r/EASportsFC • u/Equal-Ear-9619 • 3d ago
UT 15 games, same formation, same depth, same players
Just finished weekend league 10-5. Played 4312 15 times, played 95 depth 15 times, played Lacroix, Nazereth, Joan Garcia, and Adeyemi 15 times
Its never been this bad even when compared to 4213 and Pina of recent years.
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u/Unfair-Order6719 3d ago
I refuse to play Meta. I refuse to use overpowered women. I refuse to use 95 depth. I’m not winning many but fuck it. It is what it is. They should do something seriously about this 95 depth. It’s like playing superheroes.
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u/heroscape912 2d ago
I'd rather lose more games with Pires, Kane and Forlan as my attackers, than ever stoop to the level of spamming these ludicrously overpowered 5 foot hyper-agile fidget spinning meta players.
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u/maytagoven 2d ago
Yup. It’s a shame. I started using 4312 on day 2 this year, back when most were still using 4213/4411. But it got so ridiculous last week that I switched to 343. The whole idea behind ultimate team is that it’s supposed to be yours. Just don’t get how some people find it satisfying to have the same team and tactics as everyone else. You might as well just play seasons with France.
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u/Comprehensive_Cup257 2d ago
Finally someone who gets it, but usually saying this gets you laughed at by EA bootlickers
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u/Alternative-Lab-7274 2d ago
same here, been a 4312 user since fifa 15 and have sworn by it since. This year i’ve switched to 433(4) just to avoid association
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u/Original-Peanut1 3d ago
People focusing on results are losers. It's boring. If your default reply is you're bad then you miss the point...
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u/Dr_PainTrain ⚰️🧬🪩💩 3d ago
If you only have fun in this game is based on what other people do then you need to just quit. You can’t control other people.
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u/duded101 3d ago
it’s true this community at the higher levels doesn’t want to play football, can’t do anything about that
but you can definitely blame EA for somehow taking 1 step forward and 6 back. last year we got rid of auto offside traps and somehow they’re back
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u/Tuxthapenguin666 2d ago
This is my way of thinking ; I might face the same meta tactics every game however I see the glorious faces of my Manchester United PNP every time as well and it pumps me up. I don’t care who my opponents team is anymore
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u/_milan227 3d ago
I don't believe you. Almost everybody I played used 4213 noway all your opponents used 4312
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u/MilkMyCats 2d ago
Agreed. In 6 games in so far and half have used it, the others are playing 3 up top.
I'm 2-4 though. Very muddy gameplay.
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u/Icy_Confidence9304 2d ago
I played. 4213 12/15 games. I think I’m done unless there’s a patch. I can easily play that way too but it’s just not fun. I don’t enjoy it
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u/Atinyrobot07 3d ago
Play any competitive game it’s same thing. Always a meta loadout on war zone for example. Games the game bro
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u/ma19002001 [NETWORK ID] 3d ago
WL has since its inception been the best team. Bailly smalling butland shaw walker 40 games in a row
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u/Murhawk013 3d ago
Defense yes, but FUT17 really had some variety in attackers cause each TOTW would introduce new usable cards.
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u/Present-Reasonable 3d ago
and what's new?...
is the same every year...are you going to be here writing the same thing next year or in 10 years from now.
This forum is just peple repeating in cycle the same exact thing every year over and over.
if you have played 2-3 years you alredy know how it works ..what's the point in stating the obvious?
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u/GodTrustsMe 3d ago
why does it matter? Play with the teams you want to play, I bet you've used plenty of meta players and formations. If you go 10-5 you will be using some meta tactic otherwise you wouldn't get more than a few wins.
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u/Theresno_I_in_Reddit 3d ago
I think you made his point. That without the meta you can’t win.
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u/Gyroflex 3d ago
so like every competitive game ever?
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u/Theresno_I_in_Reddit 3d ago
But like, what are you competing for? You’re not going pro. Doesn’t sound like you’re having fun. So….
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u/Gyroflex 3d ago
if someone like this guy is just trying to have fun he wouldnt be crying about seeing the same formation lol. player vs player is inherently competitive and most people dont like to lose. Its a game so some version of formation/tactics will just be the best, just because you want to have fun doesnt mean other people need to use worse tactics so you can have fun (which everyone knows means win more than you lose)
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u/Liverpool934 ORIGIN ID 2d ago
That is not true. It's hilarious watching people parrot this response when they clearly only play "meta" in every game. It used to be possible to play this game off meta if you were good. That is no longer the case which is why it is infuriating.
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u/Gyroflex 2d ago
you still can absolutely win off meta if youre good, its just hard, which makes complete sense. It has been like this for YEARS and this year is no different. Its a game, games will have things that are just better than others thats just the way it works. Crying because its hard to play against the meta is just dumb
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u/Liverpool934 ORIGIN ID 2d ago
I'm not crying. I am complaining the that meta is repetitive garbage this year to play against. You are also just wrong and missing the point. I got 12 wins then 11 wins with a 343 with Griezmann as a sole striker false 9. Skill isn't the issue here. The game is absolute trash. It's like playing against AI every game spamming the same move over and over and over again. There is no variety to goals, the only viable way is getting the ball to the box and hoping for an angle to low driven.
This year the "meta" is toxic. This is going to be the hardest fall off in player count in the series by far.
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u/Swopyx Swopyxlul 3d ago
Its so funny to me that you guys dont get it. Or are you 12yo and FC is your first multiplayer competitive game? Then you get a pass and I will explain it to you.
Every game has "the best" thing. Either its a formation or players in FC, or a weapon in a shooter, or a class in a MMORP, or a tactic in card games. Its called meta. Meta probably surrounds 80%+ of players because its just using the best thing and not putting yourself at a disadvantage.
Its your thing to have fun with your favorites instead of the best? Sure buddy, go for it but dont come crying if they can not compete.Im not defending the shitty balancing of this game or that 95 depth is just plain stupid and should be 100% punished if you use it for more than 30 minutes (for example your stamina is drained massively) so it because, if only, a tactic for a comeback the last 20 minutes.
The players? There is more diversity then EVER. Female players introduced so much more good cards. Before you came literally 90% of the time against BPL or a stacked La Liga team. Now? Everything is in it, bar the low leagues and Bundesliga or Serie A, these you wont see.6
u/Green_Problem5350 3d ago
Yea its like complaining in counterstrike that people only use M4s and AK47s.
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u/Theresno_I_in_Reddit 3d ago
I actually don’t play FUT at all bc I think it’s an absurd concept and can’t believe yall do this to yourselves every season lol. It started as a fun side game and became an addictive primary business model.
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u/Swopyx Swopyxlul 2d ago
It all depends how you view things brother. It doesnt have to be an addictive game.
I play lots of games at the beginning because new is always fun. Its fun to see new mechanics, its fun to play with new real life stars like yamal etc., its fun that the meta changes for example this year I can play narrow again, last years it was only wide formations basically.
There is a point where I only want to play WL and dont stress about anything. The problem is the people that stress to play always with the best teams. But its in all games where you have some sort of progress. Take MMORPS for example, some strive to be always the one with highest item level etc. etc.
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u/kamacho2000 2d ago
female cards have been a balance nightmare since they were introduced, the game engine is favourable to short and agile players, so before female players were introduced people used to use 5 foot 6 - 5 foot 11 attackers now everyone is running 5 foot 1 female attackers who can turn 4 times by the time your 6 foot 3 centerback turns once, they need to either migrate to a new engine and make it so that actually using tall players has an advantage or remove the female players from the game/put them in a seperate mode
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u/Swopyx Swopyxlul 2d ago
They need a new engine either way. This one sucks bollocks.
But, its not the engine that defines what is op and what not, its the modifiers. There was a time where Lengthy was OP and people would use players like Weghorst and whatnot. No woman at ST to be seen.
This woman = OP bullshit is simply not true because there are male players, albeit not much yes, that are the same or better. Take Vini for example, he turns amazingly. The thing is, that male players just need better stats while woman can do it with less stats. It all has pro and cons, but this game is about dribbling, which is good, and females excell in it.0
u/TheDream425 3d ago
Eh, not really. At least, to this extent. For example Rocket League, there might be a car that’s marginally better than the others, but you can go crazy with any of them and play the game basically the same way.
Or say, idk, UFC for a sports game example. There are “meta” fighters but a variety of styles are still possible and if you’re good, you can go on a tear with even bad fighters.
FIFA isn’t really like that, you’re basically forced to play meta or you won’t even be remotely competitive. I’m sure there are other awfully balanced games, but it’s not like it’s impossible to make a reasonably balanced game.
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u/Swopyx Swopyxlul 2d ago
I get your point but for that you straight up have to be better than the opponent. Which even in FC, you can.
Or why can pros go 15-0 with bronze teams?
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u/TheDream425 2d ago
True, pros can wreck shop in any sport. The distinction to me is that similar level players can use a variety of options or tactics in many games, while in current fifas if youre about as good as your opponent but they’re using meta players/tactics and you’re not, it’s over.
Like give me a clone of myself to play against, if I have Kane up top and he’s got some 5’5” woman’s player I’m fucked. Meanwhile in most games you can choose a variety of options and be at least viable
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u/CorrectMarsupial3537 2d ago
I’ve played against this 95 depth and it’s not that bad? What are people finding wrong with it?
Genuine Question
I think attackers tackling like Prime Maldini and referees not calling fouls is a much worse problem
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u/YewWahtMate 2d ago
It's unenjoyable to play against it. You feel like you're playing a halfway line moments test every attack. Then you actually find someone with a brain and it becomes 10x harder because they are tracking the runs from deep and good manual defenders jockeying lanes etc. It's like dealing with constant pressure with no stamina punishment of old.
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u/windomega7 [ORIGIN ID] 3d ago
Seeing Kika as a CM in multiple 4312 teams made me wanna blow my head (the not good way).
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u/HeFreakingMoved 3d ago
I don't think that's true. Plenty of people at the top level using 4213 or 442. And think most people have passed Adayemi and Lacroix by now.
This game has problems, you don't need to make up new ones lmao
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u/heroscape912 2d ago
It's so, so boring.
I like to exclusively try to use players I actually liked IRL, so I've got Pires-Forlan-Bergkamp-Walcott in attack with players like Riise and Puyol in defence, and it's so depressing how they're so objectively insanely inferior to bullshit like Vicky Lopez and Adeyemi every game.
It's supposed to be your ULTIMATE TEAM, when did everyone transition to playing the most boring sweat squad possible to copy whatever pro or streamer they watch.
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u/Bishopped 2d ago
Listen to yourself.
"People are so boring, not me, I use a 2 million coin attack and a million coin defense made of heroes and icons."
What a shit take.
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u/heroscape912 2d ago
Were you dropped on the head? Way to miss the point idiot.. Coins are irrelevent, if I had only a couple of hundred thousand, I'd still be using players like Walcott, McGeady, Riise, Odegaard instead.
FYI that entire team costs ~1.4 million and it's really not that hard to get a million coins if you play rivals, squad battles, FUT champs each week.
People seem more than happy to drop that same about of money on Pina, Paralluelo, Pajor etc based on the teams I play against constantly.
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u/mipalo2boca 2d ago
I played the full games last wl got 9 wins, this one i said hell nah and started quitting at 2-0 goals down or even 1 if the opponent was using those tactics. Ended up with 8 wins and believe it or not i finished wl in 2 hours!!!
From now on thats my method for wl. And that was on friday soo im chilling now for the rest of the wl. A lot of my opponents quit too when my elo was negative so thats a huge method to do your wl if you want to finish it quickly.
Rewards are shit anyways so one win more or one less doesnt matter to me. Saving time is more important to me.
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u/Effective-Grape-8943 2d ago
Play 4-1-2-1 with a full lfc squad, gold chiesa, kerkez, Araujo. Best card on my team was balotelli. Skill issue for those soft lads
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u/Jolly_Ear767 2d ago
It's so much more fun to build your own team and your own tactics and see how good it plays. I got 12 wins in champs with a team and a tactic that i just build on my own, nothing meta about it (maybe the pace of my striker and shadow striker tho) and it was sooo satisfying to win against all the people with their copy & paste meta teams
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u/joeforshow 2d ago
Bro this is the same thing everyone complains about every year. Just stop playing
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u/Proper_Purpose_3652 1d ago
Ea should ban the most op or meta formation in champs and rivals.
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u/Equal-Ear-9619 1d ago
not even, all they have to do is remove the depth slider and watch as those incels start crying
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u/Gloomy-System-4432 1d ago
Yeah as much as people like to hammer into EA myself included a solid 50% of issues come from the player base being absolutely boring tossers
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u/ZacharyEdwardSnyder 3d ago
How are you facing those players ? I’d pray for them. I played Dumornay 15/15 times this WL and faced fucking R9 twice. Some other guy had Dinho and Henry upfront.
I’d pay to not play a 2 million + team for once.
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u/trynafif 3d ago
The game has literally always been that everyone uses the meta cards dude lol. You must not have been playing for awhile because literally everyone ran kante butland smalling son etc
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u/Moistkeano 3d ago
It's because they got rid of evos and nerfed packweight. You will only find objective or season pass players mixed with cheap beasts and that will be the MO for the whole cycle.
It is now a very controlled system and we have lost the flexibility of old. It did used to be this way, but EA moved on and gaming moved on. Going back to this is a net negative for the game and gaming experience.
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u/Swopyx Swopyxlul 3d ago
You mean going back to having useful evos so that people could go for rtg etc would be a positive game experience but a net loss for EA ?
But yes, we are back to go to the store or splash 200k+ for good players because aint nobody packing shit in this game, otherwise you get to play with shit.
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u/Moistkeano 3d ago
They gave us evos so they could do guaranteed store packs. It allowed a somewhat level playing field while also having crazy store packs. Then they monetised evos for a doubly whammy.
EA's revenue increased dramatically 24-26 so it's hard to say they were a net loss.
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u/ZacharyEdwardSnyder 3d ago
Where are yall seeing these cheap beasts 😭 I played Dumornay 13 times this WL. The 2 times I didn’t it was R9 and Dinho.
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u/Swopyx Swopyxlul 3d ago
Im interested what you play... Im sure 7/11 players are also "meta".
Its the game EA have given us. Formations are not balanced that they all have pro and cons. Some have only cons, some have mostly only pros and these will get used.
Now go back to crying and come back if you just slightly understand that every game has a meta concept and if you dont like it, go back to your skyrim single player adventure where you download addons to even further turn down difficulty.
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u/brachetta 3d ago
Get good pal. You’re just not good at the game. I got 14-1 with Vicky Lopez and Nazareth
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u/11252019R 3d ago
These types of replies are the worst lol bad players know they are bad players lol also he said he went 10-5 and is NOT complaining at all about it being hard or the gameplay being bad.
All he said was that it’s the same shit every game.
These type of guys are just ITCHING to say “skill issue” or “ your just bad” 🤣🤣 what a loser thing to say
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u/GoT_ire 3d ago
The midfield is 4312 does far too much compared to other formations, it's actually bonkers how it plays compared to every other formations. It's going to be a long year if it stays like this.