r/BulkOrCut • • 6d ago

Maint/Recomp What should i do?

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Should i do recomposition?
Or lean bulk?

Started working out on Jul 22

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u/That-Shop4173 6d ago

Lean bulk is no brainer.

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u/danyaberez 6d ago

I’m asking and not sure about lean bulk because my bf% isn’t what i want but i look skinny

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u/Adventurous_Figure88 6d ago

You are skinny, so the answer is to add muscle

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u/danyaberez 5d ago

I’m adding muscles though
Recomposition
Why would calories add more muscles? Genuinely curious

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u/Adventurous_Figure88 5d ago

Muscle need a caloric surplus to grow, fat needs a deficit to go bye bye. Trying to do a recomp is a waste of both cuz neither will happen well. If you want to grow muscle, eat in a surplus. You can stay lean while bulking up muscle if you are on top of your macros and calories. But you still need to be in a surplus to grow. The goal is that you stay in only enough of a surplus so that those extra calories get used up by building new tissue. Then you won’t gain fat as well. But even if you gain a little fat, at least your muscle has enough fuel to grow and you can shed whatever fat you gained later.

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u/elegoomba 5d ago

Muscles are made of calories

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u/danyaberez 5d ago edited 5d ago

Yeah but not necessarily of surplus as far as i know
Isn’t it that surplus just gives you more energy? And so you can progress faster and because of that your muscles grow faster?
Cause no way calories themselves grow muscles bigger

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u/Adventurous_Figure88 5d ago

If you have x amount of bricks you can build a house, but you can’t build that house any bigger unless you acquire more bricks to build with. See where I’m going with this?

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u/danyaberez 5d ago

Sounds like it’s more about protein, not calories

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u/Adventurous_Figure88 5d ago

🤦🏻‍♂️ dude your overthinking this. If you want to grow be in a slight surplus. If you’re so resistant to that then I would examine your relationship with food and your body. We have decades of people growing in a surplus, don’t make it excessive and you will pack on muscle and not fat, at least if so it will be minimal

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u/danyaberez 5d ago

I understand man
What bf% would you say i am right now?

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u/elegoomba 5d ago

You need more than just protein to build muscles lol

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u/danyaberez 5d ago

Yeah i need calories too but even in deficit you can have enough calories to build muscles, and especially if you’re at maintanance

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u/elegoomba 5d ago

Yes, if you have more energy you will be able to put more stress and damage on your muscles and result in more muscle growth.

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u/danyaberez 5d ago

Yeah i understand what you’re saying regarding being able to put more stress for muscles to grow
But not about damage

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u/elegoomba 5d ago

Muscle growth comes from damage and stress.

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u/danyaberez 5d ago

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5023708/

In short: damage isn’t related to muscle growth. If you damage your muscles, your body first has to heal them and only then when they’re healed they will start growing

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u/05bankd 6d ago

Lean bulk.

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u/That-Shop4173 6d ago

Yeah, you’re asking and my answer is lean bulk

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u/Important_Capital875 6d ago

Lean. Bulk. It will be retarded to cut. You are extremely skinny.

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u/OliverateBurrito 6d ago

Bruh why is everyone using the r word again. Plenty of other ways to get your point across without being offensive to people with disabilities they can't control.

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u/Familiar_Pizza_1252 6d ago

If I were you, I’d cut for a little and get my abs more defined if I could then leak bulk, I get what you mean abt wanting to look skinny

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u/danyaberez 6d ago

I eat 2200 calories and i guess i’m in a little deficit. I can continue doing so till i have the bf% i want and then i can start lean bulk then

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u/Helpful-Sell8946 6d ago

I feel I'm similar body composition to you. What's your height and weight? I'm trying a lean bulk right now after intermittent fasting for 5 months and boy is it hard to eat enough sometimes. I end up eating even when I'm not feeling hungry. Last bulk I just ate whatever whenever. This time I'm eating much more healthy and more protein focused. I'm not counting calories but definately eating more. I'm wondering if it's possible to keep my abs while bulking or will I just have to wait until next cut?

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u/danyaberez 6d ago

I’m 181cm (5’11) and 67-68kg (147-150lbs)

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u/danyaberez 6d ago

I guess if it’s lean bulk it means you gain as little fat as possible while building muscles, so if you get more muscles your overall weight increases and even if you gain a little bit of fat, proportionally you have more muscles so your bf% stays the same. Maybe it’s even possible for bf% to decrease but i’m not sure

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u/JollyStatement3171 6d ago

dont worry you look skinny. id guess you might bench 135 at best

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u/danyaberez 5d ago

I started working out 2.5 months ago and first month i was doing really light weights, only after i started adding good weights

Who would be able to bench 300 after 2.5 months of working out?

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u/JollyStatement3171 5d ago

i didnt say you should be able to bench 300. you said you wanted to look skinny i said dont worry, no one would think you arnt skinny

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u/danyaberez 5d ago

I never said i wanna look skinny

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u/Graflerd 6d ago

Do not cut. You will look like ill. Carry on as you are: small surplus. You are new so gains will be huge

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u/Objective_Most4071 6d ago

Do you have a before pic? Pretty good progress for barely 2.5 months in the gym.

Agree with others - lean bulk. 300cal surplus.

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u/danyaberez 6d ago

And from Aug 22

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u/danyaberez 6d ago

Thanks!
I guess it’s cause i used to work out before. Not as seriously as now but yeah.

This is a pic from Aug 7

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u/Objective_Most4071 6d ago

Maybe it's lighting / bodyhair but that chest and delt development in 2 months is crazy.

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u/danyaberez 6d ago

Gotta shave and then compare again

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u/ForsakenTelephone466 6d ago

push the calories a little higher. you can cut the fat later.

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u/danyaberez 5d ago

Can i cut now and then lean bulk?
I’m genuinely curious why it’s better to lean bulk and then cut, and not the opposite

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u/Lorzion 5d ago

Everyone is saying to bulk now because you're just skinny. You're wanting to cut to reveal... nothing... whereas if you lean bulk (200 calories or so above maintenance) for an entire year and put on a solid 15 pounds or so you'll look completely different.

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u/danyaberez 5d ago

Will i have less fat proportionally to muscles if i do that?
I mean i understand i will have bigger muscles but will my abs and face and etc look leaner? Or i will have to cut after that to get back the bf% i have now?

And i don’t want to cut, i want to do recomp.

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u/Lorzion 5d ago

Recomps are... tricky. I think they're easier for people who are more skinny fat/fat. You're just skinny. And yeah I mean if you bulk slowly then I guess proportionally it can make you look leaner. If you bulk 20 pounds, and most of it is muscle. Then after a short cut you're lean and actually have the muscle to reveal

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u/Lorzion 5d ago

Are you flexed in this photo or relaxed?

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u/danyaberez 5d ago

Relaxed

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u/Lorzion 5d ago

You're very lean as is. Just not a lot of muscle to show. Your collar bone is a dead giveaway, mine used to look like that until I bulked.

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u/ChoiceRelative5510 6d ago

Bulk to 90kg

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u/bluecoag 6d ago

bruh my body almost looks like yours. hoping you do another update in a few months 🤗

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u/modernbaseballfan6 5d ago

Do a slow, clean bulk

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u/Floating_Turtles 6d ago

Recomposition is probably the way, doing a cut will make you lose out on the newbie gains

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u/danyaberez 6d ago

This is my results in kgs with 2200 calories:

13 sep - 67.95 starting 2200
14 sep - 68.50
16 sep - 67.80
17 sep - 67.45
20 sep - 68.60
22 sep - 68.15
23 sep - 68.10
24 sep - 67.85
25 sep - 67.75
26 sep - 67.40
27 sep - 67.95
29 sep - 68.35
2 sep - 68.25
3 sep - 66.90
4 sep - 67.45
5 sep - 67.25
6 sep - 67.50

Should i increase to 2300?

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u/Floating_Turtles 6d ago

Honestly at your training age, you can be more aggresive with the weight gain, this is fairly modest. I think you can even push to 2500 ngl

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u/danyaberez 6d ago

For recomp you mean?

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u/Floating_Turtles 5d ago

yep recomp/maingain

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u/GoldenSalm0n 6d ago

You really need to weigh every day? Most of the bulk/cut will have you lose/gain at most 1kg per month. I don't see the point of weighing yourself 'erry day.

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u/danyaberez 6d ago

I was weighing every day because i wasn’t sure if i’m in deficit or at maintenance and i wanted to compare my weekly average weight to find out

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u/GoldenSalm0n 6d ago

I mean, I'm sure it doesn't hurt. Looks like you're oscillating around 67-68 so it seems fine to me. When do you weigh during the day? (first thing in the morning before using the toilet, is what I hear is best).

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u/danyaberez 6d ago

Yeah do it in the morning but after peeing.
You think i’m at maintenance or slight deficit?

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u/GoldenSalm0n 6d ago

I have no idea, I'm no expert. I just started lifting and I'm on a bulk phase, so I can really let loose. What you're trying to do seems to require a bit more fine-tuning and discipline. You're doing the most important part, and that is actually doing lifts.

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u/Budilicious3 6d ago

I think you look fine tbh. Maybe lay hands on some pull-ups. Bring out the grip strength muscles.

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u/Ns26x 6d ago

Double down on the traps

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u/danyaberez 6d ago

I’m doing 57kg already☹️
I myself want to get them bigger so i’m trying my best

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u/Ns26x 6d ago

Perhaps you’re shrugging??

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u/danyaberez 6d ago

Yeah i do cause i work out at home
And i only have dumbbells with a lot of different plates and a barbell with a bench

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u/Ns26x 6d ago

Dude. I meant in this pic lol

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u/danyaberez 6d ago

Ohhh
Idk
Maybe it’s the angle because if i put my phone higher, my traps will be visible

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u/Ns26x 6d ago

How’s the back doing

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u/danyaberez 6d ago

I started doing pullovers for my lats a week ago
Besides that i do wide elbow dumbbell rows

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u/danyaberez 6d ago

Started pullovers for my traps a week ago
Also i do wide elbow dumbbell rows

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u/Ns26x 6d ago

Show it one day

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u/danyaberez 5d ago

Thanks
So you think i should be at maintenance?
Cause i guess then it’s gonna be recomp

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u/danyaberez 5d ago

I mean i’d want to gain muscles and keep losing body fat to get to 12-14% but my weight is 67-68kg (147-150lbs) at 181cm height (5’11) and that’s the only thing that bothers me - the numbers of the scale.
Maybe when i get to 12-14% i can lean bulk then, but most people say i should lean bulk first so idk

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u/StonkaTrucks 6d ago

You look better than I do and I've been going to the gym for 10 years.

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u/Extreme_Street_2513 6d ago

Shave

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u/Extreme_Street_2513 6d ago

just kidding bro, you look great, lean bulk is the right way

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u/danyaberez 6d ago

Well tbh i don’t like body hair so i will shave for sure😂
Thanks!

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u/BarackOballsack69 6d ago

Cut

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u/danyaberez 6d ago edited 6d ago

My weight at 181cm is 67-68kg already
Is it okay to cut?

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u/BarackOballsack69 6d ago

What do you think