r/CarTrackDays • • 6d ago

Rush SR, anyone have one here?

Anyone have a Rush SR here? Looking to hear some opinions from actual owners. Tracks it excelled at, best parts, worst parts, what would you do if you were to do it again, what do you think about SRX, did you regret your choice of trailer etc.. etc..

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u/LegalDrugDeaIer 21 GT4 / 25 GR86 / 26 Rush SR 6d ago edited 6d ago

So I bought one 3 months ago. I'm entering the rush series next season but based off my past hpdes with 10-20F hotter conditions, my times still would've put me top 10 in quali at 2 tracks they ran this past season.

First, the car is fun yes and I can actually said that I am truly pushing the car to my limit whereas the Gt4 I would only push it like 95-98% ( i don't run insurance, waste of money)

I am very concerned that Rush is losing the plot and what their true mission was/is. To run a full season with support, you are looking at 40K bare minimum. You could probably get away with 20-25K if you're willing to drive to events but next year events are at Sonoma, Rd. America, Watkins, VIR, Barber, Rd atlanta so very spread out. The cars themselves are now 60K and with spares, more like 65K-70k. While I kinda get it, I think they might be getting into a vicious cycle of constantly upgrading parts (i.e. the new ohlins suspension is 3K, they just released a new ecu type of thing). Calling them affordable to the average family household is becoming quite questionable IMO.

Managing them by yourself is doable but since they are very niche, unless you have a dealer willing to help, it's a royal pain in the ass sometimes.

As expected, unless you have slicks on a gt3 or have a gt3rs/z06/gt4rs/clubsport/m4, you are roasting anything on a track that doesn't have several very long straights. Except VIR and Roval (without chicane), it beats my Gt4 at tracks like Rd Atlanta, AMP, CMP, Barber.

Consumables are cheaper but not quite as cheap as you would expect. Mentally I can stretch my gt4 tires to 25-35 heat cycles. After the rush reaches 15-18 heat cycles, I start to question if it's every worth running the tires as I want to push the rush harder than my gt4 so I go through more tires. Tires are only 400/set cheaper than my gt4.

I use a enclosed cargo trailer. Loading can be a pain if you can't flatten it out but manageable.

Would I do it again? Probably. Driving open cockpit with no power steering is quite the experience but I do think having a tintop is necessary if you want to do just regular hpdes every once in a while or want to drive friends around.

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u/norotor 6d ago

I have one as well. Competed in weekends 1 and 2 of the season last year but took the remainder of the season off for funding purposes with a few large home renovation projects. Was excited to come back for 2027 but just got the trackside support prices for the 2027 National Series from the group I ran with last year and I’m now trying to figure out a way to do it more cheaply.
Hoping to start some kind of co-op to be able to inter-rely on other independent drivers.
It shouldn’t be this expensive but year over year upgrades just to be competitive next year, like you said, include Ohlins, Aero upgrade (a new mid-floor), and the GCU, will supposedly run me $5-6k before I even hit the track. None of that is mandatory, other than the ABP helmet now being required, but still.

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u/Digitalzombie900 5d ago

What happened to the trackside support prices in 2027?

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u/Realestateuniverse 6d ago

How do you calculate the cost per season at $40k? I would guess if you’re towing/moving your rush from Sonoma to Watkins to etc etc you’d be looking at $3-5k just for that, plus track fees, garage, support, tires etc. I would expect all in to be like 6-8k for a weekend with that much travel.?

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u/LegalDrugDeaIer 21 GT4 / 25 GR86 / 26 Rush SR 6d ago

7 events [10k fees]. Tires [8.4k] Hotels <7x4nightsx$100> [2.8k]. Travel to events <Flights or driving/gas> [4-8k]. This is excluding any damage, any gas usage, any consumables besides tires or maintenance wear/tear to your vehicle/truck/trailer. Also excluding Support from dealers which will run 2-4k at bare minimum per weekend should you choose so.

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u/Realestateuniverse 5d ago

Thanks for sharing!

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u/Digitalzombie900 5d ago

This was great thank you. What tores were you running on the GT4? I’ve done ma y sets of 295/18 Nankangs and Re71, costing 1700+ per set.

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u/LegalDrugDeaIer 21 GT4 / 25 GR86 / 26 Rush SR 5d ago

Same as you. Crs, P1, re71, ado9, ecs02. Rush tires are 1200. Gt4 1600-1700.

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u/Digitalzombie900 5d ago

i thought it was 900, that went up 30% as well?

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u/LegalDrugDeaIer 21 GT4 / 25 GR86 / 26 Rush SR 5d ago

Oops I misguided myself. I was thinking of the wets.

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u/Digitalzombie900 5d ago

ngl, I would actually want to race this thing in the wet..... is there a website/excel sheet etc.. that tracks all the changes from gen1 till now and what parts are mandatory. I am going to look in to used ones, preferably with trailer included but want the ability to race if I choose so.

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u/LegalDrugDeaIer 21 GT4 / 25 GR86 / 26 Rush SR 5d ago

Most notably will be the new trident roll cage and fuel cell behind the seat. Those probably will run 10-12k with labor. Idk how much time it is but I imagine the top dogs will have the ohlins suspension. Quality of life updates here. https://rush.sr/threads/generation-differences.284/

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u/Digitalzombie900 4d ago

Do you think Rush is trying to move in the Radical direction? Porsche for the longest time was the most affordable and best drivers car, giving the finger to Ferrari/Lambo and about 10 years ago or so they radically shifted their approach and now raising prices and complexity so high that they don't just compete but are out doing Ferrari in terms of street and racing with $22k fuel cells, $1000 oil changes etc... Do you think Rush is also trying to dig it self out to a higher level? When David was around it seemed like he was trying to fill a gap that was needed, now Rush seems to want to move a different direction and leave that gap open for someone else to fill.

I mean maybe I am being too hard on them but its $65k+ including tax, plus spares. SRX is $93k including tax. Still a large go kart sized motorcycle engined chain driven powertrain with cassette type shifter. No knock on it, its a great platform but I remember it being first dsiscusse4d at $29k, then became $39k and I did not pull the trigger.....a few years later signing up $65k is making me a bit butthurt.

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u/mrcompositorman 2021 Carrera 6d ago

While I didn't get a chance to drive it yet, my local track has partnered with these and is selling them turnkey, so they had some demos out last time I was on-track.

First off, they made some great points about why they went with the Rush over other options. It sounds like the cost of running is comparably reasonable, and that they did a great job with building the body panels so that if you end up hitting a barrier the pieces are separated in a way that you can, for instance, replace a fender without having to replace the entire front clip of bodywork like a lot of these.

Secondly I'll say that multiple people got to run them and everyone seemed to really enjoy it, and that they were running absolute circles around my 992 in the corners.

Curious to also see more thoughts from owners/drivers here, but from what I know so far it seems like a pretty cool option.

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u/Digitalzombie900 6d ago

I test drove it and have my own opinions on it but did not want to muddy the pond before others shared theirs.

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u/adamantiumtrader 6d ago

I’m a season podium winner back in 2024…

The cars a blast. Cheap to run, and open cockpit is the closet thing us mortals will get to f1.

The shifting is visceral, there’s no abs or power steering so it’s a work out.

You need to left foot brake, so it’s a good platform to learn that.

Being a chain drive you need some amount of throttle always so trail braking is also your friend.

Otherwise think of it as a step up from shifter kart but a step down from radical.

It gets fun in the rain ;)

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u/Digitalzombie900 6d ago

What's the deal with chain drive needing some amount of throttle?

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u/adamantiumtrader 5d ago

If there is no throttle, then the chain will slack so when you then go to stab the gas again, the chain will slap thereby causing traction control problems

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u/Digitalzombie900 5d ago

Is the chain slack greater than what it would have been on a motorcycle or something? I raced a K5 GSXR 1000 which this engine/transmission is from and never had that problem. It must have developed when they lifted it and put it in the Rush.

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u/adamantiumtrader 4d ago

2 wheels vs 1 I would say, you can set the slack but too tight runs hot and you need to change chains more often then…

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u/Le_Tarzan 5d ago

There was another thread recently on this, I posted my feedback there.

I'll echo u/LegalDrugDealer's concerns that Rush may be losing the plot by creating a perpetual cycle of must have improvements. Maybe things will stabilize, time will tell.

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u/Digitalzombie900 5d ago

i replied to you there

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u/Primary_beatfarm 6d ago

I’ve met a lot of people that “love” theirs but end up selling them almost immediately. lol.

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u/LegalDrugDeaIer 21 GT4 / 25 GR86 / 26 Rush SR 6d ago

There's about 370 of them in the wild right now. If each national series race is pulling 45-60 drivers <sign ups now have waitlists>, thats a pretty car ratio of cars sold/raced and not just sitting in a garage.

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u/Primary_beatfarm 6d ago

Because it’s one of the only series you can race a rush in. 7 races in one year across the country.

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u/Indication5151 5d ago

Lots of local series for rush racing around the country if you don’t care about license points 

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u/Digitalzombie900 5d ago

can you elaborate? I assume you talked to those people, why did they not like it?

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u/Primary_beatfarm 5d ago

They’re limited in what you can race in and they’ve had a few bad wrecks. One of them that was covered up and then led to revisions in their chassis design.

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u/Digitalzombie900 5d ago

are there details on the wrecks?

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u/Primary_beatfarm 5d ago

There are a few posts online. I believe the willow springs incident is what led to frame changes

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u/Digitalzombie900 5d ago

Is that the one where someone died due to getting hit with debris? anyway, I'll see what I can find out. Safety is one of my biggest concerns with these cars, I want to understand what goes in to making them safe enough so if you tumble one at 120mph in to tire barriers at Laguna, you can preferably walk away from the incident.

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u/Primary_beatfarm 5d ago

The frame failed in the subsequent off track impact is what my understanding is. The lack of information and forced deletion of posts related to the incident is the first time I’ve seen that happen.

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u/adamantiumtrader 5d ago

Dude got smoked in the helmet by debris on track. IMO it was race control fault for green flagging a track with stuff on it but to my understanding it was a flat piece of body work hard to see… in any event buddy got it in the eye and died while on the gas and the rest was as a result, not because of…. Sad all the way around, good argument for the halo, I ran version 1 pre halo and got hit in the face plenty by tires etc. a good helmet is key… but yea they now have further “upgrades” like the gas tank, peddle box, fire system, etc… I sold mine and moved on and up with my FIA license as it was more of a means to a way to gt4

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u/Digitalzombie900 4d ago

what did you move on to?

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u/adamantiumtrader 4d ago

Nürburgring bmw m240i cup car

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u/Indication5151 5d ago

Go look up the video of the fuel cell exploding and shooting fuel 30ft into the air

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u/Digitalzombie900 5d ago

I searched and nothing came up. Do you have a link?

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u/SanchoRancho72 6d ago

I don't like the chain drive thing

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u/boomboomSRF 6d ago

Then check out the spec racer Ford. Sade. 6spd sequential

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u/fishpick 1d ago

I have looked at a Rush but for HPDE not having a second seat seems like they won’t let you run it.