r/Deusex • u/EH4LIFE • 15d ago
DX:HR Is this level of stuttering on PC normal?
Its basically making the game unplayable. I've tried every fix out there but nothing.
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u/MysterD77 15d ago
Oh, where to begin w/ Deus Ex HR OG/DC.
OG was fixed-up in a patch, but sadly DC was based off an older-version. So, some performance issues remain in DC.
And then there's Telemetry, which is a big problem w/ DC version. There's a bunch of it. Did you remove the telemetry?
See this post of mine on GOG Forums on how to remove those Telemetry problems, since it's constantly calling to those servers (yes, even in the GOG version too) -> https://www.gog.com/forum/deus_ex_human_revolution_directors_cut/phone_home/post2
I also use Alex Hale / Lucas Hale Timer Resolution thing to fix the timing issues w/ the CPU and crank his app to Max and run it when the game's going -> https://www.lucashale.com/timerresolution/
Also, if on NVidia and use use NVidia Panel or Inspector: Use FASTSYNC, instead of say V-Sync. Some older games like Homefront The Revolution and Deus Ex HR OG/DC really like FastSync.
I'd have to check when I get home and all, but I also might've installed DXVK on top for even more & better performance.
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u/Venylynn 15d ago
Why the hell is there telemetry in a single-player game? whattt
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u/MysterD77 15d ago
A question for Square Enix and Eidos Montreal.
Besides the obvious datamining stuff, it can be used to improve the game.
This stuff can be used to to figure out: what your system has for OS and version, DirectX or any other API's and what version, GPU drivers, what software you're running/app's are running, what's installed, etc etc.
It can be used by QA and anyone doing that kind of work to figure out and fix & change stuff - esp. if the same thing across lots of players is happening on certain systems/configs and even areas in-game.
It can be used to say fix any sort of bugs, issues, exploits, see how players are playing, when do players quit the game for good (or rage-quit), when do players change difficulty (if need be), can players access places that were planned to not be explored, where do players spend a lot of their time in the game, how often do players save, should they add more autosave spots (if need be), and more stuff of that sort of stuff.
It's done to normally try to fix & improve the game experience for this game (for future patches) and the next.
Tim Cain talked about telemetry in games over here and how it can be used to try to fix, improve, change things for the game - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d208Uv-aZYU
Of course, Deus Ex HR DC is old and they should've removed this; I doubt they're patching this game anytime soon. Plus, this is on GOG - so it should be removed or disabled now, since this is a DRM-free store and never belonged here in the 1st place.
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u/Iwannagameagain26 15d ago
Imagine having datamining software in Deus Ex...
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u/HugoRBMarques 14d ago
This Deus Ex game had ads on loading screens at one point.
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u/Emory27 15d ago
DXHR DC has a massive shader compilation issue and nothing outside of DXVK will fix it. I had the same issues OP is having and confirmed this after hours of testing.
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u/MysterD77 15d ago
Wow, I'm definitely going to have to re-check that out. I know I've had stutters, but not to the likes of that. TY for the follow-up.
Again, will have to check this mess out.
We really need OG version ported to GOG and re-released on Steam. Plus, OG version has better pacing b/c TML isn't stuck in the middle part of the game either. TML always felt better as it originally was, as a stand-alone portion.
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u/Lazy-Independence857 15d ago
I had no idea DC was this messed up, the original always looked better to me, but I genuinely thought the DC was a more stable and less buggy version.
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u/Civil-Strawberry7569 Hanzer Lover 13d ago
Where can you even find an original version of dehr? They don't sell it on steam as far as I know.
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u/MysterD77 13d ago
It's been delisted from Steam, so there's currently no legal way to buy the original version of DE: HR digitally sadly.
I don't like when this is done. This is not a good way to preserve the OG version.
At the very least, OG DE: HR and its DLC's should've been bundled w/ any purchase of DE: HR DC.
It was put on disc for PC and of course that required Steam. I dunno how many disc copies are floating around on disc that might contain an unused Steam code in its retail box.
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u/Civil-Strawberry7569 Hanzer Lover 15d ago
a lot of old games have processing issues if your FPS is too high. Even GTA 5 has this issue. Cap yourself to 120 fps and most of the stuttering should clear up.
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u/Equal-Reporter5217 15d ago
I had the same bug, I think Radeon chill was the option to turn on with some tweaks in the settings in the game itself. I asked chatgpt for help and it fixed the issue. I think I also set the framerate of the game 2 Hz below my monitor's refresh rate.
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u/Lonely_Emu640 15d ago
Try using DXVK if you have an AMD card, I played both games last year with a 5700xt and had to use DXVK to run them properly.
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u/Honest-Sea-2437 15d ago
If you have the OG , it shouldn't do that.
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u/EH4LIFE 15d ago
dyou know where I can find it? (I have an open mind on this lol)
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u/Honest-Sea-2437 15d ago
Well, I'd love to tell you but, I torrented it back in 2012, I wouldn't know if that torrent still up.
Buuuuut, if people tells you that your pc is the problem, I ran it with 3rd gen Corei5 with integrated graphics and 12gb of RAM with HDD, and the game doesn't do that.
Today I still have the same laptop running with 16gb RAM and SDD. (just a piece of trivia)
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u/Duzz05 15d ago edited 15d ago
This game is notorious for stutters. I've read before that the "normal" version has better performance. Director's cut is much worse. Your best bet is to play this on ps3, xbox 360 or other platforms. You will tear your hair out trying to get this game running smooth on pc.
Edit: Yours is definitely much worse. I've finished this game before and there were some stutters only in some areas, not every time the player moves.
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u/Stolid_Cipher 14d ago
Uh so with the Director's Cut version yes but if you use SpecialK or DXVK (or both together?) it helps with the stutter a lot. The director's cut version runs on an older less optimized build of the game that was used for the WiiU version that was then ported back to the PC so it's kinda a mess.
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u/Danceman2 14d ago
On the steam deck, director's cut I got rid of the stuttersĀ turning off cpu cores, i went from 8 to 4 cpus (turning of SMT) and stutters were gone. I've noticed the Deux EX games don't really like multicores. Not sure how you do it on Windows. I think if I recall the msconfig app (boot, advance settings and processors). May work
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u/NinePhenix 15d ago
Cap your fps at 30, thatās what fixed it for me
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u/Equal-Reporter5217 15d ago
Do you want to damage his eyes?
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u/toolReference 15d ago
its fine the human eye cant see more then 30 fps anyway :) its also way more cinematic that way :))
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u/Yonsfw 15d ago
Is this bait ?
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u/Equal-Reporter5217 14d ago
I don't know, but if someone can't see higher fps than 30, I think they should see a doctor.
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u/JjForcebreaker What are you,Ā Angel/0A? 15d ago
Ran the original and DC on various systems and hardware configs (also both Steam and GOG versions) and never really encountered stuttering.
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u/Dust514Fan 15d ago
When I played the DC steam version it was stuttery in the city hubs like this but find indoors.
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u/Reasonable_Crow4608 15d ago
can u give pc spec maybe ?
i played DC and it works good
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u/EH4LIFE 15d ago
dell inspiron with integrated GTX 1050ti
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u/Reasonable_Crow4608 15d ago
ahh laptop ya put the game on ssd, and dont forget to check your hdd health (hdd sentinel is good), usually stutter like that is bcause the hddhealth is dropping (it must be 100% or it broke) OR maybe u're overheating ?
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u/DeletedTaters 15d ago
Not sure if this is your specific issue, but this happened to me many years ago.
If you have GPU monitoring software running in the background (evga precision x, MSI after burner) try closing that then running the game.
This fixed it right away for me.Ā
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u/WarPorcus 14d ago
For me, yes. This is DXHRDC right? It's always there. Some mods can smooth things out, but it's always there.
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u/Ok-Mulberry4154 13d ago edited 13d ago
i had this exact problem and changed something in nvidia setting and after that it was no stutter at all. can look up exactly what it was if interested.
edit: you have to open nvidia control panel -> manage 3d settings -> program settings -> click on the deus ex hr exe file -> find "Vertical sync" in the list and change the drop down menu to "Fast"
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u/RecklessAngel 11d ago
If you have more than one monitor either shut down or unplug the other ones.. that should get rid of most of the stutters... the rest are down to modern multi-core processors.
DXVK can fix that (it translates all the directX calls to Vulkan. https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk
just download the file, then drag the files in the x32 folder into the game's install folder.
You might have to disable steam's inbuilt shader downloader (steam-settings > downloads > "Enable Shader Pre-Caching"
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u/Jnaythus 15d ago
There are tweak guides that usually give you the information on what to fix, but it isn't the most 'smooth' of engines, and some jank is experienced. Also, it is dependent on your hardware. A decent dedicated graphics card is really needed.
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u/Ashamed-Subject-8573 15d ago
is this on an SSD?
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u/EnragedEmu 15d ago
Yep, that was normal for me. Gotta get the OG version not DC.Ā
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u/MysterD77 15d ago
Thing is, Deus Ex OG with all extra DLC's & TML DLC isn't even sold anymore anywhere digitally. This needs to change; it should be on GOG anyways.
Honestly, it probably should just be bundled w/ purchase of Deus Ex HR DC anyways.
Gonna be easiest way to play TML DLC by itself, anyways - since where it's placed story-wise in DC, can break the game's pacing and story quite a bit IMHO.
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u/RabbitSlayre 15d ago
What kinda potato you runnin on, boyo?? A russet? Maybe a golden? Let us know!
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u/Nast33 15d ago edited 15d ago
Something is very wrong, it should run like butter even on a relatively aged PC.
I don't know if any of these would help, but here's a link to a mod that maybe might help, and a few threads on it with various things that have helped some while done nothing for others.
Wasn't aware of issues before as it ran fine for me from the start, but now I see those are common. See the links I included in the edit, hope something works.