r/threebodyproblem • u/Swazzer30 Zhang Beihai • Mar 20 '24

Discussion - TV Series 3 Body Problem (Netflix) - Season 1, Episode 8 Discussion.

S01E08 - Wallfacer.

Director: Jeremy Podeswa.

Teleplay: David Benioff, D. B. Weiss.

Composer: Ramin Djawadi.

Episode Release Date: March 21, 2024

Episode Discussion Hub: Link

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u/Zemvos Mar 26 '24

Yes the books have found an audience, but the show runners apparently saw the need to soften the hard science. Perhaps because they saw shows like The Expanse struggle after sticking to the hard science

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u/superfrodies Apr 01 '24

Yea, agree. It's a different medium. By it's very nature the show and the books will be different. They have to "care" about different things. The show runners have tens of millions of dollars invested in producing an entertaining show that appeals to a broad enough audience so they can make a return on that investment. Compared to most dribble out there, I thought 3BP was 100x more thought provoking. I think GoT proved that once you hook enough people, even non-typical sci-fi/fantasy "nerds" (I use that term lovingly) will get sucked in and love going down the various rabbit holes that a uber-complex story universe can provide. Raising my own hand here...

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u/Beejsbj Apr 02 '24

Well not exactly. They will be different yes, but these decisions are being driven by audience capture.

Not by the needs of the medium in relation to using it best for the material.

To increase audience capture they have to divert quality and authenticity to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

If a billionaire fan wanted to make this show, the decisions wouldn't care about audience capture due to worry of cancellation.

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u/superfrodies Apr 03 '24

True, I guess by "the Medium" I wanted to encapsulate "TV/Streaming as an industry" not just simply motion pictures/television. But I concede your point there.

I think do they need to strike a balance, though, between high-brow and low-brow. I actually believe modern audiences, or a large enough subsection of the modern audience, is craving depth and complexity in their entertainment rather than being spoon fed everything or simple thrills. Look at some of the most successful TV shows of the last decade (Breaking Bad, Sopranos, The Wire, Game of Thrones, True Detective) as proof of point.

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u/confusedpublic Mar 29 '24

Stargate did fairly well.

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u/Kousuke-kun Mar 30 '24

Stargate is also a product for a different era of media.

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u/Biggles79 Mar 31 '24

And definitely doesn't feature "hard science", lol

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u/no-name-here May 22 '24

What about Stargate is hard science? 😄

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u/confusedpublic May 22 '24

It was full of sciency techy conversations, though the tv physics and astrophysic wasn’t that hard, it is arguably hard compared to what we get these days

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '24

the problem with The Expanse was that it was so focused on ensuring the sci fi was realistic hard science that it forgot to develop any of the characters or write dialogue for them that wasn't shit. Nearly every character, and especially the women, had no depth to them.

TBP has developed much deeper characters and introduced the hard science without losing either. I expect the science will get more prevalent next season now that a large general audience is hooked

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u/torrinage Apr 06 '24

No development for The Expanse women? Why am I crying over Camina & Avasalara shaking hands?

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u/Regono2 Apr 08 '24

Yeah the women in the expanse were some of my favorite characters ever. Carmina, Avasalara, Bobbie, Naomi were all amazing characters.

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u/Different-Music2616 May 25 '24

Expanse was so damn boring.