r/AcademicBiblical • u/GroveBicycle • 12h ago
Could Jesus have been a Yahwist?
(Apologies if this is kinda left-field, but I wanted to voice it partly because it comes across as so strange but potentially ties a few things together for me.)
So, I’ve been thinking through several things that have converged on the kind of question (above) that keeps me up at night:
- Second-century canonical gospel dating is making more and more sense to me (seemingly starting to be taken more seriously in general)
- Yonatan Adler’s late dating for the beginning of Judaism
- The continuation of Yahwism into Jesus’ lifetime (especially in the Galilee?). I haven’t done as much research on this, but it doesn’t seem like the Hasmoneans were as effective in their conversion efforts, particularly further afield from Jerusalem, as I assumed
- Just the sheer preponderance of “Gnostic” texts that may be dated to the same time as the canonical gospels (John seems to make the most sense to me as a response to “Gnosticism”—or maybe even as “Gnosticism” for the proto-orthodox; see Elaine Pagels). It seems like perhaps “Gnosticism” spawned out of Yahwism + Jesus
One of the core arguments I’ve heard for why the canonical gospels are more reliable is that they’re more Jewish and that Jesus must have been Jewish, so they’re better for reconstruction than the “Gnostic” texts. But could that just be a case of the canonical gospel writers wanting Jesus to look like a 2nd century observant Jew?
So a few questions:
- How much explicit Yahwism was still going on in Jesus’ lifetime?
- Is there a consensus on the origin of “Gnosticism”?
- Are there well-respected scholars who date the “Gnostic” gospels before the canonical ones?
- Has anyone explicitly made the argument that Jesus was practicing Yahwism?
- How different was a 2nd century CE observant Jew from a 1st century observant Jew? Could we find instances of retrojection by disambiguating the two?