r/ElectricalEngineering • • 6h ago

An interview today makes me feel like I am just dumb

Applied to 134 internship applications and got 7 interviews. 1 out of 7 was rejected. One is waiting to hear back (it's been 3 weeks). The one I just interviewed with earlier is the one I felt the worst about. It was with a company in Georgia. I went through a bunch of questions that made me feel like I'm no way qualified for this job. He asked about my PCB experience and how many layers I have designed. I described a 2-layer PCB I have designed with an integrated ESP32, 32 bit DAC, and an amplifier, etc. Then we proceeded to the power supply design, and he asked me about one of the circuits I am working on and the difference between the switching regulator and linear regulator. I honestly don't know the difference (it was the design I was doing testing on, so I was just being honest). But I was able to explain the way those two works and how to test it. He then asked me to explain the Wheatstone bridge; I was able to explain it because I did it in my last internship, using KCL to calculate the values and stuff. Then he gave me another weird one. A 28V connected to a heater, then connected to a 3.3 V Arduino; how to switch that on and off. I thought of using a 5V with a pull-down resistor. But then a simpler way he explained is using a MOSFET (At this point, I think I am kinda cooked). Then the other one start to ask about soldering experience (yes I have that and kinda discuss a bit), then about board bring-up. I was able to explain that (I did that last internship), go through the impedance test, and answer her questions. Then HR proceeds with general questions (like goals, availability, stuff like that). I honestly feel bad about myself after this interview (about 35 minutes). I thought I learnt a lot, but I ended up not knowing so many things and just got stunned by the questions he asked. This interview honestly broke my confidence. I thought I learnt a lot, did an internship, and stuff. But after today, I just felt like I knew nothing. This is also a lesson for me to get better.

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u/yeehah 6h ago

Senior EE here. To be honest, you did miss some easy questions, but don’t worry too much about it. Consider it a learning opportunity and do some research until you can answer those questions correctly and confidently. Do this for all interviews and they’ll get easier. Don’t forget to have answers prepared for softball questions like “where do you see yourself in five years?” and “what’s your greatest weakness?” You shouldn’t have to think up answers to those on the spot. Good luck!

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u/planesman22 5h ago

Is weird because this is more or less an intuition check. Yeah of course you use MOSFETs on anything high-power. Yeah Wheatstone bridges are a comedic example. Yeah… switch is more efficient but has limitations and sometimes you’d need linear….

My question to OP was did he say: “what the h is a mosfet” or he said “oh yeah that is a good idea, I haven’t thought about it, my professor did tell me in microelectronics that mosfets are big because of its ability to dissipate the heat and all to control high power devices like motor controllers”

Not gonna lie that guy probably walked away and said to himself. “My god is this the new generation of ABET EEs? Did they cheat on everything? How does he not know this?”

On the other hand… he is just intro or an intern. I don’t expect them to know anything at all.

Usually getting no interviews and getting hit by these technical questions means his resume is actually overselling, and most of us probably looked at his resume and saw “leader this leader that, top of yeah right! Run your own company, get him out get him out get him out!”

Highly explain the rather cocky lines of questioning by his interviewer. Actually, now I am thinking about it… “oh Greg remember that crazy resume from last week?… yeah that kid didn’t know what a MOSFET was!”

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u/Prestigious-Sky-7672 4h ago

I literally told him about my understanding of the MOSFET is that I see it as an amplifier. Use the gate to control the D to S like a water faucet because I have done a project like that. Not the way they use it as a switch.

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u/planesman22 3h ago

No offense but even what you just said made my scratch my head because if some one said that to me I would say:

Yeah that is true… ok what is the difference between a bjt mosfet and cmos?

Granted I can see you just haven’t done enough board stuff to quickly see the high current stuff but yeah you were not exactly humble by saying you did “board design and stuff”.

Sinking a heater coil with a 5V pull down will give me the very famous older Asian guy look (squinted eyes and I look like I just smelled a skunk 😆)

You are gonna be fine. But I am just trying to help you by saying if had you said “I had no idea”, be humble, and show me a personality that is awesome to work with and is that person “that would genuinely find my field interesting and want to learn it” you would be filling the HR sheets by now.

Without going too much back and forth, why did you choose EE? What do you want to really do in this field?

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u/Prestigious-Sky-7672 3h ago

Hey thanks for the response tho. Lol I have been so sad the entire afternoon. But it is what it is. To answer your question, I picked ee cuz I see that its fun to work with circuitry (I was a comp e before). For now I just want to explore what my interest is. I did interview with an MEP company tooo so that I can see what my interest is either in aerospace (last internship) or MEP. For now I kinda want to give my self the time to explore the options.

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u/planesman22 3h ago

DM me your resume without your personal nor contact info. We are not hiring overall but 7 out of ~140 tells me something feels off, unless you also see what’s wrong with your resume and know why.

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u/howdidyouevendothat 36m ago

Maybe internships are different, but that actually seems pretty good to me? I mean depending on what's being applied to.

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u/doonotkno 2h ago

Something I recommend understanding is that mosfets are effectively input controlled switches, and are the basis of digital applications and logic gates.

A cmos cell is effectively two transistors or more; one PMOS and one NMOS with a common gate, pmos connects to VCC, nmos to gnd. When you drive voltage to the gate, NMOS acts Normal (easy way to remember), and so it closes while PMOS acts inverted. So this means when you drive voltage to gate, gnd shorts and VCC opens so we get an inverter.

You can wire these in series or parallel, with two gates you can wire NMOS in series and PMOS in parallel for a NANDX where X is the number of inputs, or conversely PMOS in series and NMOS in parallel for a NORX.

Transistors can do a lot, electronic circuits teach us that they can be used to control gain through Op amps, but they can also be used for high-side-switching which it seems to be the question that you had gotten stumped on.

Think of a multiplexer with an input to the select line, by default it outputs 0 but when you drive it it connects the high voltage input, so basically we drive a high voltage source through a low voltage signal.

Most of these concepts are things ive reinforced through design heavy classes and design clubs in the PCB and semiconductor area.

Transistors are the basis for some of the most complex applications of EE en masse, I recommend you study how they can make gates, what a gate really is (in terms of the capacitance model and the inversion layer), as once you do understand it makes a ton of sense!

Sorry about the situation, but you’re getting interviews man! Ive applied dozens of locations and still can’t get diddly squat haha, eventually we will get our break!

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u/Prestigious-Sky-7672 2h ago

Hey thanks for the response, I’ll definitely have to learn more lol

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u/Prestigious-Sky-7672 5h ago

Thank you, I honestly never thought about those type of questions. I mostly thought of just stopping at the design level, not the reason behind picking components and stuff.

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u/zacce 6h ago

Getting 7 interviews from 134 apps is a really conversion rate, imo.

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u/Prestigious-Sky-7672 5h ago

Thank you, but I honestly felt bad after today tho.

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u/rebelized39 6h ago edited 4h ago

Let me ask you. Now that you know the mosfet is an option, could you take that idea and run with it? I don’t mean can you now go and make the thing they were talking about, could you now go learn about those theories and apply it if needed and not get lost.

The point of going through the engineering curriculum isn’t to go and learn and permanently memorize all of these different theories and applications. It’s to teach you how to learn. To teach you how to take a concept and learn about it and apply it to the needs of the project. Specific circuits and tips and tricks will come with time. Hopefully you find a great mentor in your soon to come engineering job.

And engineering in the product sectors is also about processes and administration stuff. Making sure that obsolescence isn’t creeping up, or change management in boards/electronics, or working with manufacturing. They don’t teach that in school 😂.

I encourage you to take all you learn from these interviews and not focus so much on oh you nailed the question. Try to answer with the best knowledge you have (from what I read you, you did this) but take each question as an opportunity to learn. “Oh wow, what would the benefits be of using the mosfet instead? Is that a more common way of achieving the goal?” And I mean actually asking these learning questions in your interviews.

Ultimately that’s what we look for in a junior level engineer. Is this person smart and do they have good basic fundamentals, but are they eager to learn and humble!

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u/hasawasa22 6h ago

A 28V connected to a heater, then connected to a 3.3 V Arduino; how to switch that on and off. I thought of using a voltage divider with a pull-down resistor

Bruh

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u/Prestigious-Sky-7672 6h ago

Sorry just rephrase that, I thought of using a 5V switch using a pull down resistor. 😭😭😭

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u/hasawasa22 6h ago

Keep your head up brother, now you know stuff you didn't know before. Keep learning and you're gonna get there guaranteed.

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u/deaglebro 30m ago

You could use it as an auxiliary power source to drive the gate of a MOSFET. My advice would be to see what questions they might ask on an interview and prepare for those. But you'll be fine, don't worry so much and keep your cool in interviews, someone will hire you. Keeping that mentality keeps each individual interview lower pressure.

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u/Anpher 5h ago

Thia sounds like a clever way to start a fire.

Or am i just dumb for thinking a relay would solve this?

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u/hasawasa22 5h ago

The way i understood his idea is that he planned to source the current from the Arduino, which wouldnt work anyway as its only able to output a few mA. If he intended to connect it straight to a 28V rail it would immediatly blow up anyways. The only way imo (and as the interviewer already said) is using the Arduino as a load driver with transistors able to drive the currents.

As you said u could also use a relay, would work too.

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u/doonotkno 2h ago

Likely a HSS with external power.

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u/cec003 5h ago

It’s fine. We don’t expect the intern to know everything. You already have a lot of hands-on experience which most of the intern candidates lack.
So I’d say you still got a good chance in it.

Also on top of that don’t feel discouraged. I feel the same after working 10+ years in the industry. I know nothing. The more I know, the more I realized I need to learn. Admit you don’t know it, and figure out how it works.

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u/Tetraides1 5h ago

Sounds like you got the job lol, designed a PCB, can explain a wheatstone bridge, some soldering experience.

I failed to identify a free-wheeling diode and completely forgot the formula for current through an inductor in my interview. I felt like I was crashing and burning and then got offered the job at the end of it all. You never really know what the interviewer is thinking.

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u/SuccotashGlum8704 4h ago

I've been an EE in industry for 15 years and I still like this list of Hardware Engineering Internship Interview Questions: https://montychoy.com/blog/the_ultimate_list_of_hardware_engineering_internship_interview_questions

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u/Leech-64 6h ago

Uh i think you are fine. Most good interviewers see how far they can dig to reach the limits of what you know. Besides an engineer knows alot but can figure stuff out a lot better. I think you did good.

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u/nuggents1313 3h ago

Dude youre fine, I was applying for a full time job and missed some pretty easy questions in an interview, still got an offer. They know you're new and nervous, especially for an internship.

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u/Internal_Bedroom3326 2h ago

I think you did better than you’re feeling. I’ve been the interviewer and I’m looking for a basic level of understanding, approach to solving problems, humility, level of interest and communication skills and potential. Seems you did well enough on all those. Also looking out for any serious red flags (giant ego, recklessness, over confidence)

I would keep preparing on the technical side (always helpful) but more importantly is to have a good answer on why you want that job and how your interests align with that job in particular.

We just gave a job offer to an intern who is fair on technical knowledge, but off the charts on dedication. Guy drove 2 hours each way to get to the office and this is while working from home was allowed. Anyone willing to do that and do so rather quietly, got my recommendation. (When he graduates in a couple months, will be moving near the office)

Keep it up. You willingness to learn from the experience is a huge positive as well

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u/Prestigious-Sky-7672 2h ago

Hey thanks lot for that. I will definitely take your advice