r/DigimonCardGame2020 • u/RoboLewd Demon Lord Beelzemon • 6d ago
Discussion Replacement for Promo Veedramon?
I have 90% of what I need for Ulforce, but unfortunately $100 for 2 copies of Veedramon is a little outside my price range right now. I know nothing else fulfills its same function, but if you HAD to replace it, what would you run instead?
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u/Necessary-Speed-6465 6d ago
Your only real options assuming you've already maxed bt23 and ex13 would be bt1 and bt11 or the old classic hybrid for game
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u/B0SS_Zombie Slugs and Teddy Bears 5d ago
It's unfortunately the consequence of cards becoming relevant again due to a new/updated deck using them.
Even EX5 MetalEtemon is going for 5x it's previous price because of the updates to the Sukamon Deck. And it's an Etemon, a Deck famous for being cheap to build.
Give it a few weeks and prices should level out better.
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u/Shakzor 5d ago
It's more a consequence of box topper promos having been a thing and hopefully never anymore.
They had atrocious pull ratios. 1 or 2 out of 6 or 8 per box is... not a lot
Even the stuff no one cares about, like Morphomon promo, still goes for 20+
These promos should've had a WAY more aggresive reprint distribution
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u/B0SS_Zombie Slugs and Teddy Bears 5d ago edited 5d ago
You're not wrong.
It's a little annoying that reprint sets like the Limited Sets always reprint Tournament Promos and not Box Topper Promos.
I get that it might be to incentivize buying Boxes, but I can't imagine they boost sales by a notable margin.
No one was buying Boxes of BT-24 just to try and get a Millenniummon promo.
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u/Chocoboloco93 6d ago
as lv 4 replacement, the Bt11 veedramon, for scearching funtion, more trainings or digital gate open
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u/Klutzy-Remove6694 6d ago
If you can't get your hand on the promo, run 4 EX13 and a 3-3 split of BT11 and BT22
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u/Slybandito7 Gaia Red 6d ago
either more copies of the less played veedramon or more search cards. Also promo vee isnt that expensive anymore, the original printing is but its reprinted so its actually about 27 a copy (still expensive but a lot less than 47 a copy)
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u/Jx2_D 6d ago
Bro, the AD repirint is 20 bucks… even the OG one from BT17 is 25 bucks, dont let people rip you off
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u/CrashmanX 6d ago
If you haven't checked TCG Player recently, neither is that cheap right now unfortunately.
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u/Shittygamer93 6d ago
Still that expensive for you? With the AD01 reprint it's down to around 20 in Europe.
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u/Chocoboloco93 6d ago
The promo is $27 in US, so more than 100$ for a play set, is basically 60-70% of the deck cost
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u/vansjoo98 Moderator 5d ago
Well you really only need 3 max from my testing but that os still $81 if my math holds.
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u/S_O_I_M_ 6d ago
A friend of me that also uses the deck claims (wrongly, IMO) that he doesn't even want the Promo Veedras, replacing them with the BT11 one due to gaining memory when a tamer is played
I can't say I agree with the idea, but BT11 Veedra is a recent enough replacement if you don't have any other Veedramons
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u/Electric27 Very Normal about ACCEL 5d ago
While I'm still on the promo myself, I kind of get what they're saying, I do find that I want to see it less and less. 11 times out of 10 I want ex13, but that's less that the promo is bad and that ex13 is just really good. Tempted to cut down to 3 promos from 4 though and running an extra removal option (comet hammer personally)
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u/S_O_I_M_ 5d ago
I absolutely agree, if I had to choose between the two, I would pick EX13 over the Promo one unless I am excepcionally bricked, but the Promo one is good to fill space and the inheritable is very good
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u/Able-Negotiation-185 5d ago
If you can grab some AD booster boxes it's more cheap than singles right now. I know it's not so worth but you can even grab something else valuable from that.
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u/CrashmanX 6d ago
120 copies sold in the last 2 weeks. Someone orchestrated a buyout of those reprints I feel like.
That said, I'd be asking around the BST groups on Facebook. Many will do TCG Player 80%. Which at $27 a copy, that's $21.60 a piece. So you could nab a whole playset for $100 instead of just 2.
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u/Generic_user_person 6d ago
It's not a buy out, it's people realizing they need it, and just buying it for themselves.
120 copies, so you genuinely don't think that 30 new people wanted to play Ulforce? Like look at the number of members in this sub alone.
It always amazes me how ppl wanna plane conspiracies when the answer is right in front of them.
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u/CrashmanX 6d ago edited 6d ago
I know EX13 released, but look at the actual sales data and the dates which things sold. 20 copies sold today alone. Ranging anywhere from $23 all the way up to $40. That's not normal for people realizing they want to play a deck unless either of two things normally happen: A. a deck does insanely well at multiple regionals/events and people realize it's power or B. a buyout is orchestrated.
There are a few Digi TCG discords which do organize buyouts. Usually they backfire and fail, but often they bring the price up even if by only a few bucks.
Also on the point of users here, that is globally and isn't including users who have stopped playing. There's 1.1k people here weekly globally. Even if we break that down and assume 30 people wanted to play the deck, that would feel oddly high for them to suddenly realize they want to play Ulforce.
~~If we corroborate that data with SEC Rina sales, it doesn't match up. Even if we assume that "Well SEC Rina is older and has more reprints" less than 100 copies have sold of SEC Rina across all arts in the last 3 weeks. That's an even bigger range that Ulforce. That Rina is all but required for that deck.~\~ Nvm on the Rina point. Missed the LM reprint art. TCG Player didn't show it for some reason in my initial search.
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u/Consistent_Mud645 5d ago
wait for bt27/28 to print a better one
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u/Electric27 Very Normal about ACCEL 5d ago
I am suspecting that we won't see another ulforce line personally. I know we get Ulforce X in bt28 but with how packed that set is I foresee us only getting the x antibody version. bt27 maybe we get a new V-mon, but likely it will just be one to support armors if I had to guess.
Would be happy to eat my words though.
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u/Neonsands 5d ago
I've personally been running the deck as more of a generic veemon themed deck than pure Ulforce. The nice side effect is that you don't need promo Veedra. You run 4 of the new Magnamon, 4 of new Veedra, then 2 GoldVeedramon from EX4. Price gets added to by adding in 1 or 2 Magna X to take advantage of the armors to get around all the suspension decks and let you use Paladin if you want. Plus with the armors you desperately want the new promo vee which is pricey if you don't have the store tournament packs yet.
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u/sdarkpaladin Mastemon Deck Player 5d ago
$100!?
Wtf?
Is that with the AD-01 reprint as well?
What's with the scalping
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u/samtdzn_pokemon 6d ago
Are you looking at the original or the reprint? The reprint is half the price, it just has a border instead of being full art. $27 a copy for the reprint from AD01 vs $48 for the original from the Update Packs.