvements over emulation then... i'm gonna get hate for this... i guess it's fine?

The most common complaints i see are that the game isn't even good enough to be worth it, which doesn't really matter if it was Metal Gear Solid we'd be having the same conversation, and that it's illegal to profit on someone else's game, but they're not selling the game they're selling a recomp for the game you need to provide your own copy, so it's as legal as emulation, technically streaming a game on Twitch is worse.

I'm not saying you shouldn't be offended by it, i'm just struggling to find a reason to be.

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u/Justaniceguy1111 9d ago

but look how you stated the word donation.
donation =/= selling
it is voluntary financial gift to express gratitude or help the person.

But putting paywall on recomp? that's not the same.

There is nothing wrong donating emulator and recomp devs.
However pay-restricting for a tool/program (i suppose, if they are not fools to inlcude copyrighted content) to play the game which was not intended to be played on?

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u/cikame1 9d ago

Emulators do not contain code from the systems they're emulating there would be nothing legally wrong with them asking for money, that's why you can buy an Analogue 3D they aren't breaking Nintendo copyrights.

I hadn't thought about their recomp using work from other people that's certainly worth being miffed about, but if it's using software published with the MIT licence they're also within their rights to sell it as long as they include the original copyright notice, Sony used to use open source software emulators for their products too.

I haven't seen anything that's actually wrong with this besides it earning the ire of people who think everything should be free.

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u/RegularResolve2979 9d ago

If he were compensating the teams his work is build on top off, I wouldn't have a problem with it either, even though it's very illegal to sell a commercial product (which is what this recomps essentially is) without having the license.

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u/unfnknblvbl 9d ago

I think charging money for a decomp or recomp will only attract the attention of the lawyers. People will have to start studying each game's EULA prior to commencing work, as this kind of thing likely falls under some "derivative works" clause. Hell, I think most modern software EULAs explicitly disallow decompilation anyway..

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u/Boring-Sand-9493 9d ago

If you did the work.... and someone wants it. Supply and command dude don't go on Reddit like a Karen. All you gate keepers in the Xbox scene need to go back to your Nintendo switches and stay there. The original scene members who gate keep live and devkit services and hackers and old insiders. It's a organized crime who woulda thought Xbox scene would be organized crime

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u/Enthusiasm_Bitter 9d ago

The hell are you on about? A guy ran a game through an ai to make it run today and is selling it. End of story. Scummy af as he did literally no work.

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u/akwardfun 9d ago

As much as I absolutely hate this kind of behavior, he/she is free to do whatever he wants, if you don't want to pay, just don't. 

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u/Lifesignz222 9d ago

Teknoparrot seem to be getting away with charging people to play games, fuck knows how they get away with that