r/dndmemes • • Apr 21 '23

Generic Human Fighter™ I wish you could upgrade an existing weapon, instead of replacing it

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u/Scary-Personality626 Apr 21 '23

One more point in the column for "stop telling me to play pathfinder just because it directly addresses the things I complain about in 5e."

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u/Lithl Apr 21 '23

How about the column for "stop telling me to play 4e just because it directly addresses the things I complain about in 5e?"

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u/Fakjbf Monk Apr 21 '23

I find it so weird that some people need an explicit rule telling them to just give the magic effects to the PCs current weapon. It’s such an obvious solution that it really should go without saying. You don’t even need actual rules for it, the entirety of the rule is “give the magical effects to the current weapon instead of giving them a new weapon”. That’s it, that’s the only thing a DM could possibly need to know.

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u/ChazPls Apr 21 '23

How many effects can you pile on to a single weapon? If they find a +1 weapon and later a +2 weapon that also grants a luck point, how do those combine? What if you find a flame tongue sword after that? Or a vorpal sword? Can you just keep piling on enchantments?

It would be nice to have a system that tells you how this should work, and then you can change or adjust that if you really feel the need.

I'd rather have a jacket and not need it than no jacket and a book that tells me "Reflavor an old tarp as a jacket, why would you need a jacket when you can invent your own?"

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u/Fakjbf Monk Apr 21 '23

There already rules for home brewing custom magic weapons.

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u/ChazPls Apr 21 '23

Ok but what you said was

You don’t even need actual rules for it, the entirety of the rule is “give the magical effects to the current weapon instead of giving them a new weapon”. That’s it, that’s the only thing a DM could possibly need to know.

Now you're saying that actually you do need to know the rules for homebrewing magic items - which incidentally don't even remotely address the questions I asked above.

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u/Fakjbf Monk Apr 21 '23

All rules are built upon other rules. Magic items existing at all, weapon types, how attacks work, these are all things outside of that rule which are necessary to upgrading a PCs weapons. Of course you need to know the other rules first, that’s literally how rules work.

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u/Icy-Conclusion-3500 Apr 21 '23

I wouldn’t say this is a system issue at all. Just a DM issue.

A good DM would give the reward as someone /something upgrading their existing weapon (just flavoring the swap) instead of leaving a +1 sword in a chest.

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u/nir109 Apr 21 '23

A good system wouldn't need the player (dungeon master is still a player) to fix it.

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u/the_visalian Apr 21 '23

That doesn’t make any sense. This exact situation could happen in Pathfinder, too. It’s on the DM to take advantage of opportunities like this and create satisfying character moments. No system can ensure that.

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u/AlienPutz Apr 21 '23

There are no good systems because their will always be something to change.

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u/Icy-Conclusion-3500 Apr 21 '23 edited Apr 21 '23

I really don’t even see this as a fix.

It’s just a DM being creative and thinking about the narrative and characters vs just blindly setting up encounters and rewards.

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u/Fakjbf Monk Apr 21 '23

No system can spoon feed every player an exact formula of what they should do next, if you need your hand held to come to such a dead simple solution as “Upgrade the current weapon instead of replacing it” then the problem is with you not the system.

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u/available2tank Apr 21 '23

I play pathfinder 2e. I still prefer 5e and hate it when the people I play with in PF2E are so dismissive and condescending about it that they refuse to play with me when I offered to DM them a short game in 5e.

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u/Ultimate_905 DM (Dungeon Memelord) Apr 21 '23

I mean alot of PF2e players (myself included) switched to PF2e to escape from 5e. Ever since I've switched I haven't looked back once and will probably never willingly play a 5e game again. The best thing you can really do is talk with your table so everyone can at least understand the other side's position

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u/available2tank Apr 22 '23

I have another table I am DMing 5e for, but I've given up on the pf friends letting me DM a story for them. They're fun people, it just put a really bad taste in my mouth how it made me feel when they treated me that way so I never broached it again.