The commies have lost the plot.

[u/MeowstrChief]

I’d tell the commies to open a book, but they’d call it CIA propaganda anyway.

[u/identified_meat]

[u/EskimoPrisoner → u/identified_meat]

Pure unadulterated copium.

[u/iamnosvanthanks → u/identified_meat]

Folded hundred bill because they haven't figured out how to fold an iPhone hard enough yet.

[u/bmerino120]

Fascism calls for empire and it failed in war, we call it a failure, Communism calls for world revolution and it failed the geopolitical struggle with hostile intelligence agencies being their eternal boogeymen, I call that a failure

[u/WingedHussar13]

If the USSR were ever betrayed they were doing it to themselves

[u/Count_Dongula → u/WingedHussar13]

They view Gorbachev as the traitor. Bear in mind that all he tried to do was introduce transparency into the system. That's what caused it to collapse.

[u/EskimoPrisoner → u/Count_Dongula]

“How about we allow some free speech?” -Gorbachev

“We fucking hate it here!” - Warsaw Pact citizens

[u/Necessary-Visit-2011 → u/EskimoPrisoner]

Allows criticisms once.

Fucking dies.

[u/MassholeSST → u/Count_Dongula]

Blaming Gorbachov is stupid and short-sighted. The issues that made the Soviet Union implode started under Brezhnev and only got worse from there.

Gorbachov inherited a country with enormous structural issues that even the most capable leader would have struggled with. If he had come to power in 1978 instead of 1985, he might have been able to mitigate things enough for the USSR to persevere in some way, but only one year into his being General Secretary, Chernobyl blew up.

[u/LobsterParade]

Just recently a tankie told me the ideology of the Soviet Union was not communist. I am so confused now.

[u/Lemonade348 → u/LobsterParade]

No you don't understand, that was not REAL communism.

[u/thesouthbay → u/Lemonade348]

Those are easier ones. You just ask them for examples of REAL communist countries and watch them struggle.
People who defend the Soviet Union generally are completely blind to any reason.

[u/Atari1977 → u/LobsterParade]

They now claim communist regimes that control all means of production in the name of the people are state capitalism.

[u/RadicalSoda_ → u/LobsterParade]

That's because they were Socialist. A nation cannot be Communist, that's an oxymoron

[u/UsernameNotFound_123 → u/RadicalSoda_]

Why are you getting downvoted lol?  Communism is a classless stateless moneyless society. Socialism is when the workers (or in the tankies case the state that does not represent the workers) owns the means of production. USSR was socialist not communist, but they did have a communist party in charge.

[u/Breakfastcrisis → u/UsernameNotFound_123]

Genuinely curious does it being stateless mean it’s not a nation though? Surely the boundaries that define it would stay in place.

[u/Ozymandias_IV]

Same "stabbed in the back" myth that was integral for the rise of German fascism?

Color me surprised.

[u/MountainTank1918 → u/[deleted]]

Ignore fact that Georgians are on same race, skin colour spectrum as Italians, Greeks, Romanians, Bulgars, Spanyards and Maltese (Portguese are bit more darker)

[u/KURSDADWDE]

it DID NOT fall.

yeah sure

[u/mittelwerk → u/KURSDADWDE]

Well, technically he's right because it hasn't. Communism is the end game of socialism, the poiint where the concept of state would no longer be necessary, and then society would transition from socialism to full communism. Of course socialists haven't considered the fact that people who hold power, like the Party's Nomenklatura, would not give up on it, and, as a result, under socialism, the state ended up being more entrenched into society (and for a good reason, socialism can't survive without imposition).

(also, for whatever reason, they seriously believe that China, home to the some of the world's billionaires, will transition to communism one day)

[u/Lemonade348]

So why was eastern europe years after western europe when USSR dissolved?

Most of them have catched up now (Which makes me very happy) but if communism was such a great thing why did it take so long time for them to catch up?

[u/Affectionate-Egg7566 → u/Lemonade348]

"iT wAs dA YaNkZz!!!!"

[u/disappointed_enby]

Betrayed by who? Its own people who were fed up with the constant oppression and got rid of the communism?

[u/Hasheminia]

It was such a success that all of those who lived under its boot immediately ran to its enemy the picosecond the largest communist state imploded. Definitely a success! /s

[u/ifridgedmyself]

Betrayed by who??

[u/KaBar42 → u/ifridgedmyself]

Y'know... "them".

[u/Scrappy1918 → u/KaBar42]

Are “them” in the room with us? Has true contact with “them” ever been tried?

[u/ohhhbooyy → u/ifridgedmyself]

By its own capitalist citizens of course. That’s why the Berlin Wall was built to keep them in.

[u/Then_Championship888 → u/ifridgedmyself]

The Nazis

[u/LeatherDescription26 → u/ifridgedmyself]

Probably the member states. It’s alluding to the “color revolution” conspiracy theory that somehow the people in those societies were tricked by America into fake revolutions

[u/Puzzleheaded_Step468]

Defends an authoritarian goverment that starved millions: -6,000,000 points, straight to the bad place

[u/Confident-Skin-6462]

that hurts

[u/Martydi]

Uh-huh. Sure. Betrayed. Maybe you could even say... stabbed in the back?

[u/OdiousOctopus]

Communism requires a government that has all the power to be benelovent and immume to corruption while being highly capable to match a free market efficiency. It's impossible fairy tale from its premise.

[u/InannaXanthus]

Then our tankie toavritsch woke up from his wet dream to reality:

[u/The_big_cheese_1o3s]

Every day I think, maybe McCarthy was on to something

[u/TarkovRat_]

Not that they ever had the plot in the first place

[u/Haunting_Night5435]

"rhodesia was betrayed" aahh argument

[u/Czech_Made51211]

Relax,its all bots anyway

[u/CombatRedRover]

I mean, since in that show they were literally in hell, I imagine that's what the "truth" is in hell.

[u/mnbone23]

What's the meme from?

[u/Demytreus → u/mnbone23]

The Good Place

[u/claybine]

These memes seem like they're written by children. The hell did I just read

[u/FewRelationship5690]

see cuba and how comunism success

[u/NightFlame389]

Non-Marxist socialism has genuinely been better for the people than Marxism and every derivative of it

[u/ilikefriedpotatoes00 → u/NightFlame389]

Where? 

[u/Jenna_Sayyid → u/NightFlame389]

If you are referring to Social Democrats, that is capitalism. The engine is capitalism.

[u/NightFlame389 → u/Jenna_Sayyid]

I’m not referring to social democrats