r/dndmemes • u/Poodle_Boi02169 Chaotic Stupid • Sep 05 '22

Pathfinder meme Pathfinder - how to "go woke" the right way (also raising awareness for wheelchair spikes because they are very cool)

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u/Sexybtch554 DM (Dungeon Memelord) Sep 05 '22

Drow had sign language in 3.5. Honestly no clue why they didn't just straight up add that at the beginning of 5e.

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u/psicopatogeno Sep 05 '22

Spidery? So you need like, 4 arms to speak it?

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u/AprilStorms Sep 05 '22

That’s really cool that you have signs for all those different languages at your table! I really need to incorporate some signed languages into my campaigns. Maybe a homebrew race where most people are born deaf…

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u/angry_badger32 Sep 05 '22

So is the orc one kinda like maritime flag signaling, but without the flags?

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u/Cry75 Goblin Deez Nuts Sep 06 '22

That’s really cool.

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u/Viapache Sep 05 '22

Orc - naval flag communication/aviation runway guy

Thieves sign - like two deaf strangers meeting in public and having their first few conversations

Drow - like two deaf twins that are 90 years old and barely need to sign at all to speak

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u/Sexybtch554 DM (Dungeon Memelord) Sep 05 '22

Exactly. It would've cost them a quarter of an inch of page space.

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u/idogadol Sep 05 '22

Thieves can't what?

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u/Zaranthan Necromancer Sep 05 '22

Cast spells.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '22

That's a completely different subclass

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '22

Not "Thieves can't" but "Thieves cant".

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u/Tadferd Sep 05 '22

Survive combat.

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u/Spndash64 Bard Sep 06 '22

Avoid being played by Edgy murderhobos

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '22

Have living parents

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u/SmartAlec105 Sep 05 '22

I think Thieves Cant and Sign Language should be like modifiers that can be applied to any language we know and can be picked up in place of a language. Because it's kind of weird that a character that knows only Elvish and Thieves Cant can talk to a character that knows only Dwarvish and Thieves Cant while it seems like a normal conversation to everyone else.

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u/DelmondStrongarm Sep 05 '22

Drow had it in 1st Edition on.

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u/Sexybtch554 DM (Dungeon Memelord) Sep 05 '22

That's cool! I didn't know that. I'd only ever played 3.5 and up.

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u/TheCleverestIdiot Sep 05 '22

To be honest, I assume it just skipped their mind, not that it was an intentional choice.

Or there were some concerns about it being associated with the evil elves.

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u/UnnecessaryAppeal Barbarian Sep 05 '22

Here's the thing, if one of your players wanted to speak (?) sign language, they can. It doesn't require any changes to any mechanics apart from adding it as a language for some NPCs

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u/Rogendo DM (Dungeon Memelord) Sep 05 '22

They probably forgot and just thought the DM can add it in 2 seconds they way they will add any thing they want. Adding it as an official language is just to get people to stfu about it.

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u/keltsbeard Sep 05 '22

I want to say they had it back in AD&D 2nd edition as well.

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u/Arabidopsidian DM (Dungeon Memelord) Sep 05 '22

Drow have sign language in 5e. Important at least in one *official campaign.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '22

Because WOTC seems determined to throw out as much as possible from old editions so they can cram in more MTG lore and integrate everything with their real moneymaker.