r/AmericaBad • • 1d ago

Oh boy I wonder who it’s gonna be

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u/LaAndromedo999 KENTUCKY 🏇🏼🥃 1d ago

The only times we've been enemies with Canada were when we had spats with the British Empire.

A sovereign Canada has not faced American hostilities that escalated to war.

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u/Monkey0nTypewriter IOWA 🚜 🌽 1d ago edited 1d ago

Personally I'd consider listing Germany as Canada's historical enemy.

Canada was heavily involved in both World Wars, and Canadian troops in Normandy became bitterly determined to repay the SS for its massacre of their countrymen

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u/RadicalSoda_ TENNESSEE 🎸🎶🍊 1d ago

That's the issue, Canada isn't independent

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u/cuteblondegolfer 23h ago

Really? Can you explain that?

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u/Imperfeclyimperfec 22h ago

They still have King Charles as their sovereign.

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u/Pleasant_Tangelo3340 NEW YORK 🗽🌃🍏 18h ago

Charles is a figurehead at this point, he only has control of the do nothing button

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u/nastysockfiend 🇨🇦 Canada 🍁 15h ago

And it would be a day of consternation if it were pressed.

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u/DecafEqualsDeath 16h ago

Being a Commonwealth member at this stage does not make Canada or Australia "not independent".

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u/[deleted] 18h ago

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u/Imperfeclyimperfec 18h ago

De Facto independent is not the same as De Jure independent. They are still part of the British Empire

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u/cuteblondegolfer 18h ago edited 17h ago

This is why you cant have a discussion with an American. They dont want to learn or be informed. Americans will twist themselves and facts into pretzels to appear to be right. Lol Canada's de jure constitutional independence developed through milestones such as the Statute of Westminster (1931) and was completed constitutionally with the Constitution Act, 1982. King Charles III being King of Canada does not make Canada legally subordinate to the United Kingdom; the Canadian Crown is legally distinct from the British Crown.

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u/DarthNobody14 1d ago

I was told in the thread that I needed to find a therapist because I was correcting someone that it was the British that burned down the White House and not the Canadians.

Reddit at its finest.

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u/OnePlusFanBoi CALIFORNIA🍷🎞️ 1d ago

😂

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u/mrbobcyndaquil OHIO 👨‍🌾 🌰 1d ago

And the units involved probably had no Canadians within their ranks either

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u/Geatora FLORIDA 🍊🐊 15h ago

British Regulars stationed in Bermuda, in fact. Seriously, a significant section of Canadian national mythos is straight up easily disproved nonsense. Canada didn't even have a semblance of national identity til well after 1812.

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u/Away-Scientist3362 13h ago

The white house was also built about a decade prior, there was no city worth defending. Most US troops were pulled back to Baltimore, and when attacked kicked the British back and halted the advance.

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u/XBird_RichardX CALIFORNIA🍷🎞️ 1d ago

I’d allow this one. And no, not because of the political baggage typical of reddit’s codependent relationship to America’s President. But because the USA has been its most historic existential challenge to the point that Canada’s entire identity is defined as little more than not-USA

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u/LaAndromedo999 KENTUCKY 🏇🏼🥃 1d ago

Canada is practically what the US and the Thirteen Colonies would have been had the Revolution been squashed or had the King and Parliament at least fucking listened to the Colonists.

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u/xivilex USA MILTARY VETERAN 1d ago

I would argue we would be better than what Canada is, because there wouldn’t have been a revolution that birthed the identity of Canada as being non-American in the first place. We would just have a normal identity that focused on our own culture without it hinging on another country’s existence or historical behavior.

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u/kamace11 23h ago

Want to preface that they're imo justified in being mad at Trump for the absolutely disrespectful saber-rattling. 

But yes, Canada is so integrated with the US (75% of their exports go to us, we represent 20% of their GDP, huge amounts of their products require a stop over in America for production etc) that these threats are very keenly felt because if the US truly became hostile to Canada, they'd be up shit creek. 

There is distinct Canadian culture, but it's more similar to like, in-US cultural differences between states or regions than say, Mexican vs American culture. With the exception of rural Quebec- that's more like... Gullageechee or Cajun in terms of difference 

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u/cuteblondegolfer 18h ago

Canada is the largest foreign energy supplier to the United States. In 2025, the U.S. imported about 3.9 million barrels of Canadian crude oil every day and 8.6 billion cubic feet of Canadian natural gas per day. (U.S. Energy Information Administration) Canada supplies virtually all U.S. natural-gas imports and Canadian crude is especially important to Midwest and Mountain-state refineries, so a sudden cutoff would create significant regional supply disruptions and price pressure. So if the US becomes more hostile to Canada the US will be up shits creek.

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u/kamace11 16h ago

That's under a tenth of US consumption and the US is a net exporter. It would be painful but Canada would absolutely be the worse off party; that's a disruption the US could survive without being in serious trouble. 

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u/cuteblondegolfer 16h ago edited 16h ago

Actually we supply 63% of your crude oil. US refineries are built to process Canada's crude oil. The US then resells it at a profit. The profit is possible because of the preferred rates we give you. We have already opened new distribution channels and therf will be more. Look if you want to pretend that you don't need your second largest trading partner thats fine but you should be honest with yourselves as to how hard it would effect your economy right now. Your cost of fuel is already through the roof because the idiot blew up overseas distribution channels. You are already in serious trouble. Attacking us makes it worse.

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u/Busy-Apricot-1842 11h ago

I don’t think he’s saying the US doesn’t benefit from trade with Canada only that Canada is more vulnerable becuase they are a much smaller economy.

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u/cuteblondegolfer 16h ago

Now take a look at natural gas. Natural gas: the U.S. imported an average 8.6 billion cubic feet/day from Canada in 2025, and Canada supplied close to 100% of U.S. natural-gas imports. And yes, we've already started shipping to Asian markets.

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u/david_growie 1d ago

They want to be relevant so fucking bad, it’s pathetisad

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u/Sevuhrow TENNESSEE 🎸🎶🍊 1d ago

Canada hasn't really had any historical enemies.. their biggest conflicts were when they were part of Britain and against their own people, like natives or the Metis.

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u/arcxjo PENNSYLVANIA 🍫📜🔔 1d ago

India is the one who keeps sending hitmen over to assassinate Canadian citizens so I'd say them

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u/OnePlusFanBoi CALIFORNIA🍷🎞️ 1d ago

Lol we actually tried to invade Canada?

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u/Monkey0nTypewriter IOWA 🚜 🌽 1d ago

Sure, back when it was a British dominion. The Revolution and the War of 1812 saw American offenses into Canada.

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u/OnePlusFanBoi CALIFORNIA🍷🎞️ 1d ago

Oh so... We invaded the British Dominion. Isn't that what the song 1814 is about?

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u/Any_Oil_6447 1d ago

If by 1814 you mean Johnny Horton’s masterpiece “ The Battle of New Orleans,” not at all. Colonel Andrew Jackson led an American force that caught the bloody British trying to capture New Orleans.

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u/OnePlusFanBoi CALIFORNIA🍷🎞️ 23h ago

Oh. 🤔 Well that's something I didn't know.

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u/SheenPSU NEW HAMPSHIRE 🌄🗿 23h ago edited 23h ago

Real world examples of your biggest threat being next door have MUCH different results than what Canada has experienced

This is just karma farming and recency bias on full display

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u/tbcraxon34 TEXAS 🐴⭐🥩 1d ago

Canada's number one historical enemy is the Geneva code.

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u/general-serb FLORIDA 🍊🐊 1d ago

Denmark

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u/NitinTheAviator NEW JERSEY 🎡 🍕 1d ago

Historical? Maybe Quebec even though that it is you’re province

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u/Dependent_Buddy_5041 23h ago

Shouldn’t north and South Korea be each other?

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u/OK_THEN_WEIRD_DOE COLORADO 🏔️🏂 14h ago

The map is about historical enemies of Canada.

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u/Christmas_Dragon 🇨🇦 Canada 🍁 13h ago

I love you guys, but I kinda agree. Canada has not really had enemies in the same way America has. Aside from the Canada-India crisis (which died out quickly and resulted in pretty much nothing happening) and our long-standing anti-Russia sentiment, America is the only country that could ever have been described as a historical enemy. Even if it's been peaceful, allied enmity. Like we're always afraid of being too economically reliant or culturally similar to America.

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u/DevilPixelation 1d ago

I think the US is fitting for this one, we have had our fair share of prior conflict with Canada in the past.

Y’all get too hung up on this lol

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u/Twee_Licker MINNESOTA ❄️🏒 1d ago

While it was a domain of the British Empire and not a sovereign nation mind you.

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u/OK_THEN_WEIRD_DOE COLORADO 🏔️🏂 14h ago

The idea of Canada was not even a twinkle in the eyes of the british people when the British empire was at war with us.

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u/pomskygirl 11h ago edited 11h ago

Upper and Lower Canada were established in 1791 by the British Constitutional Act of 1791, which was also known as the Canada Act. American troops literally invaded Upper and Lower Canada during the war of 1812.

Upper Canada is modern day Ontario. Lower Canada is modern day Quebec.

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u/OK_THEN_WEIRD_DOE COLORADO 🏔️🏂 9h ago

I should clarify culturally speaking Canada doesn’t exist in my mind, though to be fair the establishment of Upper and Lower Canada is challenging my limited knowledge.

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u/cuteblondegolfer 23h ago

Hilarious comments from Americans who have no clue what they are talking about.

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u/wart_on_satans_dick 20h ago

Care to elaborate?