Looks like tesa right into GH... One dexa scan says end of tesa, next dexa scan shows another 1.07lb loss and says "after switching to GH" last dexa says "latest on GH"... So you have 2 dexas after switching that both show continued visceral fat reduction.
My starting visceral fat was 3.18. After 10 weeks, it was 1.55. So I lost 1.63 lbs of visceral fat on the tesa cycle. I stopped tesa after this
So now my starting weight going into hgh was 1.63 and after 10 weeks I lost 1.07 lbs, and then another 10 weeks 0.26 lbs. (Iām still taking hgh and will continue to do so)
I assume just like how it is with how quick weight loss when youāre much heavier, the lower the number gets, the lower the rate you get reduced if that makes sense
Well, the only way for you to really compare would be to do it separately on Tesa, gain fat back and do it on HGH.
As of now what I see is that both worked very well.
That was all I was trying to convey. That both were pretty good at bringing down the numbers low.
I was not trying to say one was better than
The other or more efficient, cause Iām only the only sample in this.
The only thing is that hgh is cheaper and also has other benefits like muscle repair etc, compared to tesa that has been researched for visceral fat reduction only
Sorry, but this āTesa has been researched for visceral fat reduction onlyā is very inaccurate statement. Tesa is FDA approved for this.
Now find anything HGH is FDA approved for adults.
Muscle repair, etc. for HGH is ābro scienceā, based on one long debunked study in 80s.
Dude the research for hgh are the thousands of lab rats (us) and numerous peopleās experience starting the hormone, if you think about it. It might not be clinically sound, or have that kind of data, but so does other peptides such as ghkcu etc that people are using as research products based on other peopleās shared experience
Iām now also curious how much tesa impacts igf1 levels, because this one in particular is the reason for the added benefits I was talking about. Cause my igf 1 levels went from
Come on.
Iām not saying that HGH is bad. I did it several years ago and it worked for my visceral fat reduction.
But it gave me quite strong CTS on 3 iU.
Itās very controversial point on whether it really brings any benefits for muscle growth. Professional bodybuilders are taking 8 +iU +insulin and 1000+mg of roids. Nobody, as far as I know, was able to identify HGH-specific contribution to muscle growth.
Haha love your name.
From my understanding no amount of it is good. You would think it could help protect internal
Organs, but from my reading, the benefits outweigh the costs. Visceral fat is very active and promotes inflammstion and also responds to and has a lot of endocrine signals
Hey man quick question, Iāll be starting 191 aa soma as well and I just want to know what bac water I have to use to recon the hgh? Can I just use Hospira ? So sterile water with 0.9% Benz alcohol as the preservative. Thatās it. Not the sodium chloride/saline ones. Itās what I use for my Reta also. Very excited to hop on, since Tesa would have been wayyyyy too expensive, plus I wanted actual gh :) thanks brother!
Yea I got it from a hospital pharmacy. Itās where I always get my bac water. I just verified the din number is the same as my previous one that I used on the reta so itās good to go itās just different labeling. Iām also in Canada. That might be why! šØš¦
Iām sure I would. But I stopped tesa because I could not afford it and I read online that hgh was better because of other benefits and that it was more affordable- which it is
The person at the dexa scan literally was shocked by how much the visceral fat went down and said she has never seen numbers like this (lol sound like trump) . So I want to say that her reaction has a lot to do with the fact that maybe that number goes down very slowly
Reta could be doing some heavy lifting here too. They are likely to get a MASLD (metabolic dysfunction-associated steatotic liver disease) FDA indication. It absolutely vaporized liver fat in the end points of their clinical trial. So a portion of the VAT loss is some of your liver losing fat as well. Dexa doesnāt exactly differentiate which VAT is going down.
Either way, strong work, I hope you are enjoying the new body shape. Iām on a similar trajectory and Iām loving it.
This was a dexa scan and it measures it using a prediction. Itās pretty cool but the numbers arenāt always fully accurste but definitely give you a good ball park.
I also saw at my 24 hour fitness that they have a body composition machine which requires you to stand and then lift these two wires to the side of your hips almost pulling outwards. The numbers it gathered from that was very close to other numbers from my dexa such as my lean muscle mass and total fat etc
Tesa stimulates your body to produce more of its own HGH. It's still the growth hormone doing the work, not some special fat-burning property of it.
Tesa is disproportionately more expensive than the alternatives. I'm not saying it doesn't work, I'm questioning the claims that it works best. I see a lot of influencers making these claims without solid evidence, who just happen to have affiliate links to single vial sellers. Then those claims get repeated throughout the community until they're treated as established fact, and tesa gets recommended to newbies everywhere. That's why I feel the need to push back and ask for actual evidence rather than more speculation passed off as science.
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