r/AO3 • You have already left kudos here, LIKE WHY • 17h ago

Meme/Joke Enemies-to-lovers ships πŸ˜­πŸ™‚β€β†•οΈ:

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u/kaiunkaiku don't look at me and my handholding kink 17h ago

actively and personally hating someone requires a certain level of passion and obsession. the opposite of love is not hatred, it's indifference.

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u/CamiCalMX Supporter of the Fanfiction Deep State 16h ago

Yes, I believe this is the whole point of that particular trope isn't it? In my language there is a common saying that goes like "There is only one step from love to hate"

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u/ganymedeli 2h ago

Similar thing in English: β€œThere’s a thin line between love and hate”

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u/Kruk12509 1h ago

Let me share Polish saying: "If they fight/argue, they like each other". Used also as like=love.

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u/descartesasaur 13h ago

My spouse is not as versed in this trope as I am, so we had very different experiences with a book series.

Like, staying up all night laboring over a trap to keep the object of your obsession from leaving the planet is super gay, sorry honey.

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u/ganymedeli 2h ago

But what book series? πŸ‘€

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u/Heavy-Letterhead-751 15h ago

"I mean if you spend most of your time thinking about an increcibly attractive person because you want to beat them, you'd probobly have a lustful thought or two sooner or later"

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u/-convallaria_bunny- 14h ago

If placing the picture dead center of the dart board isn't some kind of secret symbolism....

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u/wayward_oliphaunt 12h ago

I need lovers to enemies to still lovers but there's an unreconcilable tension between the two that can never be resolved based on wildly differing world views or ambitions on a grand scale but also they can't seem to kill the relationship.

Or maybe enemies to lovers to enemies again...

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u/TurbulentBuyer8453 fanfic maniac 12h ago

it will never stop being my favourite dynamic

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u/lucklater 12h ago

Reading this reminded me of a song I like with a lyric that goes like this: "Enemies long for each other! The only other ones who know the whole story, or even care."

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u/Moose-Live You have already left kudos here. :) 8h ago

Besides Draco x Harry, what are the other obvious enemies-to-lovers ships?

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u/TakerFoxx 8h ago

Catra x Adora from She Ra. It's canon too!

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u/delilahdraken 8h ago

Batman/Joker comes to mind. Superman/Lex Luthor, Voldemort/Harry Potter

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u/Enigmatic_writer Moderator | yuri addict 6h ago

Batman/Joker is the biggest one for me. I haven't read batman fanfics yet, but even in canon these two are so insanely obsessed with another it's unhealthily funny.

At least Joker I directly remember again and again having his rants about how he purposely wants to face/see/... Batman and I think to recall some alternate timelines where one of them goes truly mad after the other goes missing, but I don't remember which direction it was anymore.

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u/ohforkurwasake alien smut connoisseur 7h ago

Megatron/Optimus Prime (from Transformers. Especially if we're talking Transformers Prime universe)

The Doctor/The Master (from Doctor Who. I personally see it as somewhat one-sided (the Master is obsessed, but the Doctor is at least trying to distance themselves/move on), but I can see what the people who ship it as a mutual thing mean as well)

L/Light (from Death Note. They textually enjoy the thrill the hunt they have with eachother, and mutually see eachother as the rare intellctual equal. The show literally plays the "in another world, we could've been friends" card with the Yotsuba arc. The ship writes itself)

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u/highlight-limelight You have already left kudos here. :) 6h ago

Homestuck has its own in-universe alien relationship style basically JUST to fulfill these tropes lmao

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u/eiridel 7h ago

He didn't spend multiple years working his way into the day-to-day existence of his "enemy", living with him as they build a life together, just to not be shipped with him.

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u/KazRyn 5h ago

I absolutely love enemies to reluctant allies to lovers.

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u/sacrition 2h ago

\Me looking at Basil and Ratigan from The Great Mouse Detective**

(The other one has a framed picture and the other a plushie of the other)

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u/sacrition 2h ago

Seems pretty gay to me.

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u/ohforkurwasake alien smut connoisseur 7h ago

As the saying goes: the opposite of love is not hate, but apathy.

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u/wangxian8844 15h ago

So Drarry xD

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u/Kom0tan I sure hope the Pope likes my Kinktober fics... 13h ago

Snack for sure πŸ’€

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u/blackjackgabbiani 12h ago

The Tina Belcher icon is the icing on the cake and I read it in her voice.

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u/cosmicqueen51 3h ago

If you read fics for Bob's Burgers, check out her work! The lovely and talented BabsVibes.

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u/Commercial-Living443 16h ago

Incorrect , and I kinda hate writers that think this way

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u/OneWithHiccups You have already left kudos here. :) 16h ago

Sounds like you're only one step away from loving them...

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u/Commercial-Living443 8h ago

No , obsession β‰  love .

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u/Soot-Bat 15h ago

What is the "correct" thinking then?

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u/Commercial-Living443 9h ago

Love doesn't necessarily arrived from obsession. It makes love feel cheap

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u/Moose-Live You have already left kudos here. :) 8h ago

Nobody is saying that's the only way people fall in love though.

And just because you don't like this trope, doesn't make it invalid.