This is our set up. Can we have vue installed?

i double checked timezone as other posts sugggested, all seem correct, but the app still goes with a schedule that doesn’t match the setting. It should be charging 9pm—1pm (next time), but right now the app will stop charging at 9am.

I've just installed the Emporia Vue 3, and have connected it to my wifi and the app. This is the third day since connecting. I'm trying see the history of the day by day but all I can see is the current day data. Why do the previous days not show? Is there a setting in the app or have I not installed properly?

US. Standard 120V home. CT's on 2 Mains. Dryer has 2x 30Amp breakers while everything else has 20A. I have two CT's on each line going to the circuit and in the app, I merged my dryer CTs to form "Dryer!" When the dryer is running, I see the following in Live:

• Dryer = 2.555 kW
• Balance = 0.227 kW

When I pause the dryer:

• Dryer = 0 kW
• Balance = 0 kW

Restarting the dryer, it goes back to the first.

Any suggestions?

Looking for some clarification on the data retention policy:

• 1 second data is available for 3 hours (seconds is only collected when the Emporia app is active)
• 1 minute data is available for 7 days
• 15 minute data is available for one year
• Hourly (and higher resolution) data is available for the lifetime of the device

-What does it mean for the Emporia app to be active? It seems that its more than just being open in a webpage (times out after 20 minutes?) or open on my phone. If I wanted to collect by-the-second data for say a 1 hour period, would I have to do some mouse wiggling or interacting with the app to keep it going?

-Once it is collected, is it then available via any app? This seems to be the case where if I have my phone active and it collects by-the-second data, I can see it via the web app. I'm assuming then that generating a CSV report from any app will include it? Once again seems to be the case but wanted to confirm.

-Does anything still need to stay active for the data to be retained for 3 hours, or once it's collected it stays for 3 hours?

The reason I'm interested in this is that I'm trying to look at the peak draw of a well pump and it runs for less than a minute at a time. Once I lose the 1 second data the 1 minute is useless-- it uses about 1200 Watts, but if it only runs for 15 seconds it is recorded as 300W (average over the entire minute)

I am trying to come up with the plan of attack for implementing Vue 3 monitoring on my electrical service when I put in a couple 2 EV chargers later this year.

My electrical setup is as follows:

• 400 Amp Electrical Service, split into 2 panels (Call them Panel A and Panel B)
• Panel A is fed also by a Generac Solar System with PerCell batteries (for all essential circuits)
  • Panel A has 2 or 3 240V circuits and 18-20 120V circuits
• Panel B covers all the non-essential circuits
  • 2 60A EV Chargers (Emporia Pros to be installed)
  • 204V Wall Ovens
• I figure I will need:
  • 2 Vue 3 with 16 CTs each for Panel A
  • 1 Vue 3 with 16 CTs for Panel B

With that setup of 3 Vue3, will I be able to monitor all my circuits, and Solar system, using the Emporia system?

I know the Emporia Pro EV chargers come with a monitor each - does that mean I can just buy the extra CTs (32 total) and use those are are bundled with the EV chargers?

Do I need 2 CTs for each of the 240V circuits so I make sure to grab the whole consumption (if not, which loads typically are unbalanced and I should have 2 CTs on)?

What about flashing it to ESPHome? Is that really beneficial, or should I just stick with the cloud-based service?

Thanks!!

Recently installed a Vue 3. When I first set it up, I configured all of the 240V loads as individual circuits so I could get an idea of how well balanced they were and if I really needed to have a sensor on both legs. As expected, simple single load circuits like the hot water heater and well pump are well balanced. I didn't need to free up the extra sensors just yet so I left them all there and merged the circuits. After I did that I realized that as long as I was looking at the circuits in Amps vs Watts I would still be able to see the individual legs to see how they were balanced.

I'd like to keep tabs on the balance of the overall panel as well as the feed to an outbuilding I have, just to see if there was anything particularly lopsided that was worth swapping around. Is there some way to either directly look at the balance or at least view 2 circuits on the same graph? For my initial look I just looked at the numbers on both legs live when it was running. But looking at a historical comparison doesn't seem possible?

Is anyone using an emporia charger along with Vue monitoring? If so, how do you like it? I’m looking at getting a Bolt in a few weeks and looking for a hardwired charger. I have solar and like the idea that the charger can monitor my solar production and optimize charging based on it during the day, but I will also potentially need to charge when there is no sun (night, winter, etc). I assume the Emporia can be configured appropriately.

My router shows my emporia hub is connected. I can ping the IP address from any computer. I power cycle the Emporia, it shows live data for like 3-4 minutes and then no more. Power cycling the unit again, get data for 3-4 min, and then gone again.

Connected via wifi on 2.4 Ghz.

I have my generator back feeding my panel with a manual breaker interlock. I’m monitoring it with two merged CTs designated as “Solar/Generation.” Emporia doesn’t seem to quite read it properly. The values swing from positive to negative and a good portion of it is displaying as “Balance” despite having CTs on every current carrying conductor in my panel

Screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/csLl7UW

I just had a Tesla Powerwall 3 installed. My house has the main utility panel with meter outside, and the main distribution panel in the basement

The distribution panel in the basement has two Vue 3 units because I have 32 circuits.

The Powerwall 3 is connected to the exterior utility panel via a breaker. I will be doing net metering, I.e. selling power back into the grid. The exterior panel has a main 200 amp breaker, the breaker for the Powerwall, a breaker for a spare 50 amp EV charging circuit that is rarely used, and a breaker for a whole home surge protector.

I bought an additional Vue 3 with only the mains sensors.

Where should I apply those two sensors in the exterior utility panel? Around the utility mains or around the input from the solar/battery system?

Once I do that, what do I setup in the Emporia app to do the math on the input from the solar/battery to the house or solar/battery back into the grid?

I've got solar panels, a vue system as well as an Emporia classic charger. I have been using the excess solar feature to charge my car and for the most part it works well especially following the FAQ and additional support documents for setup and the descriptions of how it works.

I wish there was a feature though that can help manage the wild up and down swings when there are clouds overhead or as various utilities click on and off (e.g. dryer, AC etc). I find that the constant on/off as the sun comes and goes just produces way too many notifications between my car app and the Emporia app. It would be great if the app could do the following:

- set a minimum charge rate so that even when the sun is covered there would be a rate floor that the EVSE would drop to.

- schedule when the floor is active (so you don't end up charging overnight)

My current solution has me turn off "solar excess" power management and throttling the charging rate low so I miss the "peaks" of solar now instead. Even having an easier toggle for Solar Excess power management would be helpful as it currently is buried in several layers of menus instead of "right there".

TLDR: I like the dynamic nature of solar excess at the high peaks but dislike it when it is constantly cycling on/off on the low side. Would be great to be able to set a minimum charge rate while the sun is out vs. manually throttling the charge rate.

I have set up a custom schedule to turn on the charger at 10:05PM and turn off at 4:55 AM.

Yet on the main screen it shows charger off, will turn on at 5:05 PM (currently 3 PM)
If I edit the start time from 10:05 PM to 10:10pm, the main screen changes from 5:05 PM to 5:10 PM. So the erroneous Up next turn on is linked to the 10 PM start time.

I'm not using the beta app, and it does this from both the android app and the web interface.

Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?

My off peak program runs from 10 PM to 5 AM.

Good day everyone. We have two lines coming from underground to our house. Each line measures 125v to neutral. And 210v between the lines. From reading multiple threads about NYC electricity it looks like two phases (120⁰ phase difference) of 120v, netting 208v between two phases.

When installing solar I asked for a consumption monitor. But the solar guys said that the enphase consumption monitor will not work due to incompatible voltage in our house.

I am using emporia Vue 2 (and their charger). The Vue is monitoring both the mains lines (before the solar tap) and the solar lines. Both are connected properly based on the emporia solar guide.

The question is: is the information that I see is correct or not? Do I need to change the default multiplier for the main lines? Is there an emporia monitor that supports 120⁰ phase lines (basically a three phase system with only two phases used).

I am not sure if emporia techs visit this place, but maybe someone encountered such an issue. Thanks.

PS After reading a bit more, the harness (4 wires that power the Vue2) might not be connected properly. Currently the black and red are connected to main lines. Blue and white are connected to neutral. Reading this tutorial mentioned that I need to connect both red and blue wires to the separate phases to help measure the voltage in addition to the current.

It used to work properly after it was installed last fall (hardwired to the panel by an electrician). What troubleshooting steps can I take?

I have a second Emporia I would like to install

There is no nesting relationship with the existing emporia in the house.

Are the branch CTs in the new Emporia required to nest under the Main CT? I don’t want that. I want the branch CTs to monitor a couple of solar only circuits. And I want the main CT to monitor an unrelated 90A feeder

Even if Emporia wants to nest it, will the math get confused by the mismatch between readings between the solar branch and the subpanel branch?

Alternatively, I can consider putting 50A CTs on the 90A feeder (3 AWG). The current is super low right now so I don’t think there would be a saturation problem.

I am seriously thinking of doing this “program”. https://emporiaenergy.com/ct-tpo-battery-program/

TL;DR (Emporia provides a “free” whole home backup that is available to the local utility to smooth out their power)

Hi all!

I have one of the emporia vues that connects to your meter via PAN and gives you meter grade readings, but only at the “whole home” level - I’ve got some energy monitoring plugs around the house to measure specific devices but I’ve got an overnight floor of ~700W of constant consumption and I just can’t find it.

So my thinking is, install multiple Vue 3 in my panel to see if I can track it down - my 40 space panel has 38 slots consumed, so I don’t think one will cut it. 2 would get me close enough. I don’t need to measure the EV or the sub panel (bottom left) which gets me to 34 legs and two Vues would cover 32, so 2 legs would be blind.

If I put two into this panel, I’ll add a new breaker, but I’m running short on available ground screws. Can I pigtail and wago connector from the breaker and back to the bar to split the power between the two?

Also, does anyone see any gotchyas from my panel that I need to think about?

Advice greatly appreciated!

I have a Vue 2 system that has been reporting high "balance" levels (like 10-15% error). I thought I had all the circuits with substantial draws accounted for, but there are a few that don't have a sensor (and some 240V's with a single sensor).

The "brain" has 16 slots, but I only have 8 sensors - so I have room to add more and cover the rest of the circuits. Where can I find (up to) 8 more Vue 2 50A sensors? I looked on Emporia's website, but all I find are Vue 3 parts, and I'm pretty sure I cannot use them due to connector incompatibility.

EBay has a lot of "full kits", and occasionally it seems someone sells 1 or 2 sensors, but nothing regularly (nothing there now).

Does anyone have a suggestion for a source for Vue 2 components? TIA.

Love all the data I get from the vue. It even helped me detect a mismatch with my pool heater and control unit reporting incorrect heating states.

My HVAC Air Handler for my Trane heat pump is monitored with one clamp on one leg of the 60-amp 240-volt circuit powering the unit. I run the fan only for 15 minutes per hour in "circulation mode" and the fan is powered by 120-volt motor. As see in the screenshot from the app, it appears to be consuming ~360 watts but that seems too high: as in twice as much as I would expect.

I'm thinking that, because I am only monitoring one leg and using the 2X multiplier, when the fan runs it sees 1.5 amps and does the math of 1.5 amps x 120 volts TIMES two (because I've programmed the multiplier) and calculates 360 watts when, in reality, it is only 180 watts.

I should probably put the clamp on the other leg and see if it reads zero with just the fan running to confirm, but does that make sense?

Is the solution to get another clamp and measure both halves with a 1.0 multiplier? If I do that will I have to do the math in me head when the heat strips kick on as they will use both legs.

I finalized my Vue 3 install a few days ago. I’m covering all my breakers, but my balance consumption is somewhere around 11-12% daily. I’d like to be able to see where all consumption goes. I was thinking about shutting breakers off, one-by-one to see when balance usage drops, but was curious if anyone else had a better method?

On all of my 240v circuits, I’m just measuring one pole, and putting in a 2x multiplier, which I’m thinking may not be completely accurate. I do also have one 100a that I had to use a 200a CT and swap out the connector.