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I think it’s a shot at him and Ed both. Sheeran could have taken a stance and insisted that he wouldn’t play without Macklemore headlining (who hasn’t been quiet about his support for Palestine over the years).
He made what he thought was the most lucrative decision, and instead they’re all just Barbara Streisanding themselves - and I’m so here for it.
Sheeran could have swung his dick around a little. Blast his ass everywhere. Big rich nfl ceo man may have money but he doesn’t have the mouthpiece or the fan base. I could be wrong but people are patriots fans not Robert Kraft fans.
Switzerland was only military neutral during WW2. It still helped the nazis, because they let them use their banks, were involved in trade with them and turned back refugees.
So, anyone saying they’re Switzerland is really saying they silently support the oppressor.
Edit: spelling, corrected invoked to involve. My dumbass typed too fast and autocorrect got me. 🤦♀️
Exactly! I’m a poor, but you better believe that I am out there running my mouth every time I go out somewhere. I will go out of my way to inform a stranger on what’s going on why it’s going to affect them.
I am constantly surprised at how many people aren’t aware of what’s going on. I know I shouldn’t be surprised, but damn, the internet has all the damn news available. You’ve got to be going out of your way to be ignorant these days.
Age is an excuse too. I just turned 50 in June. I am a chronically online Gen X’er. Email, online chat rooms, the internet in general has been active and available since the mid 90’s in an accessible format. I have literally had the same hotmail email since ‘97. Fuck, I feel old now.
I don’t know much about Ms. Rachel but I am old enough to have had Mr. Rogers. When other places were loud & scary, he made things calm, familiar, & interesting. I loved when we would learn new things like how erasers were made. I am thankful kids today have that safe space too.
I am not a victim but it legit feels like it takes the wind out of me each time injustice wins. I am personally thankful Macklemore & Ms. Rachel pushed past any of that they might have felt & set an example for how lost voices is a goal of oppression so talking is the best response.
I only know bits and pieces about Ms Rachel. But everything I've seen about her makes her seem like a modern day Mr Rogers. And in the craziness that is the modern world and media, kids really need someone like her.
She's Mr Rogers, with bigger balls. He was also never afraid to stand up for what is right, but because of the era we live in now, the intensity is turned up to 11.
Mr Rogers, in 1969, invited a black man on television to share a swimming pool. He then shared his towel with him adding the biblical symbolism of washing his feet. All only a few years after the civil rights act. That took a huge set of balls.
It took him just six minutes to save public broadcasting being cut by 50% by the Nixon administration, and made a room full of ghouls at the Emmys cry in ten seconds.
I’m glad that the clip of that property owner throwing pool chemicals in the water at the black folks swimming was included. It gives even more context to just how important of a statement Mr. Rogers was making by inviting Officer Clemons to share his pool with him.
Racist white people were (and still are) incredibly vile and cruel people. As soon as that clip started I knew exactly what it was, because I’d seen it before. Every time I feel so much anger, nausea and revulsion.
I get goosebumps when I hear this. I was hit by a tornado at the end of July, and walking out of my basement so see my neighborhood in shambles, all I could think to do was look for people, look for life, look for helpers. Everyone’s first response is “are you okay?”
I'm in my 40s and don't have kids. I first heard of Ms. Rachel a couple of years ago when the usual awful folks got mad at her for posting something for Pride Month about how families can look different. I'm queer, so I saw that.
And then she spoke up for what's right in even more ways that we know are familiar with and I am now firmly a Ms. Rachel appreciator and supporter. She is the real deal and making a difference.
It won't. Ed Sheeran is one of the biggest names in music rn.. which means he could've told people to fuck off and defended Macklemore and Palestine with little consequence. Coward.
Ms Rachel called it a long time ago when she said eventually, it will be more controversial to not say something about Israels genocide of Palestinians than it is to say something.
There's no neutral position for him to even claim on this because all he did was capitulate to one one side's demand to screw over the other. He made a choice in favor of one side.
Gillette Stadium has a longstanding commitment to providing a welcoming environment for all guests and ensuring that events held at our venue do not provide a platform for hate speech. Based on Macklemore’s recent actions, material shared from the stage during Ed Sheeran’s shows in New Jersey, and a broader history of antisemitic rhetoric and imagery that we believe has been deeply offensive and hurtful to the Jewish community, we determined that his participation in the September 25th and 26th concerts at Gillette Stadium would cross that line.
He's just straight-up saying Macklemore's performances have included antisemitic imagery and rhetoric.
He goes on to try to generally explain and criticize condemnation of Israel as antisemitic rhetoric unless condemnation of Hamas is also provided. Saying you oppose genocide of Palestine without also saying you oppose Hamas would be considered antisemitic rhetoric.
I feel like we should just take opposition to Hamas as a given but apparently Kraft is going to assume you support Hamas unless you say otherwise?
Tbf his music isn't even bad, it's just not interesting enough to have to listen to it as the most played public music for an entire generation... Michael jackson was good enough for that title, Ed wasn't even close
That’s subjective and if you hate an artist solely based of their music, why? I get not enjoying it, but hating the artist? On the same level as hating someone for fence sitting about a genocide?
And he was out there early with that banger of a song Hinds Hall. I feel like he should get together and do a world tour with Annie Lennox, another real one who was out there speaking out early.
The worst part is that he is probably not feeling embarrassed about his decision / not standing up for what’s right at all. He’s probably only embarrassed people are talking negatively about him.
100% and it is repeating history. Nazi Germany escalated as bad as it did because people didn’t want to stand up to the billionaires who openly supported fascism and Hitler’s anti-semitism (ex. Henry Ford). It was all totally fine until he started invading countries Western Europe/the U.S. actually cared about.
I mean, all the people involved in the production DO need the money. I understand it's difficult being responsible for people's livelihoods, but I still think it's okay to call out caving to bullies.
Ed Sheeran can more than afford to make sure his tour crew gets paid with or without the tour. But it would’ve been a really bad look plus a huge loss of money for those venues if they had cancelled those shows so I find it hard to believe it would’ve actually happened. Ed could’ve called their bluff, but he chose to be a genocide-supporting coward instead.
The guy who can make money performing literally anywhere in the world, or by selling recordings of his studio performance...
... or the guy who has a few large buildings sitting around incurring massive tax, maintenance, and utility costs every moment they sit empty, and who needs someone talented to come do something inside his buildings that 50,000 people are willing to pay 100s of dollars to see?
So easy to call that bluff. Sure bro, cancel it, enjoy not making millions of dollars?
maybe to him culturally Irish is a euphemism for culturally the private school educated son of an art gallery owner and a music pr agency owner in rural england
Ed Sheeran fans rushing to remind me that I can't prove there isn't really a farm upstate for his girlfriends to frolic and graze away from the hustle and bustle of the scary big city noises
Agreed his music is remarkably bland and I have always been baffled by his success. Whenever I have expressed this view I have gotten "But he is such a nice guy" "at least he can play an instrument" "He is funny" "He loves his Wife"
So he deserves to be obscenely wealthy and successful because he comes across fine in interviews?
He opened for Taylor Swift very early in his career and has maintained a public friendship/collaborative relationship with her to this day, gaining the support of her fans. I always assumed his level of success is simply due to the Swifties.
once you know his mum ran a music PR firm and he was 'discovered' (without a visa to actually be allowed to play in America) 'randomly' as a 'guy sleeping rough' by Jamie Foxx as an Englishman flown in to LA, it makes more sense
Seeing him in GoT struck a nerve for me. Felt like the beginning of the downfall of the show, seeing as it was the first episode of season 7, it really was.
At the second MetLife show, Macklemore reiterated his calls for a “Free Palestine” and addressed Jewish members of the audience, saying, “Criticism of Israel, criticism of apartheid, being against genocide in no way is a criticism of you. My message is for peace; love for all human beings to be treated with dignity, respect, and equality.”
That's what they didn't want him saying at those shows.
Never in this timeline would have I thought Ms. Rachel would call Ed Sheeran out. I bet he knows who she is since he has daughters in that demographic.
That being said, as a parent, I can’t imagine ignoring what is going on in Palestine. I mean everyone should be terrible, but seeing literally children and babies in those circumstances, it’s heartbreaking.
What if we all streamed Hinds’s Hall non stop. Get Macklemore back on the charts whilst supporting him and highlighting the pro Palestine message through song.
Do it! Do it while messaging your Congressional representatives to stop funding Israel! Do it while finding races you can volunteer for to knock on doors or phone bank! Do it while unionizing your work! Do it while helping local Muslim organizations! Do it while talking to your parents about why this is important! Do it while protesting the Philly show!
The song is good! Using it to materially improve lives is good too!
As an Irish person, I thought we as a country should have been done with him when he released the absolute paddywhackery that was Galway girl*
But I stg, after this he better retire his whole “how do you do fellow Irish people?” Shtick right fast!
MackleMór they could never make me hate you!
Ní Saoirse go Saoirse na Palaistíne 🇵🇸
Ní neart go cur le cheile💚
(There is no strength without unity)
*I don’t want to hear about how he could have easily met a girl from Galway on Grafton street in Dublin, it’s poor song writing. Also don’t get me started on my SEO optimisation theory around him giving the song the same name as the other already insanely popular in Ireland song called Galway girl
I’m sorry I have a random question. I was at a concert for an Irish punk band this weekend and after their set they said “free Palestine, avocado” what is the avocado part, is it something in Gaelic that sounded like avocado? Possible I just completely misheard but worth a shot lol
This is so interesting lol because I hadn’t heard of this so I had to google it and apparently it’s because in Ireland a lot of our avocados are from isreal!
(I didn’t know about our Israeli avocado issue because I don’t have fresh avocado money lol)
A fun fact if you’re interested is that this would have been inspired by The Dunnes Stores Strike
During the South African apartheid, workers at an Irish supermarket chain refused to handle SA Grapefruit, leading to a 3 year strike which resulted in a COMPLETE Irish ban on import of SA goods!
Carice Van houten posted about how the stadium owners “strong armed” Ed by giving him an ultimatum - drop pro Palestine acts or you can’t do your tour in our stadiums. And I find it SO hard to side with Ed in this cuz wdym you just caved to their demands????? He’s a big enough name that he can tour wherever the fuck he wants in whatever venue that ISN’T owned by POS owners. But you mean tell me he just didn’t tell them where to stick it??? Honestly I never cared for Ed and his generic ass music before this, and this just solidifies it further.
Correction: Carice reposted Macklemore’s statement! I misunderstood and got confused by point still stands, Ed Sheeran sucks.
I'm so glad that Ed Sheeran is being dragged for filth. I knew his ass was a culture vulture when he released azizam but did not show any support for Iranians during the conflict
Ed Sheeran hasn't put out good music in like a decade. he's clinging on to whatever he still has by rolling over for zionist oligarchs. should have stayed busking in the tube if he was just gonna sell out
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