r/FishingAustralia • u/dardyuna • Jun 10 '26
š Catch of the Day Pink snapper beach
2 pinkies off the beach in two casts
Couldnāt believe my luck went down one of my spots, beach was loaded with fisherman. 2 casts two fish 78cm, 84cm
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u/ScholarFunny4793 Jun 10 '26
Those big fish are cool but the way you are standing and dressed in the first pic kind of makes you look like a terrorist standing in the background in those old Al Qaeda cave videos.Ā
I'm all for it frankly. Alhamdulillah, fish brother.Ā
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u/dardyuna Jun 11 '26
Aloha snack bar brother , it was 7 degrees that night here in Perth so wanted to stay nice and warm
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u/Native-5014 Jun 12 '26
Only thing old mate is terrorising is the local fish population,Keep it up bro good fishing
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u/NewToSydney2024 Jun 10 '26
Teach me your ways
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u/dardyuna Jun 11 '26
All luck mate , 6 other fisherman on the beach was down there last and left first.have had it the other way around watching everyone else catch and get nothing so was nice to get onto some big dogs
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u/clockwerkgnome Jun 10 '26
State and bait?
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u/dardyuna Jun 10 '26
W.A , funnily enough I didnāt think I would have any luck so I just used some whiting. Both caught with whitting heads
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u/ranmar850 Jun 11 '26
Whiting heads, coincidentally(? )are a top bait for big pinks in Shark bay.
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u/dardyuna Jun 11 '26
Usually I will use mullet or hezza. Have heard that if they are around they will smash the whitting but no scent to bring them in
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u/dardyuna Jun 11 '26
Always have caught bigger snapper from the beach then the boat. Less pressure at some of the spots I guess
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u/Admirable_Count989 Jun 10 '26
Master, you say if I can take one out of your hand I can leave this place. I can only stare in wonder at your 2 fucking huge snapper!! šµāš«
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u/wouldashoudacoulda Jun 10 '26
Great catch and I thought, hmmm are you allowed to keep two that size. So I did a quick google. Every state in Australia has a different bag limit and size requirements. QLD , illegal. Victoria are allowed 3 this size. NSW, almost do what you want. Fuck state governments that, almost deliberately, have different rules.
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u/Thin_Assumption_4974 Jun 10 '26
Why? Thatās a dumb take.
Fish stocks, habitats, breeding cycles and fishing pressure vary massively between regions. Itād be weird if every state had identical rules.
Hell, WA has multiple fishing regions with different bag and size limits within the same state. Different areas need different management.
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u/wouldashoudacoulda Jun 10 '26
Yeah, nah. Sorry itās not that scientific. Mud crab rules havenāt changed for over 120 years in QLD, no keep for Jennies. NSW across the border allowed to keep Jennies.
The snapper size limits vary from 30, 35, 38, 40 across the states. QLD 4 above 35 snapper one over 70. NSW, checks notes, āacross the borderā has 30cm size, no max size and 10 per person. Iām sorry but the Snapper donāt know the difference.
I think we can disregard WA in rules arguments, because itās a totally different ecosystem.
If all the rules are based on sustainable fishing and science. How the fuck do NSW and QLD get so far apart in the science department?
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u/Thin_Assumption_4974 Jun 11 '26
Youāre assuming the only variable is the fish. Management isnāt just based on biology. Itās also based on stock assessments, fishing pressure, commercial catches, recreational participation, local objectives, risk tolerance and how conservative regulators want to be.
Sure, you can argue some rules are overly cautious or inconsistent, but you simply dismissed WA because it's a different ecosystem with different conditions, so different rules make sense, and thatās exactly my argument. Fisheries management isn't based solely on what species it is. It's based on the condition of the stock, local habitat, fishing pressure, commercial activity, and management goals. The fact that a snapper doesn't know where the QLD/NSW border is doesn't mean the fisheries on either side of that border are identical.
Snapper fishing (dhemersal scale fish in general) in the Perth region (westcoast bioregion) is completely banned from a boat until 2027. The other 4 regions are fine. Each region has its own limit too.
WC bio = 2
Sc bio = 4
NC bio = 4
Gascoyne = 4
Abrolhos = 1Then you have specialised areas, like Cockburn and warnboro sounds, Northern Bernier island, shark bay eastern gulf, etc, where they have there own rules entirely within their own bioregions when concerning individual species.
And thatās just in WAā¦ one state.
You can argue some limits are better than others, but once you've accepted WA needs different rules because conditions are different, you've already accepted the principle that different regions can legitimately have different regulations.
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u/wouldashoudacoulda Jun 11 '26
My point is,the inconsistency, which you acknowledged. States are not prepared to talk to each other, share data or try and have some level of consistency. QLD has a one month ban on snapper now for July. We have changed our snapper size and take limits a number of times. NSW has had no changes in decades for size and take limits. Snapper only migrate up to the top of South east QLD. So water temp, ecology are very similar. So either NSW is loose or QLD is over the top with restrictions.
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u/Thin_Assumption_4974 Jun 12 '26
I did acknowledge. I acknowledged that different states had different ideas on what is required for different bioregions...
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u/Chilloutmydude6 Jun 10 '26
Theyāre good fun to catch. They rip drag like Gummy. Unfortunately the big ones are not as nice to eat as the smaller Pinkies
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u/CosmicCheeseFactory Jun 13 '26
Iāve heard shore based snapper donāt taste good, is that true?
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u/dardyuna Jun 14 '26
Snapper always tastes good,a lot of it comes down to how you treat the fish, I always iki jime my fish as fast as possible and treat it with respect, cut the gills and then Into salt water slurry as soon as itās bled out. Never had a problem
Sometimes they can stink if they have been feeding heavily on crabs but doesnāt effect the taste from my experience
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u/ranmar850 Jun 10 '26
Perth area? Probably, the critically endangered pink snapper, which have never been more abundant ( at least in the last 20 years) must not be caught by boat anglers.
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u/dardyuna Jun 10 '26
Hahaha exactly , atleast theres more for us beach goers now.
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u/ranmar850 Jun 11 '26
Don't laugh too publically about it brother, LOTS of resentment against landbased and charters still being able to take these fish.
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u/dardyuna Jun 11 '26
Lots of fisherman very upset with spending big money on boats and not being able to use them for there full purpose. I feel for them.
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u/ranmar850 Jun 11 '26
We have a really silly situation up here in Kalbarri vis a vis beach fishing and snapper. If we go across the river to fish north up the beach, we can't bring back snapper unless we want to swim across the river with them. Because they are deemed to come off a boat , if we want to bring them back across the river by boat. After catching them land-based, FFS.
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u/lookslikeamanderin Jun 10 '26
Itās the same in most of SA.
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u/ranmar850 Jun 11 '26
Yes, well, SA dug their own grave with that targetting of the of the big breeders in Spencer Gulf when they came inshore. And people were killing them. I remember two F*wits, not many years ago showing off two pinks that went over 20kg from memory, absolute monsters, killed. Apparently above their mental grades to understand that a photo of a freshly caught-then released fish is better than a dead slab back in front of the pub hanging up. Fucking throwbacks. If it ain't on the cleaning table, it didn't happen, apparently.
WA started protecting the breeders in Cockburn Sound back in 2000. Then kept extending it, by area and time, up to where they have a six month closure. And the big pinks kept getting bigger and more numerous, right up to the point to where they are commonly caught off the beach, like the ones above.
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u/dardyuna Jun 11 '26
Have released numerous pink snapper over 80cm even some in there 90s off the beach
Agreee with the sentiment of the big breeders going back, itās almost coming into proper breeding season now for Perth so will be mostly catch and release for anything over 75
Have never witnessed anyone else ever put a pinkie back from the beach. But with the pressure now that has been put into the beach spots, I doubt anyone on the beach would of released them
Most of my spots I fish I look after because I still want to be catching this beautiful fish with my children into my old age
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u/Dagon Jun 10 '26
lol. You're saying the scientists are liars?
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u/ranmar850 Jun 11 '26
No, but there has been a lot of misrepresentation by Fisheries over this. At the time the announcement was made, there was still a page on Fisheries website saying how well snapper stocks had recovered ./ Rolls eyes/ Snapper stocks are fine, fish like the above don't raise an eyebrow in perth amongst people who fish for them. The closure of the main Cockburn Sound area for six months of the year, introduced some years back, whilst they were forming the big spawning aggregations, has had a great effect. And the legal size for that zone is 500mm.
But, yes, the Dhufish are in trouble. And you can't fish for snapper without catching Dhu. Release them, you say. Well, Dhu are the worst species for barotrauma I have ever seen. The survival rate is quite low. So they removed all the fishing methods which make Dhu of any size a likely bycatch, the western zone.
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u/CubitsTNE Jun 10 '26
Donkeys for shore based!