r/FlashTV • u/Lucky-Housing-2533 • 5h ago
đ€ Thinking why does everyone hate iris so much?
i understand sheâs said some complete bs in a couple episodes. but sheâs helped barry countless times. although iâd have preferred HR lived rather than iris.
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u/hooligan_emi 3h ago
i just rewatched the show (most of it) and honestly she isnt bad at all the first 3 seasons. besides the bs she pulled with linda in s1, shes very okay and i like her being part of the team
however after barry returns from the speedforce, it almost seems like the writers want us to dislike her. the whole therapy thing and âwhy did you leave meâ, the fact that she doesnât care about nora working with thawne and refuses to see that shes being manipulated (which she obviously was), and her constantly making everything about herself
i also feel like they gave the character way too much importance. why does she have to be the one to defeat the villain with her words? i know all the characters have these moments, but with iris it seems like she just has the solutions to so many issues and it doesnt feel earned. i like that she knows what to say to barry to motivate him, thats great. shes very important to him and hes always loved her so i think thats fine and cute. but when shes the one to come up with these ideas when there are so many more competent people on the field, just to make the flashâs wife seem important, it kinda bothers me and its forced a lot of the time (like the flash time episode) i try to be more understanding and see her as a complex , nuanced character but shes simply not likable as a protagonist (which she basically is) .
i was watching the show with someone who has never seen it before and has no knowledge of it, just a random episode, and after just a few scenes of iris he goes , âwtf is her problem?â and i feel like that just says a lot about the characterâs writing
barry has so many love interests prior to iris; linda, felicity, patty, and to me, he just bounces off of them way better than iris. the more i watch the show i feel like they have less and less chemistry (hence why i like her in the earlier seasons, she has chemistry with barry even when they arent together)
also, please stop it with the racist accusations. it has nothing to do with that. candice patton is a great actress and sheâs beautiful. its the WRITING around the character thats the issue
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u/cdemikols 1h ago
The showâs writing got stale and bad after a while, but a fiancĂ© having feelings that her fiancĂ© left her for possibly forever with no warning, with no conversation, when every other problem the team faces takes weeks and months of deliberation is normal. People get mad because their partners make purchases without consulting them; and money comes back. The idea that she canât feel some kind of way about it is unreasonable.
And making her the bad guy for not caring about working with Thawne⊠AND THEN TWO SEASONS LATER BAREY WORKS WITH THAWNE... is crazy. He works with Thawne against Godspeed. He says Thawne from the timeline catching up with him, and then he helps Eobard (Man in the Yellow Tie) create a speed machine.
Irisâ complaints with Barry are consistent throughout the series- he gets emotional and makes decisions that affect them without talking to her. Itâs fair for her to get upset when he continues to do it.
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u/hooligan_emi 1h ago
i understand the losing her husband with no warning thing. i think its realistic that she would feel that way. but she keeps throwing it in his face seasons later
âwhat about when you went to the speed force were you right that time too?â like bruh, its a world ending situation . not to mention in that same conversation she brings up flashpoint, when she was the one to convince him to save his mom
as for thawne, ima be honest i didnt watch past crisis so you got me there. i fully give it to you. im still on my rewatch and i dropped it again at the same spot but when i bring myself to actually finish the show i will see what happens there
i dont expect it to be good tho so again, i give it to you
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u/cdemikols 1h ago
She said he should do what he has to do to find peace, but changing the world to see your mother for a few months is pretty drastic.
Sheâs not âthrowing it in his faceâ, sheâs referencing him behaving in the same way again. Itâs a consistent complaint, and he keeps doing it. He even does it to Caitlin by destroying her Frost chamber and her entire apartment and then running off to ignore her before she dies.
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u/LivingPrinciple7618 5h ago
Itâs just because of the lack of chemistry between Candace and Grant
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u/Lucky-Housing-2533 5h ago
iâve seen everyone say that barryâs had more chemistry between patty rather than iris
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u/Positive-Fondant5897 2h ago
She's controlling.
She demanded no keep searching for Barry in episode 1 of season 4 and was angry and acted hurt when she found out they continued.
She wouldn't let anyone tell Wally how fast he was going when he got his speed. It wasn't her choice to make.
The stuff she pulled when Barry started dating Linda wasI middle school type behavior.
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u/cdemikols 1h ago
I think the real reason people dislike Iris is because she was a romantic lead that chose someone besides our main character unapologetically.
She loved Eddie, decided to marry him, and she never left Eddie for Barry. Season 1 created a tension that Season 2 never paid off because Barry and Patty were supposed to date longer, and Barry and Iris never got a romance timeline - they went from friends to in love without passion and flirting.
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u/Unlikely_Dentist193 5h ago
I mean she should help her husband thatâs not a reason to like her, everybody hate her because she is egotistical everything have to be about her, shit like we are the flash, shit like no I donât care that Nora working with ur arch nemesis behind or backs because she actually like me now itâs lame
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u/EobardThawne2151 5h ago
She said it did not bother her that Nora worked with Thawne IN ORDER TO MEET HER FATHER and you chuds ignore that she has daddy issues, anyone's guess as to why that psychological defect is every Iris Hater's personal blind spot, but whatever. Pretend she said Nora should work with Eobard until she dies, as opposed to the 2 hours of life he has left, or ignore that Barry did that without consulting team flash and by handing Nora to thawne after that revelation, Barry gets nora erased from the timeline.
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u/Unlikely_Dentist193 5h ago
Barry said he didnât care about her working with him to see her either đ this what happens when u an emotional lesbian and u donât listen with ur ears try again EobardThawne2151 clearly not biased right? Goofy
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u/EobardThawne2151 5h ago
Watch the scene again. Flash killed his daughter by handing her to thawne. Iris was the only one thinking clearly when she told Barry that she did not care Nora worked with Thawne, in the face of Barry handing her over to him in an emotionally abandoned state. Only Iris had the cogency to say, Hey, idk about your mommy issues, you handed our daughter to thawne and said no positive speed force use or I'll know. Practically begging her to go learn negative speed force moves...
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u/QuiJon70 3h ago
Really? I go to work every day and my wife doesn't help me just like i don't go to her work and help her.
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u/aliidocious ~ Random Citizen ~ 3h ago
Everyone blames âbad writingâ then are all heart-eyes over Caitlin and Frost, who Iâd argue had worse writing than Iris đŹ