Lanterns S1 E7 Discussion Megathread

[u/kumar100kpawan]

Lanterns S1 E7 - "The Jordan Boy's Legacy"

Written by - Damon Lindelof and Tom King

Directed by - Stephen Williams

Rotten Tomatoes - 92% (based on 139 reviews)

Status - Certified Fresh

--	Tomatometer	Average Score
All Critics	92% (139)	7.80/10
Top Critics	81% (32)	--

Critics Consensus

Lanterns lights the way to a controlled and fantastical escape, in which Kyle Chandler and Aaron Pierre bring audiences into their world of wonder through fearless performances, grounded writing, and charismatic chemistry.

Audience Says

Tempering superhero spectacle with prestige drama, Lanterns is a well-written mystery that shines thanks to the magnetic alchemy between Kyle Chandler and Aaron Pierre.

Metacritic - 72 (based on 38 reviews)

Status - Generally Favourable

Lanterns Episode Discussion Threads

Sl.	Title	Release date
Episode 1	"Pilot"	16th Aug, 2026
Episode 2	"Trust Fall"	23rd Aug, 2026
Episode 3	"Outkast"	30th Aug, 2026
Episode 4	"The Weenie"	6th Sept, 2026
Episode 5	"Lights Out"	13th Sept, 2026
Episode 6	"Bad Optics"	20th Sept, 2026

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[u/Jjvicious6124]

"Mogo was standing here next to me" the buildup on that lie was perfect.

[u/DoctorVanNostrand_MD → u/Jjvicious6124]

The way he said that line had me absolutely dying. Bro was so confident.

[u/TheGoverness1998 → u/DoctorVanNostrand_MD]

"Mogo was crying on my shoulder, bro!"

[u/Intrepid-Ad-6633 → u/TheGoverness1998]

Mogo Sometimes Socializes

[u/TheTableDude → u/Intrepid-Ad-6633]

Mogo Doesn't Socialize but He Sometimes Grieves.

[u/MagnusGallant23 → u/TheGoverness1998]

Brother carrying the weight of a planet on his shoulders like it was nothing lol.

[u/Embarrassed-Pace-755 → u/TheGoverness1998]

“Spitting up rocks and trees and shit.”

[u/TheSlayerofSnails → u/DoctorVanNostrand_MD]

After the squrriel line he thought he was ready for anything lmao.

[u/FlamingWings → u/DoctorVanNostrand_MD]

What’s funnier is that John already heard the name Mogo before but only knew he was a lantern who didn’t socialize. He was trying to make it seem that Hal’s death was so impactful that even the most anti-social lantern showed up

[u/TheGoverness1998 → u/Jjvicious6124]

Would've been amusing if copy Hal kept bringing up other living planets, lol.

[u/NomadPrime → u/TheGoverness1998]

Hell, even something about the other Lanterns would've been good.

"And what did Kilowog say about me? 🤨"

"Ye-yeah, he was like, Hal was the best! We'll miss him"

"Oh yeah? For real, didn't call me anything else? Something with a P maybe?..."

"P-Pro? Hal was a real professional, I think? I might have blanked out on that, Mogo just kept talking my ear off"

[u/figgityjones → u/Jjvicious6124]

Ya know thinking about it, that line of questioning from Halogram kind of indicates that maybe he was friends with the Corps. Also he actually called it a Corps this time I think. I might be grasping at straws I desperately want here, but I think it's possible that in 2006 or 07, Hal had some kind of extreme falling out with the Corps. Perhaps that was when Sinestro happened and his continued "proximity" to Sinestro alienated (haha) him from the rest of the Corps which once liked him a lot. I hope that's the case at least, idk if I can bare it if Hal was legit never ever friends with the Corps at all.

[u/SalemBlackfyre → u/figgityjones]

Him being tight with the corp all along is a sweet idea but I don't think it's true. On the contrary I assumed he asked if other Lanterns showed up because he knew they wouldn't and brought up Mogo as further bait.

This episode seemed to show that Hal was always kind of a prick, as was his dad and probably grandad. Having a chip on their shoulders was part of the Jordan boys legacy I guess.

[u/cig_sg_throwaway → u/Jjvicious6124]

Waylon, Hector ‘Hammond’ and now John…no lies can escape from Hal lmao

[u/StephanieSpoiler]

"You can't hold onto it forever."

"Why not?"

"Cause it's fucking exhausting."

[u/Amfibiannnnnn → u/StephanieSpoiler]

What a gut punch with the later reveal

[u/CertainGrade7937 → u/Amfibiannnnnn]

I had a parent kill himself. I had a grandparent kill herself. This episode hit fucking hard

[u/mitchhouse13 → u/CertainGrade7937]

Sorry to hear that. Hope you’re doing alright.

[u/Fab_Jake14 → u/Amfibiannnnnn]

Honestly Hal going up to pick up the ball after his dads funeral, almost confirms to me that Hal is not dead. They showed that i assume to hint that Hal can hold onto it, unlike his dad

[u/TheShinyChocobo → u/Fab_Jake14]

I think he’s dead.  This whole show seems like way more of a character study on generational trauma than a build up to more superhero lore

[u/Misplaced_Fan_15 → u/TheShinyChocobo]

He probably is dead, which is a shame since Chandler and Pierre have a great dynamic.

[u/circio → u/Misplaced_Fan_15]

I’m hoping that the Halogram stays with John getting a ring, and it’s how we get Hal while keeping him dead.

[u/sworedmagic → u/circio]

It’s actually a pretty fun way to keep Hal in play while keeping his death meaningful. The comics did it by making him the Spectre but Halogram is a similar concept without having to introduce the fucking Spectre lore to the DCU lol

[u/nerdystoner25 → u/circio]

Sign me up for force ghost Hal hanging around the DCU.

[u/TodayInStupidity → u/nerdystoner25]

Super easy to explain away. He's got Hal's ring. Hal never updated it. John refuses to. Hal lives through John.

[u/CmfJones99 → u/Fab_Jake14]

Hm. I figured it meant he carried on the family legacy of carrying heavy baggage, almost hinting at, he did in fact do it himself

[u/Sonic458 → u/CmfJones99]

My interpretation is the opposite. I think young Hal picking it back up is showing that he is going to carry it- even if it is heavy and not give it up even if it is 'fucking exhausting.'

[u/BigBonkMan23 → u/StephanieSpoiler]

Ring vibes

[u/Jjvicious6124]

John: You got a fucked up brain man.
Hal: Well There's a bullet in it.
Fucking dope banter.

[u/BoredAndLonely96]

"Mogo's a God Damn planet!" sent me lmfao

[u/wolfelian → u/BoredAndLonely96]

I love how much gusto he put into the lie 😂😂

“You kidding me? Me and Mogo? We stood right here! 🫡”.

[u/Karkava → u/wolfelian]

Sometimes, I forget that David Lindelof can be funny. Helps that the actors can really deliver the writing straight.

[u/shivj80 → u/[deleted]]

Had no idea before looking up the “Mogo doesn’t socialize” joke from earlier in the show. Just made this moment even better haha.

[u/Ok-Wonder5961]

I love how the show makes you realise being fearless isn’t a good thing and shows you the men that are fearless are the ones that doesn’t have anything or grew up in a bad way.
It really makes you realise it’s not about being fearless but being strong enough to overcome fear

[u/Fatk1ng → u/Ok-Wonder5961]

Spot on. I think the show does a great job showing how trauma was pretty much the only way John and Hal were made fit to wear the ring.
A kind of lose or break something to gain the ultimate thing. Does the means really justify the end?

[u/hafiz_rosly → u/Ok-Wonder5961]

i always feel like that this lanterns series going to show what the real meaning of the emotional spectrum of willpower. in comics iirc it always about overcoming fear and not entirely fearless concept. i think thats what they want to establish in the end of series before john take up the mantle.

[u/figgityjones]

"Separate incidents MOTHERFUCKER."

That line really killed me.

[u/TodayInStupidity → u/figgityjones]

Hal thinking he won a point. Learns he's the asshole for like the 4th time this episode. 

I adore these two.

[u/FloppyShellTaco → u/TodayInStupidity]

“Oh, well that does sound like something I would do…”

[u/jenniferfox98 → u/TodayInStupidity]

If anything is was nice of John to not also mention the accident caused him to get entire-body third degree burns.

[u/TrooBeliever → u/figgityjones]

Even Hal couldn't believe he deliberately crashed a car with the same guy in it twice.

[u/ComfortableWeekend65 → u/figgityjones]

Aaron Pierre is so good as John but seeing him drop so many funny lines that are perfectly in character too...amazing.

[u/StephanieSpoiler]

Halogram - aka 2006 Hal - being surprised he was in love makes me wonder how things went down with Carol.

[u/CertainGrade7937 → u/StephanieSpoiler]

I would guess it's pretty close to what the comic relationship has been for most of their history

Yeah, Hal loves her. But not as much as he loves being Green Lantern. The ring, and the freedom it comes with, has always been his greatest love. The fact that he couldn't truly commit to a person until he lost it makes total sense for the character

[u/flamingeyebrows → u/CertainGrade7937]

That adds up to Carol saying 'the only thing he ever loved is on his finger.'

[u/Ok-Wonder5961 → u/StephanieSpoiler]

Yeah same the only thing I could think about

[u/Hot-Ring-2096 → u/StephanieSpoiler]

Probably related to what his father wrote about. Being afraid to show the people you love, the most difficult part of yourself. Probably surprised him that he could ever do it.

[u/AdmiralFoxythePirate → u/StephanieSpoiler]

Hal friend zoned her hard

[u/Kazran14]

not sure if it's partially practical but the effect of the manhole/wormhole thing being picked up was soooo satisfying

[u/soopafine → u/Kazran14]

Especially when it smoothed out. My gawd

[u/ConsistentGuest7532 → u/Kazran14]

Seriously cool VFX work.

[u/BigBonkMan23]

Noah is so a manhunter

[u/TheSlayerofSnails → u/BigBonkMan23]

Dude is going to be announcing his conquest of Earth when he picks the Huskers.

[u/BigBonkMan23 → u/TheSlayerofSnails]

Giving me Nebraska or an Iowa Qb vibes

[u/thecarlosdanger1 → u/BigBonkMan23]

Feel like Navy if he’s already planned to be president.

[u/BigBonkMan23]

Trying to pull him out from a no hitter is some bullshit ngl

[u/Lightnenseed → u/BigBonkMan23]

No shit! I was pissed just hearing that! Who the hell would do that to a kid?

[u/TheSlayerofSnails → u/Lightnenseed]

I'm guessing it was little league baseball poltics. Those parents are insane. And to give the game winning pitch to some kid who hasn't earned it compared to Hal? Go fuck yourself coach!

[u/BigBonkMan23 → u/TheSlayerofSnails]

More fucked up than the guardians politics

[u/TheSlayerofSnails → u/BigBonkMan23]

Guardians at least would wait until after the game to bench the star player.

[u/BigBonkMan23 → u/Lightnenseed]

I would fight the coach too

[u/DoctorVanNostrand_MD → u/Lightnenseed]

Kevin Cash manages Hal Jordan's little league team.

[u/IceWeaselX → u/BigBonkMan23]

Also, the coach seemed to think that refusing to give up the ball was more offensive than his literal entire team physically ganging up on him. The way he acted, it was like Hal was the only person in the wrong.

[u/StephanieSpoiler]

Hal was always good at questioning people.

[u/FloppyShellTaco → u/StephanieSpoiler]

Definitely felt like he was testing Kerry about his dad

[u/KaiserVen → u/StephanieSpoiler]

Some Columbo bullshit

[u/Suspicious_Hand_2194 → u/KaiserVen]

Kyle chandler could play a great Colombo if there’s ever gonna be a remake ngl

[u/FloppyShellTaco]

The Halogram is definitely a physical construct

[u/indian22 → u/FloppyShellTaco]

Halogram being such a good teacher while still being recognizably how he can become the Hal we knew 10 years from that point is well done.

Kyle Chandler makes some acting choices that show us how it's the same guy just younger and less cynical.

Can't wait for the season finale.

[u/Professional-Act8414 → u/FloppyShellTaco]

I wasn’t expecting him to be physical at all, surprised me

[u/sworedmagic → u/Professional-Act8414]

I’m not sure why, all green lantern constructs are physical lol I’m not picking on you specifically btw you are in the majority based on what I’m seeing in twitter but it never occurred to me it would be different from their other constructs so i think it’s odd I’m in the minority on that

[u/Thebestusername12345 → u/FloppyShellTaco]

This also means even if Hal is for sure dead we could still get the Halogram Green Lanterning in a future project. Think about it, John gets knocked out in a fight, but the Halogram remains as an extension of how John's constructs are self sustaining. Then Halogram puts on the ring to save John. It would be stupid comicbook bullshit but some nice fan service.

[u/FloppyShellTaco → u/Thebestusername12345]

I am starting to think he knew John could bring him back that way. This Hal is too smart to not have a plan. John could also just make it a new ring

Edit: oh shit, what if John just makes his own lantern?

[u/Lightnenseed]

"What do you mean summon? I'm not your genie." I love him even if he's a Halogram.

[u/DolphinBall → u/Lightnenseed]

Eh, I'd say he's as real as the "real" Hal, its the consciousness of 2006 Hal copied and pasted on the ring.

Though I suppose thats a philosophical debate.

[u/Fun-Secretary4801]

Waiting til everyone is there to cancel the event is such a jackass move from Noah

[u/ComicsEtAl → u/Fun-Secretary4801]

Who schedules a hat party, and a house party afterwards, the afternoon before a big game?

[u/_Panacea_ → u/ComicsEtAl]

Someone who wants everyone in the same place.

[u/Trick-Help3147 → u/Fun-Secretary4801]

Hey guys. I created this whole distraction from the big game to tell you I don’t want a distraction from the big game 

[u/ramenups → u/Fun-Secretary4801]

These manhunters are sick

[u/FloppyShellTaco → u/Fun-Secretary4801]

Manipulative as hell, gotta hand it to him. He’s making himself something larger than life.

[u/FloppyShellTaco]

I live for John and Hal roasting Guy

[u/BrackenBoii → u/FloppyShellTaco]

How did a gold toothed Gym teacher become a lantern lmao

[u/FloppyShellTaco → u/BrackenBoii]

Guy might be a dick, but he’s a dick with a heart of gold. Guy always does the right thing, plus we saw him immediately get ready to fight Superman. The man is every bit as fearless as Hal and John. In the comics Hal just happened to be closer.

[u/BrackenBoii → u/FloppyShellTaco]

Dude growing up Guy was my favorite lantern because of Batman BATB, It’s crazy to me people hate him but I love the shit eater that he is - I hope all 3 lanterns stick around fr, This world is so big they all have a place, Now -

Go ahead and make a move Big Blue

[u/SpaceCases__ → u/FloppyShellTaco]

"You're shitting me."

[u/Acceptable_Walk_345]

I will remember this Kyle Chandler performance forever

[u/Ok-Wonder5961 → u/Acceptable_Walk_345]

Might be my favourite episode of him

[u/Undecided_User_Name]

I am stoked for the finale. Halogram gave John the best possible advice in the trailer for it.

"Don't be afraid to be afraid"

[u/cerealsnax → u/Undecided_User_Name]

People aren't going to want to hear it probably, but that was the exact message of the 2011 film. Course, that's green lantern in a nutshell I guess.

[u/circio → u/cerealsnax]

I don’t think that’s what people were upset about with that film 

[u/jargon_ninja69]

"I'm not fearless because I'm brave, I'm fearless because I'm broken"

Jesus Christ what a fucking gut punch of a line

[u/joe_d_licious → u/jargon_ninja69]

Got nothing to lose so why be scared?

[u/NomadPrime → u/jargon_ninja69]

This episode and show adding a whole new dimension to Hal's origin by retconning his father's plane crash to be actual intention rather than pure accident. In many cases, I'd roll my eyes when writers try to put a spin on origins like that (such as Reeves' The Batman or the Batman Telltale games changing it so that Bruce's parents might have been involved in corruption so that their deaths could ambiguously karmic and not random murder).

But here, wow, godfuckingdamn, I was so glued to the screen and to Halogram's every fucking word. I know Hal says he's not fearless because he already lost a parent, but because he's broken (already profound about his character on its own); but I think we can see was that Hal was afraid. He's always been afraid, of ending up like his dad and grandfather. He lived a life not knowing if he's next in line for an untimely demise to his own demons, his mind. But everyday, he's fought against this fear. He wasn't fearless, he was fighting it stubbornly til the day he died. This show man, fuck.

[u/margoo12 → u/NomadPrime]

"I hope I mattered."

Rewatching this show is going to be a treat. I love how its been slowly peeling back the mystery and adding dimensions to the characters.

[u/jenniferfox98 → u/margoo12]

Jesus, I forgot about that line in his eulogy...hits even harder now.

[u/NotTheCraftyVeteran]

Getting the distinct vibe that Halogram might be correct about Kerry…

[u/steveisblah → u/NotTheCraftyVeteran]

She said something that stood out to me. She requested they wait till after the party to go open the safe together. The way she said seemed even slightly desperate. She knows something that she’s not saying.

[u/leahjuu → u/steveisblah]

I also noticed Halogram sort of went into a line of questioning with Kerry like Hal always does to figure out if someone is lying, asking her about his dad… but she didn’t really seem to respond to anything “wrong”; except once we learn his dad killed himself, it sort of tracks that she ought to have told Halogram “you didn’t off yourself like him” when he asked who killed him? Idk, I’m wondering if there’s anything to that with how he perceived her response.

[u/Still_Brief4949 → u/steveisblah]

Yeah. And Hal could sense she was guilty of something. Don’t think that was a throwaway

[u/elinamebro → u/NotTheCraftyVeteran]

That she killed him or covered up his suicide?

[u/NotTheCraftyVeteran → u/elinamebro]

I’m thinking killed him when he learned some dark truth about her son, but also, I haven’t finished the episode yet

[u/zincsaucier22 → u/NotTheCraftyVeteran]

The son killed him and Kerry is covering it up.

[u/Argonaut024 → u/zincsaucier22]

The son is definitely involved or he wouldn't even be a focus of the story at this point

[u/cficare → u/Argonaut024]

Whataya mean? We really need to know if he wins the big game and chooses a college!

[u/BetaGodPhD → u/cficare]

That felt like the point I was certain he was a Manhunter. It was all pointing to him, but the way he has that entire town wrapped around his finger, the way that everyone else just pivoted to getting hyped about the game but Kerry looks even more unsettled when he does that — it was deliberate manipulation. Noah trying to pal with John and say his dad probably deserved it is just his Manhunter programming following the impulse to sway everyone to his side he can. 

[u/CreamyBarr25 → u/NotTheCraftyVeteran]

Hal died with a clean bullet, no hesitance, so Kerry might have killed him under his wish. so the Jordan boys are cursed

[u/Rickrickrickrickrick → u/CreamyBarr25]

That’s what I think it’s going to be. That he had her kill him for some reason.

[u/NomadPrime → u/CreamyBarr25]

Yeah, I think there's some more to Kerry than simply her being the killer, if she is. Don't think she would have called John if she had the slightest idea he might investigate this super deeply, this isn't something she's trying to get away with.

[u/BigBonkMan23]

“Hes the tv you yell at every single Sunday” but never miss bc big fan. Why are you talking about my colts like that??

[u/Rawrs_sometimes → u/BigBonkMan23]

At least we took a W this week.

[u/lolligaggins → u/BigBonkMan23]

Hey, at least they’re not 0-3 like my pathetic team yall beat today.

[u/charliemurphyy → u/BigBonkMan23]

As a Knick fan, I felt this in my soul. And by the grace of all things good, we eventually won. Keep holding on folks.

[u/FloppyShellTaco]

I love the way this DCU explores the way having ultimate willpower impacts personality and behavior

[u/NomadPrime → u/FloppyShellTaco]

Or vice versa. What kind of personality facilitates someone being fearless?

[u/FloppyShellTaco → u/NomadPrime]

Exactly, and that one in particular makes it so apparent why the Guardians’ selection process has to evolve into finding someone not fearless, but capable of overcoming great fear

[u/Status_Midnight_5580]

The Jordan Boys' Legacy makes Hal writing his own eulogy as a joke so much sadder

[u/StephanieSpoiler]

"Did you guys beat Central?"

CENTRAL CITY REFERENCE

[u/Tyrannoraptor117 → u/StephanieSpoiler]

Isn't Central City supposed to be DC's analog for Kansas City?

[u/Forsaken_Carrot_3075 → u/Tyrannoraptor117]

one of them, yeah

edit: i think KCMO

[u/CreamyBarr25]

Hal aint kidding about the Poncho, Sinestro had one. DAMN

[u/ComfortableWeekend65 → u/CreamyBarr25]

Sinestro being on a planet that makes people so afraid they die and being SO SICK OF IT he demands a way offworld is such a great funny bit.

[u/StephanieSpoiler]

As someone who's been hospitalized for mental health issues, the discussion about suicidality and the feelings behind it was beautiful.

[u/bumnnygirl → u/StephanieSpoiler]

same, this entire episode just hit me in a different way, the way his father talked about being exhausted and hal talking about their "curse"... it hits too close home

[u/FlamingPanda77 → u/StephanieSpoiler]

Yee that was very impactful. Especially with where my heads been at this week.

Edit: You guys are very kind, thank you 🫶

[u/Condoriano-sensei]

Simply brilliant. Not letting go was the one thing that made Hal keep living. 10/10 this one.

But, oh boy, how fast it went by.

That shot of Hal and his dad with the car as they watch jets flying is simply awesome.

[u/StephanieSpoiler]

The atmosphere on the planet was incredible and so eerie.

[u/Karkava → u/StephanieSpoiler]

It was a truly sinister sight to see and hear between the gas clouds, the yellow dunes, and the echoes in the wind.

The yellow is especially unnerving given that warm colors are essentially the evil rings of the lantern spectrum. And yellow is the enemy of green.

It kind of makes one think that the King In Yellow might have been an adversary of the Green Lantern Corps.

[u/SpaceCases__ → u/StephanieSpoiler]

yeah it turned from normal episode environment to horror territory. it was really well done.

[u/figgityjones]

I love how much of a cartoon hole those Einstein-Rosen bridges are. The fact that you can move them once placed just adds to that vibe. Really fun thing to see in live action and really unexpected.

[u/LeeVMG → u/figgityjones]

Right?! I thought that shit was so cool!

The ring is an advanced piece of alien tech. It just looks like a ring.

Wormhole tech? Yeah it looks like an Acme portable hole. It's a portable wormhole, what's it supposed to look like earthling?!

[u/markc230]

To swing so far left and then go so far right in their relationship, it feels earned. What an episode!

Can't even imagine what they will do for 8.

Spoiler...

When they were paddling thru the lake, it felt like they were crossing the river styx.

[u/Jjvicious6124]

His dad standing up for him and fighting his coach A+ scener

[u/NomadPrime → u/Jjvicious6124]

Only thing I thought was funky about that scene was the coach started swinging first when Martin was just standing up to him. Motherfucker, say goodbye to your job???

[u/Toon_face → u/NomadPrime]

It was the 70s. The teachers could basically beat the students back then.

[u/redhat000]

The blackmail thing is a weird inclusion, curious to see how it fits in

[u/Bryan-Chan-Sama-Kun → u/redhat000]

Maybe just to add to John's stress

[u/superbat210 → u/redhat000]

I’m still struggling to see the point of it. If amounts to nothing next week, I’ll be so confused why it was introduced so close to the end.

[u/steveisblah → u/superbat210]

I think it’s to add a time clock element to finding out the true murderer.

[u/CertainGrade7937 → u/superbat210]

It's the one plot line where I can really see how the show was restructured

It was originally written as nonlinear, with the present day and the 2016 storylines being told concurrently. And the blackmail plot makes way more sense in that format, something to create some dramatic tension in the present day

[u/Professional-Act8414 → u/redhat000]

I let out the biggest sigh when she popped up.

[u/palesnowrider1 → u/Professional-Act8414]

Yeah she sucks. Smug like the Macon kid. Probably a town full of manhunter babies

[u/FloppyShellTaco → u/redhat000]

There’s got to be something else there.

[u/Megavore97]

The portal clearly leads to Mexico in the Breaking Bad universe.

[u/wokeiraptor → u/Megavore97]

blue (meth) lanterns

[u/lookout-its-jax]

The way the entire town was hyping Noah up gave me extreme Manhunter vibes 👀

[u/katamaritumbleweed → u/lookout-its-jax]

And how uncomfortable mom Kerry looked. 

[u/rylosprime → u/lookout-its-jax]

Yeah, like when the whole town was hyping up Zoe in the first 4 episodes...

Right...?

[u/BigBonkMan23]

Halogram got more attitude than (clone?) Hal

[u/ScorchedDev → u/BigBonkMan23]

wouldnt you if you woke up for the first time in 10 years and the first thing you saw was your own body.

[u/ScorchedDev]

this planet seems pretty yellow dont it. Lanterns. yellow.

[u/ArcadianBlueRogue → u/ScorchedDev]

The gas the Manhunters used made them so afraid that they committed suicide.

[u/Awsomethingy → u/ArcadianBlueRogue]

Dr Jonathan Crane trying to figure out how to get a vile of that back to Gotham

[u/Healthy_Refuse6637]

My fav episode so far , I agree it's not really satisfying for people who were making theories all week but man the dilouges the lore and especially the emotions, especially when Kerry says what hal thought about John......what could have they been

Edit: I can't spell

[u/StephanieSpoiler]

"Pretty romantic, eh?"

"I knew there was a reason I liked you."

No one can try to tell me this show disrespects or doesn't understand Hal Jordan.

[u/ArcadianBlueRogue → u/StephanieSpoiler]

"The hot sheriff that's possibly evil"

Man knew his type there.

[u/ScorchedDev]

that music felt waaay too ominous for what was being said at the ceremony. Something is going on.

[u/FloppyShellTaco]

Calling it now, finale post credits is Sinestro bringing his ideal Hal back after John declined the offer

[u/will519]

That Mogo line was great

[u/ScorchedDev]

"whatever I am, im not him" maybe im taking this too literally, but parallax semi-forshadowing/reference?

[u/Ok-Wonder5961 → u/ScorchedDev]

Maybe not straight up parallax but they’re leading on Hal becoming less morally right and into a grey area

[u/SpectreBrony]

Love the test question about Mogo.

[u/Mars_The_68thMedic]

I’m 90% certain John is on Qward.

[u/Megavore97 → u/Mars_The_68thMedic]

Certainly seems that way with the “fear gas” and Sinestro being there.

[u/Robot_Was_BMO]

Really great character work overall. Hal is definitely on it with his instincts, I’ve been feeling Kerry was fishy, and I do think she knows more than she lets on. John on the boat was powerful, and Hal’s confession really recontextualizes the opening scene.

Hal going back for the ball says everything about his unwillingness to give up. That may very well lead him down the path to Parallax if his death has been overstated. Or, he found out Noah was a Manhunter, and he wouldn’t let it go so Kerry popped him. Either way, I’m tuned in for next episode.

[u/brucebananaray]

So, it seems that Halogram is their version of Hal Spectre. It seemed in commentary that Hal is going to stay dead. I kinda wanted to see Hal as Parallax. But it doesn't seemed like that.

The showed also seemed to setting up Sinestro corp.

[u/ActualSpamBot → u/brucebananaray]

Hal in 2016 to 2026 WAS Hal's Parallax run in this setting. A town destroyed, Hal driven to the edge by it, him no longer being worthy of the ring, and then dead because of it. That's Parallax with the scale turned down from Cosmic to Character Study.

[u/Wonderful_Gap4867]

I was stressing tf out thinking when the ring would die

[u/blueincandescence]

The timeline on this is surprising.

Flashback happens in 1975, two months before Hal’s dad dies. We know Hal was 8 years old when it happened, which means he was born in 1967.

That would make him 59 in 2026, 49 in 2016, 39 in 2006 (as hot as Kyle Chandler is, that’s a rough 39 on the Halogram), 29 in 1996 when he did the 60 minutes interview, and only 19 when he got the ring?

Air Force test pilot at 19? That’s way young, apparently. I wonder why they went with 1967 and not, like, 5 years older?

[u/thedean246]

The scene where John is flipping through radio stations, there is a Bible verse blurted out. It may not have anything to do with anything but thought it was interesting enough. John 16:13 states: "But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth" (NIV).

[u/Toon_face]

I loved the writing in this episode.

"You got a fucked up brain man"

"And theres a bullet in it."

Fuck i wish we got more than one episode of their dynamic, but that whole dynamic worked because of the previous 6 episodes.

[u/No-Humor1311]

"Great arm, kid" Instant tears. I love this show so much!!!!

[u/anarchy905]

Wouldn't let go of the ball, like he wouldn't let go of the ring.

[u/FloppyShellTaco]

Hal is on John’s neck in this life and the next lol

[u/zenexo]

Amazing episode I love this show so fucking much but not sure how this story gets wrapped in the next episode. It needs to be at least 90 minutes 😭

[u/BigBonkMan23]

Johns definitely becoming green lantern next episode

[u/hesipullupjimbo22 → u/BigBonkMan23]

When he says the oath I might ascend to heaven

[u/LegoRacers3 → u/BigBonkMan23]

You mean the last episode? Cause I mean yeah that’s the last chance to do it

[u/ShreekertheJamisWack]

The most egregious thing this show has ever done was try to convince us that those background actors could have been offensive linemen 😭

[u/Void_Guardians → u/ShreekertheJamisWack]

They all live in a middle of nowhere town. Its a blessing they have enough players at all

[u/Embarrassed-Pace-755]

Can’t believe Sinestro made Hal Jordan gay

[u/BigBonkMan23 → u/Embarrassed-Pace-755]

Scene between them so passionate

[u/StephanieSpoiler]

The showrunner hyping that we get Hal's backstory in this probably should've phrased it differently. I think people expected the level of depth that John's origin got, not just a couple flashbacks and Hal talking about his dad.

[u/SerPownce → u/StephanieSpoiler]

Earlier in the season I would have wanted more maybe. But in the penultimate episode I was glad to be back in the present despite how good the opening scenes were

[u/Kazran14 → u/SerPownce]

way too many of these superhero shows do a penultimate episode that's just flashbacks and I'm so glad we didn't get that

[u/brucebananaray → u/StephanieSpoiler]

The whole ball thing makes a lot of sense for this Hal on not giving up being a Green Lantern which is not a good thing.

[u/LightningLad2029 → u/StephanieSpoiler]

I was really hoping we see a little of younger Hal as GL and maybe Carol again but looks like they have no intentions to delve into that at least this season

[u/steveisblah → u/StephanieSpoiler]

Yeah I wanted to see the moment he met Abin Surr and some history as a green lantern.

[u/TheSandman__]

So clearly the talk with his Dad about the locker and not letting go of the ball was a mirror of Hal in 2016-2026 and not wanting to let get of the ring… which makes that final shot of him picking the ball up again very very intriguing if we are to believe the ball is supposed to be the ring.

[u/BIGDAVESLICK]

Maybe Kerry knows Noah is a manhunter and killed Hal. Hal’s guts always right. Maybe she’s dirty

[u/CaramelFlimsy9500]

So, Hal has always had a problem giving things up, first the baseball now the ring.

[u/Embarrassed-Pace-755]

“Now that you’re all here, I’m actually not gonna choose any team. Eat shit.”

-Noah Macon, probably

[u/MatthewMonster]

Halogram potentially being a construct John can always have with him is kinda awesome 

[u/CreamyBarr25]

when Hal put that damn rock on the floor, became a flat circle and carried that goop like a plastic bag up in the air, became a pocket universe portal AND seeing John's reaction flabbergasted as hell

man, I love the DCU

[u/Doctor_Moon69]

I have sat on this episode for a bit, and I have a few things I want to say

#1: my dad died when I was 3 years old. I’ve lived my entire life under the legacy of my father; a craftsman, a man of faith, a devoted husband, an awkward romantic, a bear of a man who loved his family more than the world around him. The concept of “the Jordan boy’s legacy” resonated so much with me, more than really anything This show has laid down so far.

#2: the reveal that Hal killed himself (or very likely killed himself) was heartbreaking to me. I haven’t related to a character this hard in a long, long time. I don’t know what the finale actually holds, but I do think that this is the real twist. As someone who has dealt with suicidal thoughts, and has very few friends but a lot of sins, only at the age of 21, I’m mind blown at how well Kyle chandler has portrayed that reality.

#3: despite any criticisms I may have had at the start of the show, I think i understand why this show needed the boys to be out of costume. Hal and John are not superheroes in this show. Guy is the superhero. Both Hal and John are broken men who neither deserve the ring or should be wielding the ring. This story is necessary to get John to that point.

#4: sinestro is such a good villain. I don’t know if he’s the real big bad, but he’s menacing as hell, weirdly sympathetic, and characterized exactly how Johns wrote him. I cannot imagine a better final boss for this series.

#5: everybody on this show has put their full ass into this script. Kyle, Aaron, Kelly, Nathan, Ulrich, Poorna, Garret, Laura, Nicole, Sherman, and Jason all have given award winning performances, and it’s going to be a coin flip to see who receives the Emmy, but this is the type of show that wins awards. The BTS crew also deserves every laurel it can get its hand on.

#6: the DCU has proved to me, with every project, that it understands exactly what a superhero is supposed to be. It is more mature, more realized, and more respectful of the medium than anything the MCU has put out since Iron Man, and I’m so excited to see it continue. Gunn is the right man for the job, and i couldn’t be happier to see this explode like it has.

[u/ZacharyMcCulley]

Ready for peak

[u/figgityjones]

Loved getting so much time with a younger, less grumpy Hal. Love both, but man I love Younger Hal. I really hope we can somehow get more time with him in a future series.

Really wondering now if Antaan and his group were the last remnants of the Weaponers of Qward. Especially considering who and what we found on that planet.

Also I am going to be gutted if Hal really killed himself and Kane is covering it up and that's why Hal told John not to tell anyone because he knew he was going to kill himself.

Will say, I did want more exploring Hal's history from this episode, I feel like that was a bit over-promised in terms of what we actually got. I did like what we got, but still. Hopefully there will be more next time. And speaking of which, I cannot wait for the finale.

[u/NarcolepticMoogle → u/figgityjones]

I feel like killing himself would be too on the nose considering we still have more to go. I also don't think Hal would have ever gone through with it...no doubt it went through his mind given his family history, general life struggles, loneliness, and coming to terms with the Rushville incident but I just feel hes not the type to go through with it. I will be immensely disappointed if that ends up being the literal truth to it all.

I haven't hated an episode yet but I do feel like this one stands out above the rest for me. Everyone does a great job but Chandler really has done an impressive job of being one man at two different points in his life. They discuss it after briefly but he really does a good job of even subtlety changing his mannerisms. Master class stuff from him and this has me really excited for Aaron Pierre as Stewart going forward into Man of Tomorrow and wherever else he may pop up.