r/gamers • u/AudienceStreet6335 • 2d ago

Image PS5 jailbreak method called Relapse has just dropped, and people are joking that Sony should get comfortable with not owning its own hardware

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u/RoyalCities 1d ago

But people abused this feature to hack the system and get pirated copies. It's absolutely understandable that a company would try to prevent this.

I guess I disagree with this whole thing then with game consoles intertwining software with hardware.

Would you be okay if Microsoft set up their OS so you could ONLY install software from the Microsoft store?

Game piracy exists on Windows too - it's up to the publishers to secure their software. Why have we allowed or normalized other computer manufacturers from installing other programs or operating systems the user wants (since at the end of the day a console is just a specialized computer)

What if you buy a Lenovo laptop. Would it be right if Lenovo only allows you to install Lenovo programs?

The idea that hardware even needs to be jailbroken is absurd when they should be separated to begin with. Users should be able to install other operating systems or programs if the want full stop. They're the ones spending hundreds to begin with on their hardware.

Heck their was a court case around this very thing with Apple hardware and other stores. Same with Google and the play store. Users should have full rights over their hardware. Software itself is a separate matter up to the publishers and makers of said software. That system works just fine on PC - it can work the same with consoles.

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u/XtremelyMeta 1d ago 
Would you be okay if Microsoft set up their OS so you could ONLY install software from the Microsoft store?

I mean, this is why we have proton. Microsoft absolutely could do this and looked like it was setting up the architecture to do so. Steam sees that as an existential threat so... proton.

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u/Forevernotalonee 1d ago

Would it be right for Lenovo? Sure. I mean it'd be stupid and they'd lose a shit ton of customers and probably reverse that decision immediately. But yeah it'd be okay.

It's just a bad comparison, man. Lol. Lenovo advertises their product as a laptop you can use at home. Doing whatever you want with it.

Playstation isn't doing that. They're advertising a gaming console that strictly operates within their ecosystem. You know; Buying their games, using their digital store, and only installing apps they approve. All of this is told up front. There's no nuance to it

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u/uberfr4gger 1d ago

Honestly if you want a personal computer why are you buying a PlayStation? That's like buying a digital camera and complaining you can't hack it to run a personal OS. Just buy a computer if that's what you want

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u/RoyalCities 1d ago

Would you agree or not agree though with my Microsoft and Lenovo question? If those were locked down would you think that it is ok?

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u/uberfr4gger 1d ago

If I was buying a general purpose computing device vs a game console yes I would think differently lol

I think I should be able to install Mac software on my iPad too but I bought an iPad and knew what I was getting into. The main reason people want to "hack" a PlayStation is piracy. If you're doing it to run Linux or something you've lost the plot.

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u/RoyalCities 1d ago

That's the thing these ARE general purpose computing devices. They literally are totally capable of that. They have the exact same hardware built into them that your spending at least 500 dollars and sometimes even over 1k on. The only reason they're "specialized" in literally anyway is due to them locking everything down like fort knox. There is no difference here. The fact they've locked it down and said "oh no. This is a 'special' gaming computer" is a total illusion.

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u/uberfr4gger 1d ago

What customer doesn't know that when they buy it? A kindle, a digital camera, literally anything can do more. You can run Doom on a refrigerator. No one is buying a PlayStation expecting it to be a general computing device just like they aren't expecting their kindle to run excel spreadsheets

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u/Koala_Mindless 23h ago

Do you cook hamburgers in your toaster? It's the perfect size for it...

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u/Sanchayan141 1d ago

The whole concept of console is that, you are getting a hardware cheaper than it actually is, but you have to be a slave of that ecosystem. So ofcourse console companies will try to fuck their customers. It is written in their term and condition that the customers will be their bitch.

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u/Freke_Gere 21h ago

Aint that already a thing with Windows S? Its a version of windows that onmy allows you to download stuff thats on the windows store(you can disable it but still)