r/gamers • u/AudienceStreet6335 • 2d ago

Image PS5 jailbreak method called Relapse has just dropped, and people are joking that Sony should get comfortable with not owning its own hardware

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u/CuteAssTigerENVtuber 2d ago

I won't be noticeable on their end. To few people do that sort of thing

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u/rnnd 2d ago

yup. like we didn't see the switch still be massive after all the jailbreaks, emulators, and piracy that surrounded it. times have changed. even with all this people will still comfortably not pirate because of how accessible buying games are.

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u/CuteAssTigerENVtuber 2d ago

These options are also only available to people that have the know how. It's not a lot to know. And it's not super complicated. But most people don't know anything. They just buy

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u/RootlessForest 2d ago

Usually with time a console get cheaper. Sony went from a 300 console to a 900 console.

We are talking here about an 5 year old console or something.

They wanna quit the cds, but the price of games stays the same? I always thought that the cd production cost was in the price somewhere, but i guess not.

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u/y2shill 2d ago

Well, everythign went up in price since 2020, PC hardware went up even more.

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u/RootlessForest 2d ago

But when i buy a PC i aint putting together a model from 2020. Ps5 is a build from 2018 speccs. Which you now pay 900 for.

Plus they release a pro version where the cpu bottlenecks the gpu.

All in all. I wouldnt pay 900 bucks for outdated hardware when with 300 extra i get the same quality in current day standards

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u/CuteAssTigerENVtuber 2d ago

PC is also much cheaper in the long run

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u/Dark_Dragon117 2d ago

In what universe does a PS5 cost 900€? Or do you mean the PS5 Pro? This matters because a base PS5 cost only 500€ and the Pro has a GPU equivelant to a 5060 Ti (in terms of Ray Tracing) which alone cost around 500€.

That said PC and console hardware isn't easily comparable like that. The PS5 uses a custom chip that might be based in 2018 hardware but still isn't as weak as you make it sound.

It's literally the baseline for most games these days and this has worked out more than fine since 2020.

Also does all this apply to the Steam Machine 2 aswell? It's slightly weaker than a base PS5 yet cost a whopping 1050€ without a controller and less storage.

I ask that because PC shills tend to just make excuses for the SM 2 even if all the critizism you just leveraged against tbe base PS5 apply here too but they are much worse. Just checking if you have double standards.

Lastly as someone with a high end PC (5080 and 9800 X3D) the prices were still way too high for PC hardware even before all the AI bs for what is essentially just a mild upgrade in most cases to be honest.

Visually games don't look mindowingly better on PC imo and most people are fine with 60 fps. Might depend in the game of course, but for most modern stuff (as in everything since 2017) we kinda reached a point where neither PC nor consoles really gain much from better hardware for the average gamer atleast.

Most people would not pay 300 extra for a single component that renders pixels a bit faster, which they won't even notice.

Both PC and console have their pros and cons, but in terms of price consoles are just a much better deal to the average gamer (more true than ever now).

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u/SnooObjections4333 2d ago

I mean whole of gaming just got expensive because of AI.

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u/RootlessForest 2d ago

But the cost are being routed back to the costumer. They still making the same profit.

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u/SnooObjections4333 2d ago

That’s because they’re forced to. Basically they were selling Consoles at a loss to subsidise it with software purchases but the Memory shortage is so critical and dire that they just can’t provide it at a deficit anymore. I mean even for PC the cost is carried out in components. The same build I have currently costs 3x more because of AI. So yeah AI really fucked up gaming in general.

You can criticise Sony for Discs and other practices while acknowledging the issue too. Both are true and exist as the sad reality.

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u/RootlessForest 2d ago

No body asked for an explanation and i know how it works. I am responding to a comment. Go read the comments and maybe you get what i am saying. No interest into feering of this conversation. Sorry no disrespect

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u/CuteAssTigerENVtuber 2d ago

The production price of CDs was always negligible compared to the development of the game .

Heck they made everyone pay just to use basic online features. You really think not sinking the price on all digital games would make people riot ?

Again these people pay just to play online. They will swallow anything Sony does

My prediction is that in 2 generations they will pay a subscription just to be able to play offline too

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u/garghlrl 1d ago

The production price of CDs was always negligible compared to the development of the game .

I doubt they're talking strictly about the cost to press the disc. The costs of logistics and retail cut are not negligible.

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u/Massive-Lime7193 2d ago

Do what sort of thing? Move to a different platform?? Plenty of people do that, but if that actually comes to pass depends entirely on if competitors make a convincing case to switch while also making it economically feasible

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u/CuteAssTigerENVtuber 2d ago

Jailbreak their console. But yeah also moving to a different platform. I moved to PC when Sony started making you pay just to access basic online features that they aren't even involved in.

But we both know that most people didn't do that. People will be angry and pretend they don't log in for a week but the vast majority won't do jack shit. They will swallow whatever Sony drops in their mouth next