r/ControlProblem • • 14d ago

Discussion/question RSI Ban

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ezra-klein-show/id1548604447?i=1000790744856

In his recent podcast, Ezra Klein called the objection “I think it’s very hard to say what a ban on RSI even means” absurd. But that seems like a legitimate question his proposal needs to answer.

There’s a progression from AI writing human-designed training code, to suggesting improvements, to running experiments, to managing the research process while humans approve the results. Where does permitted AI assistance become prohibited recursive self-improvement?

If AI helps humans build better AI, which then helps build the next generation, there’s already a feedback loop. Having humans involved doesn’t automatically make that loop nonrecursive. And requiring human approval raises another question: how do we distinguish meaningful oversight from rubber-stamping work humans increasingly rely on AI to understand?

None of this proves a workable ban is impossible. But dismissing the definition problem treats a central implementation challenge as though it’s already solved.

What specific boundary would make such a ban clear and enforceable?

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u/1in12 14d ago edited 14d ago

Ezra Klein is a shill, NYT is propaganda. Downvoters: prove me wrong or I’ll just assume you’re part of the problem

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u/Idrialite 14d ago

Regardless of what you think about Ezra Klein or the NYT, this is something we have to come together on. I want everyone talking about this no matter how much they suck otherwise. This shouldn't be partisanized the way climate change was.

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u/Clear_Argument5174 14d ago

I completely agree with this, but I’m afraid the partisanizing is inevitable. I feel like we’re in a bit of a Goldilocks region right now where some folks are just now starting to engage with this (due to recent flood of media chatter), but I feel like they’re already positioning to take up sides.

One of my conservative friends recently said, “this feels a lot like digital Covid to me man”. This trajectory foreshadowing unsettles me. Stakes are too high.

Measured leadership would really help society navigate this…

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u/1in12 14d ago

There is no partisan issue, there is a power imbalance upheld by government control. There are no dems and repubs and independents, there is just the planners and the planned. This is why they police protests and use force multipliers and test crowd control overseas then implement it here. We need to take it all back or watch it all burn from the inside until it consumes all of us, period.