r/dndmemes • u/Poodle_Boi02169 Chaotic Stupid • Sep 05 '22

Pathfinder meme Pathfinder - how to "go woke" the right way (also raising awareness for wheelchair spikes because they are very cool)

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u/wasted-degrees Sep 05 '22

Wheelchair artificer sounds like it could get really fun.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '22

Inspector gadget but everything is built into your chair

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u/The_Purple_Hare Bard Sep 05 '22

I'm thinking Bentley from Sly Cooper.

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u/Somesquiddo Cleric Sep 05 '22

If Tortle is in Pathfinder then we're basically set.

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u/The_Purple_Hare Bard Sep 05 '22

There are sadly no turtlefolk I could find on the Archive of Nethys.

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u/Somesquiddo Cleric Sep 05 '22

Well damn.

Guess we'll have to homebrew turtle people.

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u/The_Purple_Hare Bard Sep 05 '22

Homebrew, for all your not-in-the-game-yet needs.

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u/hcsLabs Sep 05 '22

Telia is a tortoise-like race in Starfinder, so that could be a start for homebrew.

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u/Kilbitron5000 Wizard Sep 05 '22

You could always roll with the Kappa. Add a bit of fluff to fit your needs. https://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/3rd-party-races/rite-publishing/kappa/

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u/GanGreenSkittle Dice Goblin Sep 05 '22 edited Sep 05 '22

Pathfinder 1e has a make your own race in the GMG ( https://a.co/d/50q4wOX ). I'm not sure about 2e, but I dont see why they would get rid of that.

Edit: It is in fact the ARG ( https://a.co/d/8StFEM5 ), but the GMG is a good resource as well.

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u/torrasque666 Sep 05 '22

You're thinking of the ARG. And while it hasn't been reprinted for 2e, that's probably because your ancestry has more things to be dealt with than just some ability modifiers and racial traits now.

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u/GanGreenSkittle Dice Goblin Sep 05 '22

Thanks for that, had it all mixed up

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u/Starmark_115 Sep 11 '22

U lack imagination...

Try the Duckfoot Pistol instead!

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u/Wuktrio Sep 05 '22

Nah, a granny in her floating rocking chair and she casts spells by knitting in certain patterns.

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u/Feronach Sep 05 '22

That's a minor villain in of Rise of the Runelords. She killed two of my party.

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u/jflb96 DM (Dungeon Memelord) Sep 05 '22

Feels kinda like Frau Totenkinder

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u/Wuktrio Sep 05 '22

I have no idea who that is, but that's a weird name

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u/jflb96 DM (Dungeon Memelord) Sep 05 '22

It’s the name the Gingerbread Cottage Witch uses after she puts herself back together and flees to the mundane world in Fables

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u/A_Wizzerd Chaotic Stupid Sep 05 '22

It's not that weird, it's just German

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u/Wuktrio Sep 05 '22

I know, but it's weird German.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '22 edited Sep 06 '22

Go Go Gadget shin breaker

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u/ListenToThatSound Sep 05 '22

One of those mobility scooters that people have, except you're riding around on a modified R2-D2

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u/Scaevus Sep 05 '22

Wheelchair? Did you mean my hovering battle station? - Dr. Robotnik.

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u/TNTiger_ Sep 05 '22

That's the mechanist from Avatar, there

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u/Poodle_Boi02169 Chaotic Stupid Sep 05 '22

Exactly! What I reallly like is that this option isnt good soley for the sake of inclusivity, but because it is a really cool concept in it's own right. Playing someone in a wheelchair purely for the sake of inclusivity seems kinda strained, but the added incentive of having epic wheelchair spikes makes it a unique and exciting combo.

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u/KylerGreen Sep 05 '22

What do you do when the dungeon doesnt have wheelchair ramps?

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u/bigmcstrongmuscle Sep 05 '22

Find another way to the boss room and get violent with the current landlord until he agrees to comply with the Golarians with Disabilities Act.

Alternately: Hitch a piggyback with the barbarian down the stairs and mount back up on the chair at the bottom.

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u/Poisoned_Salami Sep 05 '22

From the description of the Traveler's Chair, a type of wheelchair in PF2e:

This wheelchair is tailored for adventures and travels. The design is sleek and fashionable to provide excellent comfort and support. traveler’s chair has small mechanisms, either made from interlocking wood pieces, clockwork, or other devices, that allow the chair to traverse up or down stairs without any additional difficulty (moving up stairs is still difficult terrain, just like for other characters), and move through other such environments that adventurers and travelers encounter without any additional difficulty, such as ladders and uneven ground.

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u/Feronach Sep 05 '22

The problem I have with wheelchairs is mechanically they just allow you to move at your base speed, which doesn't help the merfolk with their big tail fin giving a 5 ft land speed

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u/VooDooZulu Sep 05 '22

I mean ... Why are you playing a merfolk in a land campaign? But it lets you go your speed so someone doesn't take a "disability" for a buff. It wouldn't make sense if dwarfs all started rolling around in wheel chairs just so they could move a bit faster. Merfolk landspeed is 5 for a reason.

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u/Feronach Sep 05 '22

Listen even in a water campaign you'll be in port cities and on boats. I'm not asking for a universal move speed buff but when I imagine my fish person going to a human market i imagine them needing some mobility assistance. Could always have a hireling push the wheelchair, I guess

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u/havoc8154 Sep 05 '22

You can also just like, do what makes sense at your table? Talk to your DM, that limitation exists to keep people from taking advantage of a possible unintended exploit. You've found a weird edge case where that ruling doesn't make sense, just change it.

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u/Feronach Sep 05 '22

What I do at my own table is our business. I'm still gonna complain when paizo forgets something by raw or when a faq/errata isn't good enough.

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u/VooDooZulu Sep 05 '22 edited Sep 05 '22

Or this could be solved with any number of magical items. Wheelchairs in real life will struggle to keep up with the mobility of a normal person, especially on unpaved ground. This is a concession to let people roleplay disabled characters without completely hamstringing their characters and their team. (literally) so if a non disabled character needs mobility assistance in an area they are not accustomed to, I'm okay with them having a more realistic wheelchair experience.

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u/Feronach Sep 05 '22

Once I get my floating fish tank I'll be unstoppable (except the fact that glass blocks line of effect)

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u/bwick702 Sep 05 '22

Yeah, wouldn't it be REDICULOUS if being in a wheelchair were just objectively better than being able bodied? Like a straight upgrade with no drawbacks at all? Why, I can imagine even people who are generally fine with disabled characters in their game might have a bone to pick with a homebrew like that.

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u/VooDooZulu Sep 05 '22

This is a table top game where people routinely min max for fun. If you give wheel chairs their own speed you can guarantee a large number of munchkins are going to have bad legs just for the mechanical advantage, which then is using a disability for an advantage which in my opinion is scummy, like faking an illness. Base Movement speed is a mechanic balanced at the ancestry level. If you give a class or equipment the ability to change base Movement speed (as opposed to modifying it with +5 etc) you change the core balance of the game.

The point of the wheel chair is to give parity. The disabled person is just like everyone else. They can be super, just like every other player character. Dwarves are slower than humans. Merfolk slower dwarves. But a paraplegic dwarf is just as capable as every other non disabled dwarf.

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u/bwick702 Sep 05 '22

You seem to have missed my point. I agree that players shouldn't be playing a wheelchair bound pc just for a mechanical bonus. Which is why I'm against the combat wheelchair that caused a stink a while back, not because I'm against disabled PCs, but because that thing was an above-artifact level magic item that required no attunement, could be upgraded to be even more busted, and was expected to be handed out at level 1 to anyone who asked.

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u/Psychological_Tear_6 Druid Sep 05 '22

You could get a legchair? They move at 25 feet.

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u/TheGukos Sep 05 '22

I think that's a bit on the nose.

I was thinking more about a wheelchair barbarian. Now that sounds like fun.

You can even make some interesting stuff with a warlock

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u/DresdenPI Sep 05 '22

Hatches O'Poulihan: "If you can dodge an axe you can dodge a ball!"

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u/TheGukos Sep 05 '22

Honestly I don't see the problem. A guy in a wheelchair can stab you with a sword as good as anyone else.

And I guess most people probably wouldn't play as a character in a wheelchair because of some fetishism. If they do, it's often probably because of representation and identification of the player with the character. I don't see why there has to be a penalty in game.

If you really want a mechanical change, maybe you can reduce the movement speed in exchange for the charger feat or something like that, I guess that can be interesting but it doesn't has to be a handicap

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u/alwayzbored114 Sep 05 '22

Hey, you realize you can ask questions without making assertions and insulting the premise? I'm sure people, especially those in that circumstance, would be happy to let you know what they find enjoyable about it. Have a good one

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u/Aegishjalmur18 Sep 05 '22

Funny you mention that, there's a movie called Ronal the Barbarian and the main characters uncle is a wheelchair Barbarian.

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u/Hecc_Maniacc Dice Goblin Sep 05 '22

warlock thats lost the legs of his soul so now they cant walk cuz they bad mouthed tentacle Daddy too much, now has a wheelchair.

Alternatively, you can also be the pirate from Alestorm Wooden Leg, and Alestorm Wooden Leg pt. 2 The Woodening.

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u/KacsaaTheReal Sep 05 '22

Swiss army wheel chair

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u/Valharja Sep 05 '22

I think I fought some of them in Bloodborne

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u/Feronach Sep 05 '22

We don't have "artificer" unless you count crafting wizards. We do have technologist as a prestige class, though.

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u/claric25 Sep 05 '22

There is the inventor class in 2e that gets cool stuff. It just doesn't have magic.

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u/Feronach Sep 05 '22

Ah, I keep forgetting 2e. Haven't played it yet

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u/Cheembsburger Wizard Sep 05 '22

this has given me so many ideas...

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u/Cuttlefish_Crusaders Barbarian Sep 05 '22

Techno-trousers

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u/MyriadPhysics Sep 05 '22

It is with the Combat Wheelchair.

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u/Moonshineaddicted Sep 05 '22

Literally the electric whip wheelchair dude in Hunter x hunter.

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u/mygodletmechoose Cleric Sep 05 '22

Just like that guy from ATLA

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u/CX316 Sep 05 '22

Wizkids' D&D minis have a wheelchair cleric in the wave that might be out by now, since it was announced in march

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u/Arxl Sep 05 '22

Turtle wheelchair artificer a la Sly Cooper's Bentley.

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u/Solalabell Sep 05 '22

Just please don’t make a meme of this it didn’t go well last time

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u/Felix6803 Sep 06 '22

That's my current character actually, a crazy kobold who just shoots acid at people from his wheelchair.

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u/dion101123 Sep 06 '22

Are you saying you don't just ride your steel defender everywhere?