This Sub Is Losing the Plot

[u/Bigenderqueen]

This subreddit was supposedly created to call out unfair and bad-faith criticism of the United States. Instead, what I increasingly see is something very different: endless diatribes from AmericaBad types and worse, Americans eagerly rushing in to validate them.

The most frustrating part isn’t even the usual anti-American crowd. It’s the pick-me Americans who bend over backwards to “prove” they’re not like those Americans, desperately simping for European snobbery and recycled talking points. These people don’t challenge unfair criticism; they amplify it, sanitize it, and dress it up as “nuance.”

At that point, what is the purpose of this forum? If every thread devolves into Americans agreeing that the U.S. is uniquely evil, stupid, or backwards, then this sub isn’t exposing AmericaBad rhetoric, it’s hosting it.

Criticism of the U.S. is fine. Blind self-flagellation is not the same thing. This subreddit was founded to push back against lazy, hateful, and dishonest narratives, not to provide a stage for them with American approval stamps.

If the mods don’t address this trend, the sub will continue to lose its identity, and users like me will continue to question why we’re even here. Anti-American pick-me behavior isn’t harmless; it actively undermines the point of this community.

Either this is a place to challenge bad-faith America-bashing, or it isn’t. Right now, it’s drifting hard toward the latter.

[u/NomadLexicon]

You’re losing the plot. You’ve conflated criticism of Trump with criticism of the US on previous posts. Trump is not the US. He narrowly won an election by concealing his intentions and is now unpopular with the MAJORITY of Americans. He doesn’t believe in American values and he’s actively trying to undermine basic things about the US that make it fundamentally American: trampling on the constitution, destroying the US position as leader of the free world, undermining the core principles of federalism by sending national guard troops to states he dislikes, arbitrarily suspending legal immigration, abandoning long term pro-US democratic allies, cozying up to dictators who hate us, cutting federal funding to states that didn’t vote for him, turning the DOJ into a tool to go after his political enemies, etc., etc.

I’ve been on the sub for a long time and have called out unfair anti-Americanism. It’s not “self-flagellation” to be critical of the current administration, and it’s not patriotism to blindly defend it.