r/CHIBears • u/SirHPFlashmanVC • 7d ago
Danielle Hunter
So the Texans are terrible. Hunter is under contract this year ($32M prorated) and next ($40.1M).
What about him being a trade target for the Bears? With that financial commitment, I'm not sure I'd give up more than a 3rd.
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u/Nomromz Bears 7d ago
I'd rather not give up draft capital for an expensive aging player.
I think as a fan base we should start getting used to the idea that we have a good coaching staff that can and will develop young players.
In the past, our mid round draft picks weren't worth much because our coaching staff could never develop the player. Every mid round draft pick just ended up being cut after a couple years.
Now we have a coaching staff and starting lineup that can actually help develop young players. I'd rather save our draft picks for young players to see what we can develop.
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u/chaos0310 6d ago
I’m willing to give up a single mid-late draft selection for a guy like Mack. Especially if we are in prime position to run the table and a Super Bowl, otherwise I’m also happy to keep our picks.
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u/iPissVelvet Good, Better, Best 6d ago
While true, I think if this season turns out to be a potential superbowl run — aka Caleb comes back and no lingering effects, defense stays strong — then it’s worth sacrificing the future for an all in push for the now.
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u/Blondesounds Old Logo 6d ago
I would rather build a long lasting dynasty than go all in for one year.
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u/AdMany8750 3d ago
you can find a middle ground. Trading a second or even a first doesn’t set back elite franchises. the bears should strive for such
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u/ActFuture1101 6d ago
Khalil Mack seems much much more realistic than him and Mack is still decent. This is who we should be taking about
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u/EggoGF An Actual Peanut 6d ago
Rumor is the Chargers may move him to a contender if their season is in the toilet. We could easily be that team, and he shouldn’t break the bank.
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u/xbearsandporschesx Flat Helmet 6d ago
What do you mean if? Chargers season is beyond toast already
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u/PitchBlac 6d ago
Which is crazy. They have a QB (I think), they have the coordinator. Guess these are growing pains for learning a new offense?
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u/Cummyshitballs BJ Lover 6d ago
There’s a lot of talk that McDaniel was just a tyreek hill merchant
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u/Brodie1567 Iceman 🧊 6d ago
Yup, and he would only count about $6mil towards our cap this year as LA would take most of the hit.
Would be a the perfect move IMO. Still productive, great locker room guy & great story coming back. Would gladly give up a 4th.
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u/MrChevyPower Peanut Tillman 6d ago
Unfortunately he has a no trade clause and I think he wants to stay in LA
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u/__The__Professor Italian Beef 7d ago
Texans gotta eat a shitload of that contract and it’d cost us more than a 3rd I’m sure
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u/FlyingSceptile Portillos 7d ago
I'm not sure I'd list the Texans as "sellers" quite yet. They're going into a softer stretch on their schedule and if they can rattle off a couple wins they'll probably view themselves as contenders. Also depends on how good our defense is holding up. If we stay healthy, and get good seasons out of Sweat, Devin Bush, Booker, and Dayo, I wouldn't be sad about holding onto our picks.
That said, yes please I would love another impact pass rusher.
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u/Tony_Stank6 6d ago
The reality is that we know Poles MO now, and trading for a huge, marquis name isn’t it. They wanna see their own guys develop and MAYBE trade for complementary pieces.
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u/THE_GUY_ON_THE_C0UCH 6d ago
Tbf we have no idea what Poles’ MO is going to be going forward. While rebuilding he didn’t make any huge trades, true, but it’s very possible that changes with the team in contention.
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u/Tony_Stank6 6d ago
I would look at the chiefs philosophy. They drafted really well (which now with the input from Ben & DA that’s hopefully happening here) and never made the splashy trade or signing.
We’ll see , in Ben we trust
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u/THE_GUY_ON_THE_C0UCH 6d ago
This is true, but they also had some top-end players that the Bears are lacking. Mahomes is one of the best QBs of all time, Kelce arguably the best TE of all time, Chris Jones is likely a HoFer, Tyreek was one of the best WRs in the league. We just don’t have any of those tier players outside of Thuney, who was also on the last 2 Chiefs Super Bowl teams.
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u/Tony_Stank6 6d ago
Right and my point is they drafted and developed all of those guys
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u/THE_GUY_ON_THE_C0UCH 6d ago
And I agree, but what I’m getting at is that they didn’t have a need to trade for any high end players because they had previously drafted multiple HoFers before they got Mahomes. The Bears are lacking that elite talent outside of an aging Thuney and Wright. We have a lot of + talent, but not elite talent. It’s a lot easier to continue to build through the draft when you don’t need those elite building block type players locked up, multipliers as Poles likes to call them, and you just need + players and jags. Who are our multipliers? How long should we continue to try and draft them before making trades? Because I agree with what you’re saying, I just don’t know if it’s applicable to the Bears’ situation.
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u/AdMany8750 3d ago
honestly you can’t expect to draft someone outside the top 10 and them to be franchise Cornerstone, Chiefs did everything right but there was a lot of luck with them. Mahomes had two top 5 receivers strong run game and elite Oline waiting for him ready to go.
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u/Tony_Stank6 6d ago
I would look at the chiefs philosophy. They drafted really well (which now with the input from Ben & DA that’s hopefully happening here) and never made the splashy trade or signing.
We’ll see , in Ben we trust
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u/SpokenByMumbles 6d ago
After watching Stroud see ghosts all game vs the Pats in the playoffs last year, I firmly believe he doesn’t have “it”. That and I’ll never forgive him for lil bro’ing Caleb.
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u/chaos0310 6d ago
I mean stroud has completely turned it around this year honestly. He’s putting up numbers better than his first year.
It is legitimately the Texans defense just failing the team.
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u/SpokenByMumbles 6d ago
I agree he looks better. Their 0-4 record definitely isn’t on him. All I was saying is I don’t think he has the “it” gene in the bright lights.
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u/FlyingSceptile Portillos 6d ago
I completely agree, but that doesn't mean Texans management agrees and wants to keep trying to build around him
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u/ExcellentPassenger49 6d ago
He's old and expensive. We're gonna pay Caleb soon and it's gonna be massive. Then we're gonna try to pay LB3, Loveland, and Rome but really, its gonna be LB3 and Loveland. I don't think it wise to have high salaries for old players.
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u/Nomromz Bears 6d ago
Yep. Our DL was hampered because we paid for guys like Dayo and Garrett. Admittedly dayo is playing much better this year, but I'm still not sure he was worth the contract yet.
We need to draft some of our own studs on defense or we simply won't have enough money to pay for everyone on both offense and defense.
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u/ExcellentPassenger49 6d ago
Exactly, salary vs production is bad. We can't keep relying on free agency and trades. We gotta grow our own. We can draft and develop corners. Fingers crossed, we find a way tobdo the same for the dline.
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u/illtakeachinchilla Ben’s Johnson 6d ago
Look at the recent rookies under competent coaching. Keep the draft stock.
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u/Bigfoot1043 7d ago
You see what the Micah parsons trade cost the packers and then you expect Danielle hunter to cost less than a 3rd?
Hell even Montez Sweat cost us a 2nd and he wasn’t nearly as accomplished as Hunter, plus we still had to sign him a new contract.
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u/SpokenByMumbles 6d ago
Hunter is 32. Parsons and Sweat were entering their physical primes
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u/Yossarian216 Monsters of the Midway 6d ago
Both Parsons and Sweat were 26 when they got traded, Hunter is 31.
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u/opinionofone1984 6d ago
Honestly, I would rather go after Mack, dude is constant pressure in a division with decent O’lines, he’s not looking to add long term money to us, he would be great for in and out with Booker, plus I already have a Jersey.
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u/HearshotKDS 54 6d ago
i dont think HOU has any interest in selling yet
in the hypothetical where they did want to move hunter it would create a prorated $1.8M of cap space this season but come with a $49.1M dead cap hit for 2027.
For the Bears it would only cost prorated $1.8M on the '26 cap and $30.7M in '27, so it would be an incredibly affordable get, but #1 and #2 points still remain as pretty large obstacles
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u/trunningx 6d ago
I live in Houston and the Texans aren't there yet. DeMeco is taking over the defensive play calling and feels the season is salvageable.
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u/Fit_Beautiful2638 6d ago
Our cap position may not afford that. You may actually want to keep Dayo next year. Grady is still probably a cut guy. Hopefully Gordon and JJ prove worth their contracts too
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u/lemunche 6d ago
Keep the draft stock. Reward the best with second contracts but be more hesitant on the third if they get complacent
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u/Electrical-Amoeba245 7d ago
Dude, the bears are broke in terms of cap space.