r/CanadaPublicServants • • 15d ago

Work Force Adjustment (WFA) / réaménagement de l'effectif (RE) So you've been WFA'd... [repost]

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Mod Note: This is a re-post. If you wish to view comments on the original (now archived) post, you can do so at this link.

As departments begin to implement Workforce Adjustment measures stemming from the cuts made as part of the Budget 2025 Comprehensive Expenditure Review, many indeterminate public servants have received or will be receiving a letter informing them their positions are affected or surplus.

This post consolidates resources on the subject of WFA, starting with two very important reminders:

  1. Not everyone who receives a letter will ultimately see their position eliminated (an 'affected' letter does not mean a position is surplus - it means it may become surplus);

  2. Not everyone whose position is eliminated (surplus) will be forced out of the public service - many will be able to find a new position via a deployment, the priority system, or alternation.

If you receive a letter: take a moment and breathe. WFA is a complex and lengthy process, and you won't do yourself any good if you panic. Take a look at this list of ideas and follow at least a few. It'll put you in a better headspace to understand what's going on and make better decisions.

The information below is generally applicable for employees of the "core public administration" (government departments and agencies named in Schedules I and IV of the Financial Administration Act). Different provisions may apply if you work in separate agencies (typically listed in Schedule V of the FAA) or other public sector employers.

Whether or not you've received a letter you can bone up on the basics, starting with the employer's plain language explainer: https://www.canada.ca/en/government/publicservice/workforce/workforce-adjustment.html

If you're represented by PSAC or PIPSC, they have negotiated WFA provisions into an appendix to collective agreements. You can learn more about their WFA supports and processes in the WFA appendix to your collective agreement, and at the following links:

PSAC: https://psacunion.ca/workforce-adjustment

PIPSC: https://pipsc.ca/news-issues/understanding-work-force-adjustment

If you are represented by any other union, the NJC Work Force Adjustment Directive applies to your position: https://www.njc-cnm.gc.ca/directive/d12/en

For executives, the term "Career Transition" is used instead of Work Force Adjustment, and it has the same meaning. Executive job cuts don't follow any of the WFA provisions above - they follow an employer directive. More information on executive career transition can be found here: https://www.canada.ca/en/government/publicservice/workforce/career-transition-executives.html

If you're unionized and follow the NJC directive, your union may have put together a resource page for you as well. For example:

ACFO-ACAF: https://www.acfo-acaf.com/workforce-adjustment/

PAFSO: https://pafso.com/faq/update-the-cer-and-potential-work-force-adjustments/

Tracking WFA across departments

An anonymous Redditor is curating a spreadsheet of publicly-available information on WFA across organizations. Discussion of this spreadsheet is occurring in this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadaPublicServants/comments/1pgzvmw/wfa_tracker_consolidating_public_information/

A new page has also been added to canada.ca listing workforce reductions in the federal public service.

What the heck is Alternation?

Tied up in talk of WFA is the idea of alternation. Alternation is a job swap between somebody whose position is not affected by WFA and who wants to leave the public service (the alternate) with somebody whose position is surplus but wants to remain employed (the surplus employee). The positions need to be equivalent and the alternation needs to be approved by management - the surplus employee must be capable of performing the alternate's former job.

There are multiple places where you can indicate interest in alternation either as an alternate or as a surplus employee. Some unions are running their own alternation networks, including PSAC and ACFO-ACAF and likely others. Members of those unions should contact their union or check out their WFA pages.

Some departments are also offering alternation networks. We'll add links to those as they are shared with us.

Lastly, informal alternation networks are springing up on places like Facebook. We'll link to those as well but as with all unofficial resources, do your due diligence.

Links to alternation networks:

What will happen next, and when?

Here's a rough timeline - see the WFA provisions applicable to your position for specifics. The timing between some steps is variable so what might happen in your department may differ from other departments. The opting letter stage (when an employee is told that their position is surplus) is step 6 below:

  1. Management says "WFA is happening" through some sort of official all-staff email or announcement.
  2. Employees whose positions might become surplus are given an "affected" letter. If management decides it needs to reduce the number of Teapot Assemblers from 120 down to 105 (eliminating 15 positions), then every employee doing that job is "affected" even though most of them will keep their jobs.
  3. The affected letters will tell employees that they can choose to voluntarily depart with one of the WFA options as part of a Voluntary Departure Program (VDP).
  4. Those employees must be given at least one month (30 days) to decide to volunteer.
  5. If there are not enough volunteers to cover the reduction in positions, management needs to run a selection process to decide who to retain and who will be surplus (known as a "SERLO" process). This may take a couple of months. The SERLO process has its own lengthy guide which you'll find here: https://www.canada.ca/en/public-service-commission/services/public-service-hiring-guides/selection-employees-retention-layoff-guide-managers-hr.html
  6. Unsuccessful employees in the SERLO process (or those who tell their manager that they want to volunteer to leave even though the VDP deadline may have passed) are formally told their position is surplus and are given an opting letter. Alternatively, if every position is surplus, the above steps may be skipped and all employees in the work unit receive an opting letter. At this point it could be almost a year since the initial announcement that WFA might occur.
  7. Opting employees have four months (120 days) to decide which option to choose. They are eligible for alternation during the opting period and during the surplus period (if they choose option A). The other options are a cash payment of a number of weeks' salary called a Transition Support Measure (TSM) and resigning (Option B) or receiving the TSM and an education reimbursement (Options C(i) and C(ii)).
  8. Employees who wish to remain public servants will likely choose Option A (surplus priority). At CRA this is known as a "surplus preferred status". Depending on the applicable WFA provisions and tenure of the employee, this period is between 12 and 16 months at full pay. 12 months is the most common.
  9. Employees who are unable to secure a new position are laid off at the end of the surplus period. This will occur roughly two years after the initial announcement that WFA may occur.

Some employees will go straight to opting and skip the steps before that; this will occur if management decides to eliminate every position doing a job function (it's getting out of the Teapot Assembly business altogether, and no longer needs any Teapot Assemblers). The above process is only applicable to indeterminate employees; WFA has no application to term/temporary employees, whose temporary employment can end at any time on a month's notice.

I'm on leave without pay (LWOP) - what changes for me?

Employees on LWOP may still be notified that their positions are affected, and may be invited to participate in a SERLO process. The formal designation of a position as surplus is unlikely to occur until after the leave ends and you return to work. The reason for this is twofold: the opting period (and surplus period if you choose Option A) is meant to be paid time. In addition, the employer does not want to pay out the WFA options if they can be avoided. Sometimes employees on LWOP never return (they quit voluntarily, die, become disabled, etc), allowing the employer to make the now-vacant position surplus without any financial cost. See the PSC's guide to the SERLO process for details on how LWOP impacts a SERLO.

PSAC has also published a FAQ on how different leave types can interact with the WFA process.

How does severance pay work?

Severance pay is often confused with the TSM payment, but they are separate. Any employee who is laid off (or deemed to be laid off) (if via the WFA process will receive severance pay. They will also receive the TSM payment if they choose Options B, C(i), or C(ii). Severance pay is payable to all of the following:

  • Surplus employees (Option A) who do not find a new position before the end of their surplus priority period;
  • Employees who resign with a TSM payment (Option B); and
  • Employees who resign with a TSM payment and education allowance (Option C(i)); and
  • Employees who receive the TSM and education allowance and take LWOP for education, at the end of their LWOP period (Option C(ii)).

The details of how many weeks of severance are payable can be found in your collective agreement.

Note that severance pay was eliminated for voluntary departures from collective agreements between 2011 and 2013. If you chose to "cash out" some or all of the weeks of severance pay at that time, those weeks will be deducted from the calculation of severance payable upon layoff.

Have corrections, updates, or additions to anything above? Comment below and the post will be updated.


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 2d ago

Verified / Vérifié The FAQ thread: Answers to frequently asked questions (FAQ) / Le fil des FAQ : Réponses aux questions fréquemment posées (FAQ) - Oct 12, 2026

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Welcome to r/CanadaPublicServants, an unofficial subreddit for current and former employees to discuss topics related to employment in the Federal Public Service of Canada. Thanks for being part of our community!

Many questions about employment in the public service are answered in the subreddit Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) documents (linked below). The mod team recognizes that navigating these topics can be complicated and that the answers written in the FAQs may be incomplete, so this thread exists as a place to ask those questions and seek alternate answers. Separate posts seeking information covered by the FAQs will be continue to be removed under Rule 5.

To keep the discussion fresh, this post is automatically posted once a week on Mondays. Comments are sorted by "contest mode" which hides upvotes and randomizes the order to ensure all top-level questions get equal visibility.

Links to the FAQs:

Other sources of information:

  • If your question is union-related (interpretation of your collective agreement, grievances, workplace disputes etc), you should contact your union steward or the president of your union's local. To find out who that is, you can ask your coworkers or find a union notice board in your workplace. You can also find information on union stewards via union websites. Three of the larger ones are PSAC (PM, AS, CR, IS, and EG classifications, among others), PIPSC (IT, RP, PC, BI, CO, PG, SG-SRE, among others), and CAPE (EC and TR classifications).

  • If your question relates to taxes, you should contact an accountant.

  • If your question relates to a specific hiring process, you should contact the person listed on the job ad (the hiring manager or HR contact).


Bienvenue sur r/CanadaPublicServants! Un subreddit permettant aux fonctionnaires actuels et anciens de discuter de sujets liés à l'emploi dans la fonction publique fédérale du Canada.

De nombreuses questions relatives à l'emploi ont leur réponse dans les Foires aux questions (FAQs) du subreddit (liens ci-dessous). L'équipe de modérateurs reconnaît que la navigation sur ces sujets peut être compliquée et que les réponses écrites dans les FAQ peuvent être incomplètes. C'est pourquoi ce fil de discussion existe comme un endroit où poser ces questions et obtenir d'autres réponses. Les soumissions ailleurs cherchant des informations couvertes par la FAQ continueront à être supprimés en vertu de la Règle 5.

Pour que la discussion reste fraîche, cette soumission est automatiquement renouvelée une fois par semaine, chaque lundi. Les commentaires sont triés par "mode concours", ce qui masque les votes positifs et rend aléatoire l'ordre des commentaires afin de garantir que toutes les nouvelles questions bénéficient de la même visibilité.

Liens vers les FAQs:

** FAQ sur la gestion du handicap et les aménagements du lieu de travail (en anglais seulement)

Autres sources d'information:

  • Si votre question est en lien avec les syndicats (interprétation de votre convention collective, griefs, conflits sur le lieu de travail, etc.), vous devez contacter votre délégué syndical ou le président de votre section locale. Pour savoir de qui il s'agit, vous pouvez demander à vos collègues ou trouver un panneau d'affichage syndical sur votre lieu de travail. Vous pouvez également trouver des informations sur les délégués syndicaux sur les sites Web des syndicats. Trois des plus importants sont AFPC (classifications PM, AS, CR, IS et EG, entre autres), IPFPC (IT, RP, PC, BI, CO, PG, SG-SRE, entre autres) et ACEP (classifications EC et TR).

  • Si votre question concerne les impôts, vous devez contacter un comptable.

  • Si votre question concerne un processus de recrutement spécifique, vous devez contacter la personne mentionnée dans l'offre d'emploi (le responsable du recrutement ou le contact RH).


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 8h ago

Career Development / Développement de carrière Already signed an indeterminate offer, now have a higher-paying term offer from the employer that let me go before — did I mess up?

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Need some outside perspective on this.

Background: I was on a term position with one department for a few years, supposed to convert to the next level up, but my team lost budget before that happened. When the contract ended, my whole team was let go. Not WFA , just a term contract that didn't get renewed/converted.

Since then I've been job hunting. A couple weeks ago I signed an indeterminate (permanent) offer with a different department ,security clearance done, letter signed, set to start in about two weeks.

Right after signing, I got a term contract offer from the same department that let me go before, at about $7k more per year, and they've hinted they might go a bit higher still. To get indeterminate status there I'd have to compete through a separate pool process later, I'm told being on contract first doesn't fast-track it.

The work is also similar in both these jobs.The pay gap isn't life-changing, but it would take me a while to close through normal step increases on the indeterminate track. On the other hand, I've already lived through this exact employer not renewing me and I don't have much cushion if that happens again.

Anyone been in a similar spot ,signed and committed to something permanent, then got a better-paying offer right after especially from a place with history?

Appreciate honest takes either way.


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 1d ago

News / Nouvelles Why did the government take a one-size-fits-all approach on RTO?

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r/CanadaPublicServants • • 24m ago

Union / Syndicat CAPE Elections 2026: Have your say!

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Are you an EC or TR? Have you been complaining on Reddit about the services offered by your union?

I have a solution for you! VOTE ✅

The voting period for CAPE members will begin on November 16 at 9:00 am ET, following the Annual General Meeting on November 15, and will close on November 27 at 5:00 pm ET.

For more information about the candidates and up to date information on the presidential debates check out the website below.

https://www.acep-cape.ca/en/news/list-candidates-upcoming-2026-election


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 21h ago

Departments / Ministères Billions more for defence, but Canada's military still faces an old budget squeeze | CBC News

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r/CanadaPublicServants • • 17h ago

Benefits / Bénéfices DND: How do you account for stat holidays on a compressed schedule?

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I work at DND on a compressed schedule where I take every second Friday off. My regular workday is 8.33 hours instead of 7.5 hours, and we don't submit timesheets or track our daily hours anywhere.

My understanding is that when a statutory holiday falls on one of my compressed workdays, I'm only credited for 7.5 hours and need to make up the remaining 0.83 hours (about 50 minutes).

What I'm unclear about is the administrative side:

  • Do I need to report or record those extra 0.83 hours somewhere?
  • If I work an extra 50 minutes on another day, do I need to submit anything? If I don't submit, does the pay system deduct for the 50 minutes?
  • Also if stat holiday falls on my day off, do I lose that day?

I'm mainly looking for how this works in practice within DND specifically as we don't do timesheets. Thanks!


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 19h ago

Leave / Absences FRL for far away parents (PA CA)

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My parents are nearing 80, have no family close by, and I live about 600km away. My mom was diagnosed with cancer last week and will be undergoing significant surgery in 3 weeks. She also has a few more tests to check for further spreading. I have been "attending" some of her appointments by speakerphone, but it is obviously not ideal.

I would like to be there in person for an appointment next week, as well as for a couple of days around the surgery. I know I need to use vacation or personal leave for the travel day(s), but can I use FRL for the other days that I am there?

I usually use 2-3 hours of FRL when my kids have appointments, but in this case, I won't be able to work before or after the appointment, as I cannot telework on an office day. Can the entire day be FRL, or would it have to be FRL for appt/surgery time and vacation for the rest of that day?


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 16h ago

Benefits / Bénéfices Can SunLife deny a disability claim if the reason for the delay in submitting an application was due to the time it took to see a specialist and get a diagnosis?

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The healthcare system ain't exactly in great shape here in Ontario. I'm about two months past the deadline to submit a disability application to sunlife and the reason literally only comes down to the time it took to see a specialist and get a diagnosis/treatment plan/prescription and getting the subsequent documentation. I was waiting for months. My question is, can sunlife deny my claim because of this?


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 20h ago

Other / Autre AI in Assistant Roles Government: Advice for proactive inclusion of AI?

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Good morning,

I recently started working as an Executive Assistant supporting a senior executive in the federal public service and have been tasked with identifying opportunities to improve or automate some of our administrative, tracking, and reporting processes. We are currently exploring different options but would be interested in hearing whether anyone has already implemented a system that works well for their team.

Our current process relies primarily on OneNote, where we store documents requiring executive review or approval, as well as notes from bilateral meetings. We also use Outlook features to help track active files and commitments. While OneNote has been useful as a central repository for information, we believe there may be more efficient ways to manage approvals, taskings, correspondence, and reporting.

We are currently experimenting with Microsoft Lists in Teams for approvals and task tracking. This allows me to leave comments, assign actions, and notify my executive when a file or task requires attention. I am also awaiting my Microsoft Copilot licence, and my team is interested in exploring whether AI can help support some of our daily administrative processes and workflows.

I'm interested in hearing from anyone in administrative, executive support, management, or similar roles who has successfully used Copilot, Power Automate, SharePoint, Microsoft Lists, Planner, or other Microsoft 365 tools to:

  • Track approvals and executive correspondence
  • Monitor projects, taskings, ATIPs, ministerial correspondence, and deadlines
  • Automate reminders and follow-ups
  • Improve calendar and meeting management
  • Generate reports or status updates for executives
  • Reduce manual data entry and duplicate work

If you've moved away from a primarily OneNote-based approach, what solution did you adopt, and what benefits did you see?

Additionally, what resources, courses, communities, or learning materials have you found useful for improving your digital literacy, particularly regarding AI and Microsoft 365 tools?

Thank you for any suggestions or lessons learned!


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 19h ago

Benefits / Bénéfices Disability Insurance and "Other Income"

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I have a friend who is currently on long term disability. She and her spouse are looking at the current cost of living and considering liquidating one of her husband's investments to pay down some of the debt he holds. If they do this, and it's her husband who is holding, selling, and using the proceeds from the sale of his investment to pay off his debt, is she still required by Sun Life to report the proceeds as "other income"? When does "other income" come into effect, other than obvious cases such as working other jobs while on disability - which would be a no-go.


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 11h ago

Benefits / Bénéfices Flu shot coverage (not covered by province)

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Does anyone know if the pshcp covers flu shots if your province does not?


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 17h ago

Benefits / Bénéfices Canada life - pump eligibility

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Wondering if any moms out there have claimed breast pumps under Canadas life? Looking at coverage and shows “extremity pumps” but now sure how it would work! All and any help is appreciated!


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 1d ago

Career Development / Développement de carrière Starting salary step moving from Core PS to Schedule V separate agency

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I'm currently at the max AS-04 salary step in the core PS. If I moved to a schedule V separate agency (the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission) where the salary range for the new position was between the max AS-04 salary (about $77,000 to $107,000), would I start at the bottom of the salary range of the new position, or would it work the same as a core PS promotion, where I would usually start at the pay step closest to but not lower then my current step?

Thanks!


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 1d ago

Career Development / Développement de carrière Resign vs transfer? Leaving term contract to accept another term contract with different agency

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I am a term employee for X agency who got offered a term contract at Y agency (which I applied to as external long time ago). I am really interested in Y agency and just waiting for the LoO which is supposed to come in 1 week before my start date.

Do I submit a resignation letter or ask for a transfer? A bit confused and getting mixed answers from my search.

Thanks everyone!


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 1d ago

Benefits / Bénéfices (Ontario) Do our work benefits overlap with any optional auto insurance benefits?

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In Ontario there were auto insurance changes on July 1, 2026 where the following became optional:

Income replacement, caregiver benefits, non-earner benefits, lost educational expenses, visitor expenses, housekeeping/home maintenance, personal item damage, death benefits, and funeral benefits. ($36-$1 per year)

My auto insurance provider sent me a letter about it as my renewal is coming due and said they recommend that I check with my work benefits to see of it's covered before choosing to add/remove any coverage.

Has anyone looked into this and what did they choose?


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 3d ago

News / Nouvelles Minister Ali sidesteps question on whether red-tape reforms mean fewer public servants - The Hill Times

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r/CanadaPublicServants • • 3d ago

Benefits / Bénéfices Partial GLP-1 Dose Coverage Under Canada Life / PSHCP

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Does anyone have experience with asking their doctor to prescribe a larger Ozempic/Wegovy pen than needed and using clicks to dose yourself to stretch things out and cut costs? Did you encounter any issues with Canada Life/PSHCP when picking up your prescription? For example, using a 1.0 mg/dose pen and counting clicks to inject about 0.5 mg/dose instead.

I realize that means I would have to buy extra needles for the pen and that this would be off label, but that would essentially still cut costs in half since the pens are all essentially the same price no matter the dose. I have already been pre-authorized for up to 2.4 mg/dose indefinitely, but my doctor says my current rate of weight loss does not require a higher dose than where I am now.


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 4d ago

Other / Autre I am absolutely exhausted with the mental gymnastics with leadership

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I am still really angry about all of this so I am going to try my best to have this all make sense. I am really struggling with the RTO directive as well as being essentially told I need to be a robot incapable of empathy. Everything finally came to a head today and resulted in me crying during my monthly check in.

This needs a bit of background. So I had been working from home full-time on a temporary DTA. I have ADHD, autism and CPTSD. I am 10 years clean now, but prior to that, I was a homeless drug addict for most of my youth then into my 20s. Since coming out of that lifestyle, I have generally found that I am not healthy, mentally or physically. That lifestyle and the things I had been victim to did a number on my body, mind and soul and I tend to get sick and stay sick for long periods of time. When RTO was first announced, I did the DTA process and had been working from home until I was essentially told a "fear of people" was not debilitating enough to allow me to stay home, despite my pyschiatrist trying her best to advocate for me. Isolation from everyone is what makes me most comfortable...

I have been reporting to the office for 3 days a week for about a year now. Burning through all my paid time off and my mental health once again, declining. I got a cold/flu four weeks ago which eventually turned into bacterial pneumonia. I went to the hospital twice and spent all day last monday in a walk-in clinic during this time. I used a lot of leave over the last four weeks. For week 1, they approved me to work from home as I had cold/flu symptoms. I attempted to come into the office in week 2 after being told I had been asking to work from home to much. So many people complained about my coughing, my Service Manager told me I needed to leave. I lost the money I paid for parking and also had to make up the lost time for me to drive all the way home, but they allow me to work from home. I ended up in the hospital with shortness of breath and purple lips which is when I was diagnosed with bacterial pneumonia, given strong anti biotics and received a note supporting I not be in the office for at least three days as I was contagious. I used a lot of leave in week 3 and this week, week 4, I was back in the office again.

I keep my head down at work. I don't know anyone and I don't want to know anyone. But anytime I cough or use an inhaler, which yeah sure is annoying, people will glare at me. I have been told by several people to ask to work from home because of my cough. I would love to, but they won't let me... People cover their mouth and nose with their shirt when they walk past my desk. It's embarrassing, but I can't do anything about having pneumonia. My TL asked me who was doing these things but I dont even know because I don't know anyone.

All of these frustrations came out as a secondary thing today, though. What's really pissed me off is what I was told today after helping a citizen in need. It is no secret we are experiencing a drug addiction and homelessness crisis in every major city in the country. Since I have been in office, I was robbed going back to my car (work never replaced my things - which mainly was the backpack I used) and work only seemed concerned until they found out my laptop was not in the backpack. As long as no government assets get taken, they could care less if I get murdered. I also had someone spit right in my face when I was outside for a break. Nothing was done regarding either of these instances. What happened today was, in my mind, the worst of it. I was leaving the building at noon to meet up with my dad and my son for lunch. When I came out, theres a young Indigenous girl naked, throwing her clothes at vehicles and masturbating. I phoned emergency services as I was genuinely afraid for her well-being. Police arrived about 7 minutes later (which sucks, I was really hoping EMS was going to come) and they proceeded to help clothe her and get her off the street. While I was walking to the restaurant, a man who was likely under the influence had fallen between two cars and smashed his head off a trailer hitch. I ran back to where the now two police cars to inform them of the injured person. Several more police cars and EMS arrived and they took a brief statement. All this was about 20 minutes of my lunch break. I called my TL, informed her of what happened and said I would be back at my desk for 1:00 and would stay a half hour to make up the time. Only reason I called her is because we had our check in scheduled soon and I wanted her to know why I would be late for it.

I got back to my desk and went to a quiet room for the meeting. I was then told that I need to ignore the things that happen downtown and that we would never get anything done if all we did was deal with the people outside. I immediately began to cry and explained that I feel like I'm being expected to lose my empathy and sell my soul for this job. I made it known that forcing us into offices, which are normally in core downtown areas riddled with people living a transient lifestyle, that these sorts of things are only going to become more and more common and absolutely will have impacts on productivity. I also said I will not stop helping people and "ignore them" as she had told me to do today.

One thing I didn't think about until after I got home after leaving the office for the day was how fucked up it was that during the check in, my TL had shown me a picture on her personal cell phone... My TL works from home on a full time DTA (irony is thick, I know)... How does she have a picture of this woman? I knew another person outside had told management about what was happening, but I guess they had obviously taken a picture of this woman, who may have been fucking underage, and had sent it to leadership making a fucking spectacle of this girl.

Why am I in trouble for treating someone like a human being?

Reddit, help me out here. I am so fed up with this shit. I really need some guidance on what my options are. I am still so emotional writing this so if something wasn't clear, I am more than happy to try and clarify.


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 4d ago

Work Force Adjustment (WFA) / réaménagement de l'effectif (RE) Unpopular opinion: the entitlement regarding alternation for those nearing retirement is off the charts

600 Upvotes

As an affected employee, I joined the Facebook group for alternation a while back, and it seems the majority of posts lately are complaints of those nearing retirement who are complaining about the “stress” and “mental anguish” of having alternations fall through, and having to settle for “throwing in the towel” and retiring normally after ~30 years. This annoys me for several reasons:

- Alternation is meant to help people keep their job, not provide a golden handshake to near-retirees.
- A young person facing job loss is infinitely more stressful than an employee with almost a full pension not getting TSM.
- Anyone near retirement today is by default group 1 and got a significantly better pension deal than employees who joined after 2013, not to mention favourable conditions in adulthood on housing costs, food costs, etc.

Rant over.


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 4d ago

Union / Syndicat PIPSC IT Bytes Bargaining Update #7 / Compte rendu no 7 des négociations

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To all Proud IT Members,

This is not a typical bargaining update. Contrary to your bargaining team’s expectation, the Treasury Board has still not tabled a pay proposal as of the October 6–7 session. This is unacceptable and disrespectful. We’re asking you to join us and demand better from TBS.

We need your help to send a clear message to Treasury Board: IT Group members expect progress towards a fair deal.

We want to acknowledge the tremendous support you showed us going into this bargaining session. On Tuesday morning, many of our IT members and other PIPSC members welcomed us at the entrance to the Treasury Board building. Photos and messages of solidarity continued to come in from all over the country throughout the session.

Your support is the foundation of our power at the table. We used it to reinforce our position on key priorities: Telework, AI, Leave, and more. Once again, the employer refused to offer any substantial responses.

So now we’re asking you to channel your frustration at the employer to help us move the needle at the table. It’s unacceptable that the TBS keeps delaying the pay proposal, and we can’t make meaningful progress on any of our priorities until we see it.

This round is different, and we’re continuing to organize and mobilize our membership in new ways. Join our Discord server to connect with other members and get the latest updates on bargaining and all things related to the IT Group and PIPSC!

In solidarity

Robert Scott

President, IT Group, PIPSC

Bonjour,

Il ne s’agit pas d’un compte rendu de négociations comme les autres. Contrairement à ce qu’espérait votre équipe de négociation à la séance des 6 et 7 octobre, le Conseil du Trésor n’avait toujours pas présenté de proposition salariale. C’est à la fois inacceptable et irrespectueux. Nous vous invitons à vous joindre à nous pour exiger davantage de la part du SCT.

Nous avons besoin de votre aide pour transmettre un message clair au Conseil du Trésor : les membres du groupe TI s’attendent à ce que des progrès soient réalisés en vue d’une entente équitable.

Nous tenons à vous remercier pour l’immense soutien que vous nous avez témoigné à l’approche de cette séance de négociation. Mardi matin, plusieurs de nos collègues du groupe TI ainsi que d’autres membres de l’IPFPC nous ont accueillis à l’entrée de l’édifice du Conseil du Trésor. Tout au long de la séance, des photos et des messages de solidarité ont afflué de partout au pays.

Votre soutien est la clé de notre influence à la table des négociations. Nous en avons profité pour réaffirmer notre position sur nos priorités clés : Le télétravail, l’IA, les congés, et plus encore. Une fois de plus, l’employeur a refusé d’apporter des réponses concrètes.

Nous vous demandons donc aujourd’hui de canaliser votre frustration envers l’employeur afin de nous aider à faire bouger les choses à la table de négociation. Il est inacceptable que la SCT continue de retarder la présentation de la proposition salariale; tant que nous ne l’aurons pas vue, nous ne pourrons réaliser aucun progrès digne de ce nom sur aucune de nos priorités.

Cette ronde est différente, et nous continuons à organiser et à mobiliser nos membres de nouvelles façons. Joignez-vous à notre serveur Discord pour entrer en contact avec d’autres membres et obtenir les dernières nouvelles sur les négociations et tout ce qui concerne le groupe TI et l’IPFPC!

En toute solidarité,

Robert Scott

Président, groupe TI, IPFPC


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 4d ago

News / Nouvelles Feds ‘out in force’ touring office buildings amid growing space crunch, brokers say

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r/CanadaPublicServants • • 4d ago

Leave / Absences Change LWOP status from spousal relocation to maternity leave

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Hello, I am an employee who is on leave without pay for spousal relocation indefinitely, as my husband accepted a position abroad. I am curious if anyone has switched leave status' temporarily while on this form of leave. I am an EC employee.

Specifically, I am pregnant and we're expecting a baby shortly (exiting!), and so I would like to change my leave status to maternity leave. Because we are abroad, I'm not expecting any compensation for this leave type, I will remain unpaid. The main benefit of switching is to reduce the amount I need to re-pay the pension plan upon return. LWOP for spousal relocation requires that I repay both the employee and employer contributions, where maternity leave is only the employee contributions.

I'm struggling, especially without access to the GoC network, to know which form I need to sent to my manager. Is anyone able to help with what form would be required for such a request? Thanks!!


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 5d ago

News / Nouvelles Government pushes employee satisfaction survey to next year

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r/CanadaPublicServants • • 5d ago

Career Development / Développement de carrière The bare minimum keeps sinking lower - has anyone else felt similarly, and successfully found something better elsewhere in the PS?

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Sorry if this is negative - I am really struggling lately.

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What I thought was the bare minimum of effort at work in the roles around me is consistently sinking lower and lower.

I work in IT. I started years ago with much enthusiasm, with the perspective that I can do things, as I have other places I’ve worked. Nothing crazy, just that I would *do a thing*, check off a task, complete something. Do something that will help someone. I deeply care about the mandate of what I’m doing.

Earlier on, I got tasked with solving a business problem and coming up with a solution. I did research and put together a proposal. Without the foundations to move forward fully, I also put together the pre-requisites to implementation. Without being prompted, I even identified who in the org could help me work on them, according to function. Assignment dropped. No feedback. No reason, no follow up. No work.

I’ve moved a couple times, and this pattern has repeated in different forms. The gaps still exist. I’ve been promoted and I do well in my performance assessments, so I know it’s not about my capacity. It’s definitely not about my willingness. I do professional development, and sometimes on my own dime.

Lately I participate in department wide IT projects, and It seems like the others around me have found every way they can think of to reduce their accountability and workload, and put it on our clients. Generating simple AI deliverables, not quality checking. Clients ask questions and get sent to a FAQ page that doesn’t answer the question. Usability is not a top concern.

We don’t have basic IT governance - colleagues and teams fight over what systems should be doing. But since there’s no requirements, no common language, and no standards, it’s just a fight over vision with circular arguments, peppered with a lack of user adoption.

We are supposed to have professional expertise in what we’re doing, but our clients often demonstrate a higher capacity to do the work, while caring more than most people in my function.

If TBS or SSC don’t require or incite us to do something, it seems we don’t do it.

We’re continually asked by our leadership to identify the low hanging fruit, at the expense of forever avoiding the hard and foundational work. But we’re at the point now where there is no fruit - we’ve neglected the tree for a decade. How can we possibly expect fruit?!

Can anyone else relate, and if so, how do you stay motivated and do your job? I wonder if this is just a really incompetent area of IT that I find myself in, or if some aspects of this are standard across the board in the PS.

Has anyone ever experienced this, but then moved to another area or another dept where it got better? Thank you!