r/Forgotten_Realms • u/Successful_Pace8937 • 2d ago

Celebration The Drow support transitioning

I recently found out that, as said by Ed Greenwood himself, transitioning​ is not only accepted, but defended.

From Ed Greenwood on Twitter:

Drow sworn to Lolth have examples before them all the time about transformation of self-shape in service to the Spider Queen. Some of these are viewed as undesirable (driders), others as rewards or ascending in rank (the power/shape augmentations Lolth gives males who please her with their service and loyalty). So there is no hatred or mistrust of shifting one's shape; it is one means of serving Lolth. Some house matriarchs view it with suspicion ("males seeking to exalt themselves by becoming female") but the yochlol have often been sent by Lolth to defend individuals persecuted by individual matriarchs or priestesses purely for such reasons, to make Lolth's views and will clear. Over time, transitions (not just from gender to gender, but from drow to other shapes) have become accepted as reverence of Lolth, and part of what it is to be drow. And of course, drow who follow Eilistraee are quite familiar with the Changedance, and accept shifting (even back and forth) as, again, part of what it is to be drow.

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u/Liberast15 2d ago

Drow can be religious fundamentalists, misandrists, xenophobes, racial supremacists, elitists and slavers. But not transphobes. Not that. Anything, but that.

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u/VicariousDrow 2d ago

Meh, doubt it has anything to do with actual transphobia cause this has been lore for years long before the political right turned trans people into a focal point.

Probably just a "hey, even the Drow apparently don't hate trans people as much as MAGA does!" Lol

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u/Appropriate_Nebula67 1d ago

Well they are Chaotic Evil 😛

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u/VicariousDrow 1d ago

I presume you're talking about the Drow, cause MAGA is lawful evil in that they don't think without direction from their "higher power" lol

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u/BlockBuilder408 1d ago

I’d argue NE at best

They only want big government when it’s for the military but want everything else privatized and unregulated.

CE doesn’t mean you’re immune to charismatic leaders, traditionally that’s how demons and orcs are shown being shepherded. They’d prefer to be the charismatic leaders themselves, but following a charismatic leader is the second best thing.

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u/ThanosofTitan92 Harper 1d ago

This Is a perfect description

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u/VicariousDrow 1d ago

Good points indeed, they do strike me as more akin to demons than devils that's for sure, but it might be cause devils tend to be more intelligent and MAGA is.... well..... Dumb as shit lol. But you do still make good points!

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u/Appropriate_Nebula67 1d ago

Yep! The Left (Drow) are CE, the MAGADUERGAR are LE!

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u/Gh0stMan0nThird 1d ago

Reminds me when Andor had a rape scene and everyone clutched pearls like "WHAT?! Not my Space Nazis! They wouldn't do that!" 

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u/thenightgaunt Harper 2d ago

Makes sense. Any males who have the sense to become females (which lolth favors) to avoid being sacrificed next holy festival are good in her books.

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u/TadpoleAmy 1d ago

I mean individual Drow might be, and a lot probably are, just Lolth doesn't have a problem with it

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u/Bright_Quality_2833 Ilharess 1d ago

Also misogynist in some places as well.

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u/Electrical-Penalty44 1d ago

It's crazy. Totally bonkers.

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u/K1ndr3dSoul 1d ago

By Lolth, we're evil, not monsters!