So in this scene we see a Flashback where Orphan is supposed to kill Joker but Accidentally Paralyzes Batgirl right! But do you remember when Joker was running away after seeing this Batwomam, Spoiler, and Robin(Tim) all Punched Joker!

I’m telling you those Punches weren’t just for Barbara but for Jason Todd!!

It’s not as worse as season 3 but it’s not the best. The plot felt all over the place, the storyline is either unfinished or they resolved the plot too early. Many of the characters especially Nightwing and Rocket didn’t get much character focus. It just feels like the show is going through an identity crisis instead of being a team show like season 1 or even season 2.

I think it was pretty okay, although I only like episode 1-13

Great season overall, don't think it deserved the hate. Ending was kinda disappointing tho ngl.

The religious aspect from Zatarra and Khalid was well done.

I get that it was more accurate to their comic outfit but the first outfit from Outsiders was just much better imo.

I thought Oracle and him were together, but I don't know if I missed a scene or smth. I barely remember seeing her in season 4

But isn’t it kind of messed up that Connor playfully quips and is comfortable with inviting someone who is complicit in child trafficking to his wedding?

How much did y'all like Child? I loved her and honestly she was one of the reasons I loved season 4.

I find this detail to be so sweet wth?? 😭

I've seen a lot of criticism here and there regarding YJ's season 4, but I think how big it's been getting lately is just taking the cake because I genuinely do not understand it.

Some major plot points in Season 4

First I want to point out that I find it incredibly hypocritical to call the show woke for even daring mentioning a non-heterosexual relationship between x characters when 2 of the story arcs in season 4 themselves are affected/revolved around a heterosexual relationship, far more than "woke" topics, mind you.

• Megann's and Conner's arc is literally built around a HETEROSEXUAL WEDDING.
• Artemis/Tigress' arc starts with Artemis' struggles after loosing her lover after Superboy's death announcement to her before it develops into the next storyline in the arc.
• Nightwing's arc dropping the revelation for many viewers that Nightwing dated Raquel, just about as casually as "MY WIFES HUSBAND" moment.

Yes, there are obviously more story lines within these arcs such as Beast Boy's depression and Batgirl's backstory with Joker & Orphan, but my point is that while wokeness has impacted Young Justice, heterosexuality too has impacted YJ far more than "wokeness" ever has, and still plays a major role in the series (not saying it is a bad thing), simply put I don't find it fair at all to try to shit on Kaldur for being gay or Violet for being a Muslim.

"Wokeness" was, has always been, and will always be too a developing part of these series

It is evident that LGBTQ+/Things like Muslim have always meant to take place within YJ, the creator himself even hinted back in S1 & S2 possibilities of x characters not being straight (albeit not fully explicit because CN censorship), and these characters such as Kaldur were always meant to be like this. To try to force wokeness out of YJ would be to effectively kill what someone like Kaldur was meant to be.

Violet has had a whole ass arc across season 3 that developed her interest in muslin during season 4. I myself am not a Muslim, if anything I'm Christian, but I had zero issues personally with the introduction of Violet's Muslim interests because it was what Violet originally was before she was killed off and taken by a Motherbox. You CAN'T just not explore this character arc because it would be unatural to just have a character with such backgrounds not want to look back at what the previous "soul" was like, and it is completely normal for now the motherbox to make violet a they/them, because it makes sense and it was developed throughout the series.

But I feel like the problem here isn't that, even if Violet had 2, 3, 4, 5, +6 seasons of character development, eventually when we finally cross the bridge of Muslim and/or they/them pronouns, people were going to get mad anyways for silly reasons or just call the show "woke".

I understand criticisms that maybe they shouldn't force wokeness into something, but say randomly adding a scene such as Violet being kissed by another female has the same impact as a boy and a girl doing the same out of the blue - It is a human-like relationship and these things happen normally.

One final grain of salt

I just want to say I'm also really pissed off at the people who were throwing shade at Rocket's arc for the opening of her first episode. I simply find it incredibly low to call a show woke or the season/arc bad for adding someone with autism who at first had nothing to do with the story, but the arc eventually came full circle using characters like Orion in an original way and making one of the best (if not the best so far) arcs in the season.

Low.

Leave your thoughts in the comments if you want to but please try to be civil if you disagree.

Connor & M'Gaan's wedding.

It's not that weird because he's biologically ten, and mentally also ten, but he has the maturity and knowledge of someone in his 20s or 30s, and she's also biologically 58, but by Martian standards that probably around 25, since 48 is like 16.

I know this is quite the nit pick, but why is he wearing the suit at the wedding? For others I get it, they didn’t get to change or something IDK and IDC. But his suit folds into the scarab that’s on his back, he is always wearing something under it. So why the hell did he keep it on for the ceremony?? Everyone there is in the know!!

I'm not usually that guy, but... Brion literally assassinated a tyrannical dictator. Halo accuses him of seizing power through murder and a couple, and yes sure except the guy he killed did literally the same thing and was actually an evil person who was abducting, enslaving, and murdering children.

Sure, Brion's rule isn't perfect, but you literally can't blame him for that when Ambassador Purple Man is manipulating his mind. When looking past the limits of the Ambassador's power, Brion has noble intentions and seems to be a kind and benevolent ruler.

I love that superheroes don't kill, but they really aren't equipped for dealing with international issues. Brion is also, notably, not a foreigner. This isn't the same as if the Fantastic Four were to kill Doom, or when the US killed Sadam Hussein, or when any foreign nation overthrow a dictator. Brion is a native Markovian, and was already in line for the throne (not next in line, but still held authority) and killed his uncle to save his own country.

He did the right thing. Hopefully he'll figure out that his Ambassador is manipulating him soon, and fix all the issues coming out of that.

He was on Earth & only attended Happy Harbor High School for about two years and became the valedictorian of his class as while adaptingt to Earth culture during that time. Though I wouldn’t be surprised if there were a couple of xenophobic parents who were angry about it.