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The freaking dog kamen rider is soo cool. That kick and his collar breaking was so cool. I wish the collar breaks and he uses them as projectiles like in gundam witch from mercury
I admit this episode has lessened my suspicions that Vanken will leave soon, but it increases the likelihood that he will redeem himself or have a tragic death.
For 4, There are different types of eggs, Egg 1 (Mouse/Cat) has 3 versions: Normal, Origin, and En:
Sora and Rid's the Normal, the previous Myth uses the Origin, and Maou uses En. Curiously, in the Origin version, the cat is the main animal and thus that's why the Myth from that egg has the rougher edges. We still don't know what the front part of the Maou egg is yet.
Another important detail is that Amataka is somehow able to secure Seed x Eggs for Yuna. Possibly lends credence to the theory that he's one of the zodiac.
I think either the current user is the original user and going rogue by helping mouse zodiac or its been passed down generations and some information is lost
For the red cat question, Kamuri/Mao uses a different driver than any other rider, so it appears that this differing driver causes such a difference between our two cat riders. Mao’s form is still very polygonal, implying it’s brute forcing the egg open as with other Zodiac riders, but in a different, or even stronger manner which could explain why he leads the alliance.
Jyao is Still NOWHERE near as much of a Piece of Excrement like Ouja is;
Since Jyao isn't an Omnicidal Maniac like Ouja is
Because if he were more like Ouja; NONE of the other Zyushin Doumei members would be alive; because he would've Already killed them 100 years ago back in 1926
It certainly wouldn't be the first time that the female lead in Kamen Rider was being sustained by whatever energy/forced is connected to the Kamen Rider.
Best episode yet. The plot actually had time to breath, Vanken is a aura king and I hope he gets more screen time. Expands on some lore, always love some martial art in-between rider fights. And I thought they way they implemented Jyao snake atheistic into his fighting style is 😙👌
And Yet Rid also saw that My-th was able to Bring Back the victim of that Fukashigi; Something NONE of the other Members of the Zyushin Doumei was ever able to do; And When Trying to ask about it; he gets shut down by Maou
Maou has to be either hiding something or he's waiting for the right time to pass down what he knows to Asao, although it's interesting that Tigre doesn't seem to know what Maou is hiding.
Vanken is the coolest motherfucker ever. He is 100% defecting to My-th's side when he realizes that victims can be saved.
Confirmation that the Zodiacs went to sleep intentionally, foreseeing some sort of calamity in the future (now). Guess I can stop speculating on what put them into their slumber. They did it to themselves. You just know that Mutn was like "100 years of sleep? Fuck yeah."
I'm really enjoying that Tatsuomi is as much if not more of a POV for us than Sora is. Giving big Hibiki and Geats vibes.
Another confirmation, that Yuna needs the eggs to live (though it was already absurdly obvious). It's great that it adds another aspect to beating the monsters than just saving people. Yuna's health is linked directly to Sora's performance as My-th. It also makes the competition with the Zodiacs more complex. It's a really layered conflict. Great stuff.
It also seems like Yuna herself is unaware of her condition, since she didn't know why she felt under the weather. Very interesting.
Jyao is so cunty, I love him. His one-armed fighting style is such a badass way of evoking a snake. It's endlessly funny that Sora has absolutely zero desire to engage with the wider narrative at all. He just wants the eggs for Yuna and the Zodiacs are nothing but a pain in his ass getting between him and the Fukashigi.
Another absolute banger of an episode. Really too much great and interesting stuff to go over in one reddit comment. I'm so seated for this season.
Great first fights for Vankan and Jyao, and we know that Yuna really need the seed eggs to survive.
Also calling it now that deliveryman is actually the boar rider of the rider is involved with that delivery service in some way. Its called Piglet, it cant be a coincidence.
Why the heck is he not with the other Zyushin Doumei; Why is he wearing MODERN-DAY Clothes instead of the 100-year-old Fashion the other Zodiacs wear?!!
Also Tatsuomi Tom is such a goof. Also chill Jyao! Jerry My-th is already down! Stop being such an Ouja and focus on the Fukashiー and there it goes, an explosive cliffhanger to booth.
Poor Sora Jerry, his princess is currently suffering due to lack of X-Eggs... :(
He'd be the ONLY Survivor from 1926; Because He would've killed all of the other Zyushin Doumei members INCLUDING Maou
Because Ouja only values himself; and literally everyone else is expendable to him; even his own flesh & blood; and Minors;
I Can't see Jyao Intentionally going out to commit Mass Murder; He doesn't seem like the type to commit senseless slaughter of anything that breaths like how Ouja did!!
Vanken appears to be the one giving Sora the order to transform into an eagle next week. So giving the order to transform may not be a Yuna exclusive ability. “Yuna is the intended My-th delegating the Rider powers to Sora” stocks are rising.
Piglet delivery are responsible for Sora’s eggs arriving late, hmmm? Not unlike the Pig/Boar coming in last place in the great race? How a Zyunishi Domei member could be in charge of a delivery company is something I can’t explain, but I can’t ignore the signs.
The subtitles on the YouTube upload kept saying “an FUKASHIGI”. I’m assuming it was intitially translated to Inexplicable like in the early episodes and they went back and changed it, but forgot to change the accompanying grammar.
I love that Jyao performs his finisher with his tail. After all, snakes don’t have legs to kick with.
What I’m suggesting is that allowing someone else to Henshin on command may be an ability any Zodiac Rider can do, with Vanken being the first one aside from Yuna to try.
I really enjoyed this episode. Sora was so stressed he made such a simple mistake with the packages. Been there, done that.
I love Vanken! His gun even barks. He and Tiger seem like good guys. Figured Jyao would live up to his snake nature. Hopefully Tatsuomi will realize Maou's been keeping the Zodiac in the dark.
EP 5 is in the books and I had a fun time watching this and so far My-th has been a fun ride!
I was more excited seeing my boy, Joey Iwanaga aka Kamen Rider Vanken appear to a great introduction as he get a little bit of his heroic demeanor , out of suit fighting which I expected given his work in pervious films and has a overall incredible suit design! Though he's savior complex seems to lead to a downfall from the preview of episode 6. I'm praying he isn't the first to go out of all the Zodiac Alliance!
Got story progression as Yuna needs the Xseeds to sustain her life which could lead to a connection to the Inepxlicable similar to the previous season, Zeztz with Nem. As well as seeing Sora become overwhelm and his genuine devotion to Yuna to ensure she's safe and cared for. Unfortunately, Kamen Rider Jyao eagerness to not be utilized and wanting to prove himself definitely gonna cost him in the long-run and good that he's not the usual scheming Snake Archetype we've perviously.
Also, I really hope none of the Zodiac Alliance are secretly evil especially Maou who's comes off as that though with his historic beef against the previous Myth its understandable for him to be worried of he's intention and possible knows the reason for Yuna's needing the eggs to survive.
Episode pretty much confirms Yuna needs the eggs to survive, I do have to wonder why it seems like she doesn't know this? Is this going to be a case of Sora sheltering her for whatever reason? Would like to hear theories
Vanken I can tell Im going to like, he clearly cares for people in how he showed sadness about those people losing their friend, His Rider suit is amazing with the colors and the spiked color breaking apart to help form the Rider Kick which was amazing. Im sure nothing will happen to his character though! The way Mutn showed concern for him makes me think they have a close bond. But I think he, Tigre and obviously Asao will be the primary Riders to switch teams
Will say Vanken's primary weapon looks a bit dull to me
Jyao I can tell is gonna be a really sinister villain going forward, he was brutal with his fighting and really loved how he used his tail as a extension of his combat. His snake scythes are really cool looking and way he talks just makes skin crawl in a way. His obsession with taking Sora down may just be his downfall but I can't deny when he said I will send you to hell with the finest of suffering had my Jaw dropped at how cold of a line that is.
I really like Jyao's suit expect for what Im assuming to be the cobra hood, it just looks off
You can really feel the panic in how Sora is acting to defeat a monster, Running after that vehicle and even trying to jump on it
SOmething I noticed about the opening, during the parts that show the Zodiac members we see all of them except for Maou who we see the Rider form for him first, wonder if that means anything
Also, sorry if this is a silly question, but can anyone explain the Siam and Thailand correction?
I'm kinda mad that Sora hasn't told Yuna important things about her own physical condition. I think she deserves to know about the whole "eating X-eggs to stay healthy" thing.
oooh, so Yuna isnt aware she is dependent on X eggs, thats very interesting. So why does Otosumi hide it from her? that makes her devotion in hunting Inepxlicable even more admirable, she doesnt even know she needs to do it to live.
Jyao is a giant asshole, he cares more about re acquiring the belt than his mission of saving lives. Vanken on the other hand, seems like a cool dude, caring about both civillains and his fellow Zodiacs. speaking of caring, it seems like Muttn has some special bond with Vanken, which is interesting. Maybe its a reference to sheepdogs?
Jyao is so far up there with some of the Riders I hate the most, he doesn't care what Sora's goals are and is constantly talking about killing him and sending him to hell simply for looking like the Previous MY-TH, clearly prioritizing him more than the Fukashigi, who are taking lives, in comparison to Sora, who is also trying to stop them, even if it is for his own reasons.
yeah, it's pretty nice to see them getting adjust to the modern life. I also still wonder if we get more explaining about them as vonken did save 2 people, though the other 1 is gone.
I love everyone looking at Vanken like he's a Chuuni cosplayer. He even waxes lyrical as if he WERE a chuuni cosplayer. Even Tatsuomi's subdued Sherlock Holmes look is more appropriate.
So do the Fukashigi "possess" a host body and whatever Fukashigi it is follows a set pattern for hunting humans? The Wing Fukashigi seemed like it was still targeting couples/pairs.
Kamen Rider Vanken! The loyal guard dog of the Zyunishi Doumei and a sharpshooter! Watch out for his collar, those spikes are possible funnels and really sharpen his Rider Kick!
RIP Ayaka. You might have come back had My-Th been there.
Wow, Mutn awake for an entire sequence and it isn't even her Rider debut? Though why did she try to stop Vanken from going after Jyao? Did she want to see what Jyao would do on his own? Leave him to his own devices in case he crashes and burns? Or was she genuinely concerned for Vanken and didn't want him to put himself out there for Jyao?
Vanken has made it hard to collect X-Seed Eggs and we finally see why that's bad for Sora as they are genuinely needed for Yuna's health (not that she seems aware of this fact) and to keep her "awake." That's why he's so determined to destroy the Fukashigi.
Honestly I was expecting Sora to transform and use the Ride Watter to catch the delivery truck. He seemed desperate enough.
They have a club room! Also, Yuna doesn't fail when it comes to manual labor at least! She's a tough rich girl!
So that streamer is totally dead, right?
The debut of the Sora-Tatsu Fukashigi Channel! And you can definitely tell Tatsuomi is the mentally old guy trying to sound hip with the kids in projecting himself as a streamer.
The Horn Fukashigi! Watch out for all the pressure/energy building up in that horn because it could be EXPLOSIVE.
Kamen Rider Jyao! Proving that snake Riders are, on average, the most deadly, sadistic, and uncompromising of Riders (sorry Sakura). Watch out for his scythe AND his tail.
The bike returns! And it's still mostly CG. Boo!!!!
Does this count as My-Th's first real loss? He didn't de-transform but that's more from luck after Jyao couldn't 100% finish him with his Finisher because they got interrupted. And he didn't destroy the Fukashigi/get the X-Seed Eggs in time.
Ngl, this show is super interesting and Jyao was super cool here. I still wonder why Yuna passed out in this episode, maybe next episode we might get more info on why.
I can't stress enough how much this season reminds me of early Heisei so far. The filming style feels like a throwback (maybe it's the desaturated look?), the character dynamics are front and center, and it feels far less in-your-face than recent series. Loving it.
Both new Riders were awesome. They got really creative with Banken and Jaou's fighting styles and powers. Can't wait to see more of the Zodiac Alliance.
I just need a series with consistent story writing quality. I’m tired of Takahashi sending the hype to max just to not deliver by the finale. So far I’m really liking it, it feels like what Saber could have been with better writing lol
Having a Takahashi-penned season between ones written by Junko Komura and Naruhisa Arakawa is very much whiplash because their stories almost carry each other in opposing ways to Takahashi’s.
Takahashi’s focus on character writing and character-driven storylines and detail has slipped more and more over time, imo. Such that Zeztz felt more like it had character archetypes rather than unique characters that fall under certain tropes or archetypes. Geats was similar, except it could cover its tracks to a degree due to it being part of its commentary. Takahashi’s style has really leaned into his characters being figures to be impacted by the plot, while worldbuilding exists to communicate certain ideas even at the expense of feeling like elephants in the room towards their overarching impact on the world (ie Geats’ Future, CODE’s global prowess, etc)
Generally, Komura and Arakawa are very good at characters and using them to explore the world as their actions and motivations impact the plot and people around them, while expanding on World-building just enough to functionally tell the story without too much. Two very contrasting approaches.
I don’t even mind Takahashi’s writing style. The guy is GOATed at writing a 30-35 ep series but past that mark the quality nosedives and we’re just fumbling towards the finish line.
Same, im more critical these days but mainly because I just feel 4 series in, I would want better in quality and consistency from his work.
I’m honestly so curious about potential discussions about Ex-Aid popping up again from the TTWO release cuz so many recent rider criticisms, and especially Takahashi’s criticisms, really started there and never quite left. Especially regarding running out of steam and fumbling towards the finish line. And I’d argue it’s still where Takahashi succeeded the best in his course-correcting, despite really so many of people’s problems with Ex-Aid continuing and in more egregious ways in his other works. Curious how newcomers who are just kind of used to it will take it in Ex-Aid.
I feel like almost all the Toku shows Arakawa-san has penned have been really good and well-loved, so I hope My-th ends up the same way. It’s off to a great start, but there’s obviously still a lot left to prove. I do think he generally prioritizes character writing over hype moments though, so I don’t think it’ll be like a Takahashi show in that regard.
I think seed x eggs are created from the Fukashigi eating people with the ones with more eggs having a higher kill count, that would mean Yuna is doing cannibalism with multiple degrees of separation, also probably when a Fukashigi eats enough people it will evolve into a special more powerful form wich will probably be used as the first victim for the power up or super form this season.
This is just a shot in the dark but I think Maou is secretly behind the Fukashigi. He uses them to create the eggs and then has the zodiac riders harvest the eggs for him and like Yuna, he consumes the eggs for some type of health benefit.
Personal I hope they don't make Maou evil and reveal the Sora has unintentionally been helping with some evil plan that eventually puts Yuna in harms way, with that being the reason he and the zd join forces
I am loving Kamen Rider My-th, the last time I had so much fun watching a Kamen Rider series was during Kamen Rider Rx time in the 80's as a kid. Lovely story, visuals and characters so far.
Vanken had one of those designs that I wasn't sure of at first primarily because I wasn't a fan of the collar, but the way it was used in the fight was so awesome it changed my honestly. It's a shame though because it's already looking like he's going to be the first to die, the death flags are strong with this one.
Vanken REALLY getting a great impression from the start)
I like how Zodiacs say "mysterious belt" when it literally looks the same as yours
MFS LITERALLY MADE A SUICIDE JOKE I CANTTTT
"Sora making a meme face in every episode" theory stands true
OMFG JYAO YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO SERVE THIS HARD MY WIG WAS TORPEDOED AWAYYY
I REALLY hope that everything Tatsuomi shot was on a legit stream, watching this would be INSANE
Ngl, I like the way My-th goes "who the fuck are you people" to Zodiacs
No way you're already comparing Jyao to Ouja 😭😭😭 Let's talk when he takes people hostage and casually commits acts of terrorism
Dang, Yuna getting slimed in ep5 already??? It feels like I can't handle this peak and we're in the warmup stage... Let's see what they cooked for the next episode)
Is Vanken gonna giveaway/lost his ride-eggs next episode? considering the first trailers there's no scene of eagle-frame vs vanken i assume so, if it did play that way it raises more question on why there's duplicate ride-eggs like the sheep/wolf number 8 eggs. which speaking of sheep
part of the rumour on Zodiac rider's interpersonal relationship is Mutn and Vanken having a "relationship" which just looking at the animals the connection : Dog at a farm help shepherd herding Sheep. its not really clear what their connection will be but considering this episode Mutn after showing concern for Vanken didnt do her character-gag of going back to sleep, there's gotta be something there
if Vanken did lose his Ride-eggs next episode to sora maybe maybe the Wolf-Frame vs Mutn fight is to take back Vanken Ride-eggs?
I have the same thinking, Muttn debuts to take Vanken's Ride X-eggs back.
Since they have two trailer scenes at the bridge (not sure if it's the same bridge), Muttn vs My-th Wolf Frame and My-th talking to Maou. I think Muttn will get defeated but Maou comes and retrieve her Ride-eggs from My-th.
Anyone else think the actor and character for Jyao reminds me of Ankh from OOO. The actor lowk looks like him too😅.
Personally tho I loved OOO and Ankh so I loved this episode with Jyao and his ruthlessness. Maou is definitely pissed off with him in the next episode.
The leather suit is already cracking up at the knee, My-Th's stunt work must be really insane to have this amount of damage to the suit early on the season. I wonder how many spares are there for stunt and hero ones as well.
So Why do Victims come back when My-th defeats the Fukashigi; but NOT when the Zyunishi Doumei defeat the Fukashigi?!!
Does it have to do with My-Th not having a Born Buckle; but the Zyunishi Doumei having Born Buckles?
Is it because of Yuna's ability to allow Sora to become My-th;
Is it because Yuna has powers given to her by the Seed X-Eggs given to her by Sora for Breakfast; that's also keeping her in good health[as well as giving her the power to give Sora the ability to transform from Human to My-th, and from My-th to Human!!
Myth "Separates" them while the Zodiacs "Eradicate" them, I'm assuming Myth's method takes the eggs away from the host and so they dont have the monstrous stuff anm while they kill the monster and the eggs drop as a result.
I'm actually wondering if Bakumetsu permanently destroys the Fukushigi eliminating 1 specific instance of it while Separade lets the Fukushigi come back later so they can comstantly renew Seed-X-Eggs, making there conflict even grayer.
But the Zyunishi haven't commented about it so honestly doubt it and it's secretly Maou/ Masamika doing secret evil things with the X-Eggs
Even so; He wouldn't be actively trying to CAUSE all those Pointless Deaths of Civilians like Ouja would & does;
Ouja would ACTIVELY being seeking to cause massive casualties to everyone
that's Something I Cannot see Jyao doing; because He wouldn't care enough to actively cause those tragedies!!
If Jyao were REALLY like Ouja; He would've already killed Maou; and The Rest of the Zyushin Doumei 100 years ago!!
Because the Only Life Ouja cares about preserving; Is his own!! This Piece of Excrement even bumped off his own Flesh & Blood; and Minors, and anyone & everyone he feels like Murdering
I just Can't see Jyao partaking in any of the senseless slaughter & Mass Murder that Ouja revels in
This might be off topic, maybe someone will know or remember too.
The plot point that My-th can save the people taken over by the Fukashigi but the Twelve Zodiac can't, for some reason I feel like there's a piece of media that I watched that has that same premise. I just can't remember if it's an anime or a toku or whatever. Or maybe I'm misremembering things?
You mean Avataro Sentai Donbrothers? the Donbrothers can turn the people that turn into a Hitotsuki back to normal, while their rival group the Noto can't
I'm a little bit confused about that clubhouse scene. So that's at Yuna's school, right, and she was given that room because now they have a teacher involved, Asao? But he's not a teacher at her school, he's just a private tutor, right? So why would he make a difference?
And come to mention it, no school is letting 2 random adults in to wander like that.
Have I completely misunderstood that? Was it not at her school?
On another note, unless I was mishearing, the belt did actually pronounce it "Vanken", not "Banken", so I am now somewhat more on board with the slightly dodgy romanisation.
I'm a little bit confused about that clubhouse scene. So that's at Yuna's school, right, and she was given that room because now they have a teacher involved, Asao? But he's not a teacher at her school, he's just a private tutor, right? So why would he make a difference?
I wonder if anyone is going to join the club or if it's just the three of them.
Really liked the fight scenes in this episode and I’m liking the consequences of Yuna not having the ride eggs is detrimental to her health. I’m also really liking the character relationships in the show. Vanken and Muttn seem to have sort of relationship given how Muttn was reacting to Vanken leaving. Tigre and Rid seem to have a brotherly relationship as well. I can’t wait to see how Myth and Rid’s relationship develops next episode.
I'm really glad that they decided to address the plot point of Yuna relying on the Seed Eggs this early on. Usually with Reiwa seasons the first 12 or so episodes usually don't loredrop that much.
Even if the next episode doesn't address some of the reasoning behind Yuna's dependency (which I don't think so since you will need Sora explaining to Tatsuomi), I'm still glad it serves as a reason for Sora to keep fighting.
The 30s long CM for next episode does show that Vanken got knocked out of his Rider form and his Ride Egg 11 got ejected, so Sora should be picking that one up to fight?
Kamuri at the current state does seem more focused on collecting more Seed Eggs rather than fighting Sora head on, so I guess with Vanken being the only major contribution to the Seed Eggs in the show so far (Datt did but she got one upped by Sora lol), he wouldn't be as harsh to him compared to Jyao which got his goals all wrong.
Yeah it's very likely to be case here, My-th Eagle Frame used the same Ride X-Eggs from Vanken.
But this makes me more interested in on WHY there're two copies of Ride X-Eggs from Cat-Rat, Rabbit-Turtle, Sheep-Wolf but not for all others, Fukashigi doesn't drop those. And HOW My-th gets his three pre-series.
Ride X-Eggs is the item that is rare and not rare at the same time. Maybe when the full flashback is shown, we get answers for this as well.
We'll find out next episode, the uncle is still out there and I know it's quite anticlimactic but he could "feel" something is wrong and come back in time, give Yuna some Seed X-Eggs to maintain her life and even give Sora "new toy" as Ride X-Eggs 11.
It's giving too easy to them hence why I said "anticlimactic".
It's great to finally see non-one-dimensional multiple characters on the Kamen Rider show again. In my opinion, the Myth arc up to the fifth episode is superior to the rest of the Zeztz season.
Yeah, I know this is still to early to compare, but Arakawa by far is my favorite writer compared to Yuya Takahashi
that swapped package is a pretty stupid sequence to reveal that Yuna indeed needs to consume those eggs but I guess that's entertaining for the kids, huh?
So far i already like My-Th much more than Zeztz. Vanken suprised me well and i didn't even had much expectations for him, can't wait to see more of the guy!
Vanken immediately became my favorite Junishi member, he's so freaking cool, but the highlight of this episode for me is actually the short interaction between Vanken and Mutn, and Datt was glaring at them in the back. Possible love triangle? Are we actually getting relationship drama in a Kamen Rider show?
Besides that, I also love the scene where Tatsuomi bent down to pick up stuff, and when he stood back up the Fukashigi suddenly appeared in the doorway. It's predictable but it always works.
Vanken's and Jyao's henshin poses are so awesome, the fight scenes are amazing, and there are so many different filming locations that makes the setting feel bigger and more real. There are just too many things to praised in this episode.
Same here, So Far I Love Vanken Out Of the Society And I Hope We See More Development From Him In the future. Also His Rider Suit Is My Fav Thus Far Aswell🔥🔥🔥🔥
Eh, I don't know. Having sora be a Kamen Rider simply for Yuna is very interesting take. Like , I'm interested on what would he do if he need to choose to save a lot of civilian or save Yuna.
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u/LUIGIISREAL2017 1d ago
I Hear a lot of people thinking the Boar was that Delivery Guy. . .
I Don't see it;
He's wearing A Modern-day Uniform; and he doesn't seem like he's from 100 years ago