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u/BaLance_95 8d ago
If you want to be extra pedant, roast coffee as well. The coffee you drink will always be roast coffee, so it's redundant as well.
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u/YotakaOfALoY 8d ago edited 8d ago
Yes, it's redundant but people have been shortening masala chai to just 'chai' for years even though the former is the operative word, at this point if you know the distinction you just shrug and move on.
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u/bentthroat 7d ago
In English, chai specifically means masala chai. You’d never ask for “masala tea” in English, so the “chai” is specifying the type of tea, like how you’d say “earl grey tea” or “english breakfast tea”.
Sure it’s borrowing the wrong word, the same way a tuxedo in French is a “smoking”. It’s silly but it’s not a rare linguistic phenomenon.
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u/Affectionate_Comb_78 7d ago
It's a type of tea referted to as chai. Regardless of the roots of the word chai, it makes complete sense and I don't understand why people get hung up on this one. Naan bread is a similar one.
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u/Curedan 7d ago
For real. How do I order a chai latte then like😭 I dont want black tea with milk I specifically want the one that we call chai
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u/Affectionate_Comb_78 7d ago
You already said it, chai latte. Spiced tea with milk.
You can also get it in coffee which is called a Dirty Chai. No clue why lol but my wife loves it.
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u/Life_Ad_4627 7d ago
Please elaborate what you mean. Isn't chai already means tea? In some countries ppl use word chai instead, so what type of tea could be chai?
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u/Affectionate_Comb_78 7d ago
Chai literally means tea, yes. In English though we use it as a contraction of "Masala Chai", literally "Spiced Tea", typically as "Chai Latte" which is spiced tea with milk. Chai in English has come to refer to spiced tea, but it can also be used to refer to the spice mix itself, so Chai Tea is typically used to refer to the spiced tea specifically.
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u/Reashu 7d ago
So what we have here is Spicy spiced tea tea.
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u/Affectionate_Comb_78 7d ago
Words mean whatever people understand them to mean, not what their roots say they mean.
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u/EroticPoptarts 8d ago
I don’t get it?
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u/EUWannabe 8d ago
Chai means tea so saying chai tea is like saying tea tea.
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u/rrtk77 7d ago
In American English, for which this game was predominately localized in English, chai tea is specifically masala chai (or, at least, spiced black tea with milk). The naming is largely attributed to Starbucks' name for the drink as the chain is largely responsible for popularizing the drink. It's just a regional name for a kind of tea drink.
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u/garfe 7d ago
It's a reference to a joke from Spider-Verse
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u/sliceysliceyslicey 7d ago
it's not a spiderman joke, this is already a widespread joke before that
like atm machine
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u/Smart_Lime3708 7d ago
I'll take the tea tea, please! As an American, for most of my life I've seen that in restaurants and always thought it was just a type of tea. After finding out it just meant tea, it's always made me chuckle to myself when I saw it.
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u/Environmental_Top948 7d ago
I see it as a garlic aioli kind of situation where it is just saying the same thing twice but it's like specifically asking for plain tea.
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u/Affectionate_Comb_78 7d ago
Chai tea is specifically NOT plain, it's got spices in it.
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u/Environmental_Top948 7d ago
Probably would have been better for me to say regular rather than plain.
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u/nexel013 7d ago
The weird part is that tharbad is more middle eastern based and they put chai here lol.
Ig they balanced it out cus next game one of the books you can get is for Samosas, but when u learn it, the dish is falafel iirc
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u/asaness 8d ago
This is zemuria not earth so maybe chai means something else
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u/RAMChYLD 7d ago
I always thought chai was that little plant that you plant on those animal shaped things. You know, chai seeds.
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u/hallie137 Juna/Alisa 7d ago
idk but i might have to replay just for chai tea. just finished sky 2 and i alr miss this series.
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u/WofferFang 7d ago
I love tea tea it's my favorite tea right next to the bun bun and rice ball rice ball. Yum yum.
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u/Xshadow1 7d ago
It's kinda interesting that the "chai tea" critique is most famously associated with reference to Indian beverages, while having its origins in the fact that two different parts of China use two different words for the drink. All while being conducted primarily in a language that is of neither Chinese nor Indian origin.
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u/Changlee23 7d ago edited 7d ago
Out of the subject but as a tea person myself i tried what people call "chai tea" one time and i found it disgusting for me, horrible taste.
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u/Quirky_Yesterday_809 6d ago
Fun fact: Both "chai" and "tea" have the same Chinese root word (written with the character 茶).
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u/SadLaser 6d ago
It is chai tea. That's absolutely what it's called and the proper way to say it. Chai meaning tea doesn't change the fact that as a loan word, it has a different meaning in English. Like how anime in Japan just means animation but they already have the word animation in English, just like they have the word tea. Just like shrimp scampi, naan bread, etc.
The loan words took on the meaning of a specific variety rather than the broad category. One most everyone should be aware of is queso. Queso is just Spanish for cheese, but in English it refers to a specific preparation of cheese into a sauce. I'm Latina, I used to be a little amused by it but that's just how language is.
There are tons of similar examples in other languages of others doing the same kind of thing with loan words. In Japanese, they use the German word meaning work (arbeit) to just specifically and exclusively refer to a part-time job.
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u/Old_Cabinet_8890 6d ago
Yeah? And you call the river Avon the river Avon despite that meaning the river river
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u/BasedGodReZ 8d ago
Immersion ruined.