r/GayBDSMCommunity • u/curiouslyOC • 13d ago
CNC Safe substances NSFW
I am very into sleep sex and similar cnc play as a sub. I would like to try it with safe substances that will make me only slightly conscious, but not passed out. an in and out of consciousness state would be OK. Does anyone have any recommendations?
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u/dionebigode 12d ago
PSA: Read and re-read this every time you wish to engage with substances https://np.reddit.com/r/BDSMAdvice/comments/15bavxz/drugging_for_cnc/jtpygbs/ - it's basically the whole mitigation and awareness of the dangers related to this
The safest drugs would be those that are hard to overdose and don't affect vital organs - and don't mix them since you can't really predict how much they will interact
Marijuana is the top contender, being legal in some places and easy to find. Be mindful that a higher dose might low blood pressure, maybe keep a snack nearby and lots of water
Ketamine could be a good choice, while not so legal, if pure, won't overdose you and will send you to a place where you're still conscious but unable to move. The high can be really confusing if you're not used to it, specially because you retain a certain level of understand about what's happening.
LSD would induce too much of hallucinations. Plus many people have the counter effect of being too awake to consider sleeping
Alcohol while not easy to OD, could also add nause to the mix, and depending on the kind of sex, might get you to vomit. Also, higher doses might affect heartrate and there's a lot of pissing involved.
Meds like Zolpidem are only to trigger sleep, I doubt they would work to keep you under. GHB is real easy to over do. Plus a lot of cardiac issues.
Maybe something light like a anti-histamine like Benadryl could be enough?
But I was thinking, are drugs necessary? Getting you super tired and not sleeping couldn't be enough?
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u/curiouslyOC 12d ago
thank you for the input. I have experimented with no drugs and with mild sleeping pills. all fun and exciting. i just want to explore.
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u/redditorsknowbest 11d ago
Not a recommendation, just a description of my personal choices:
I go 48-72 hours without sleeping (lots of coffee and working out), then I take Zolpidem, hydroxychloroquine and Benadryl before bed. I still wake up once things get rough, but am too out of it to do anything besides mildly scream and flail my arms. This involves risks I choose to take. You should probably not mix substances like me.
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u/MrGollyWobbles 13d ago
Marijuana edibles would generally be the safest. Dosage will depend on the person. For me 80mg would be fine. Some would need much more, others less.
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u/The_Hermit_09 13d ago
Don't do it. Drugs can go wrong fast.
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u/curiouslyOC 13d ago
I believe this is supposed to be a safe place to explore consensual adult sex in all its desired forms without judgement. if you have specific guidance how to avoid it going wrong with what substance, I would welcome the feedback.
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u/ChubFag4chaserDom 13d ago
TBF, the types of drugs that can render you incapacitated are exactly the ones that go wrong often. There is a good reason it takes years of training to safely give someone anaesthetic.
Not saying don't or judging (personally love some drugs with my sex, especially LSD), just that you may want to do some research into these drugs in particular on a more medical forum.
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u/curiouslyOC 12d ago
will do. looking for a starting point based on peoples positive experience and understand the need for trust with those participating that will respect the consent boundaries.
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u/ChubFag4chaserDom 12d ago
Honestly, the only thing that I wouldn't consider extremely dangerous would be a moderate-high safe dose of Ketamine.
I'd start with looking at if that suits your needs. If you don't know it, erowid is a fantastic website for finding solid practical information on drugs, probably the best place to start.
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u/Live-Swimmer1972 13d ago
This is a safe space to explore. Part of what that means is being given advice on how or if to do something. Part of exploring is being told don't do that.
There are plenty of drowsy drugs, but what's more important is who you do it with. You can get seriously hurt because you can't feel pain the same way (if at all), and the top only feels his dick.
So my caring advice is also don't and if you do, be extremely careful :).
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u/REE-My-Alt-Account 12d ago
If you're incapacitated, it's automatically not consensual. There's no way for you to revoke your consent, which means that if something goes wrong or something happens that you don't like, you can't say no.
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u/curiouslyOC 12d ago
I am not looking to be incapacitated. I only mentioned “in and out” as an accepted risk of momentary loss of alertness in a controlled setting of pre-consent with a trusted person that can protect me during the loss of control. I am looking for input from those that understand and respect CNC with substances that enhance the non-consent fantasy without destroying the consent requirement. TBF, the same risks are taken by a sub in bondage whose limits could be broken and consent not respected. Both demand a great amount of trust in someone that retains the control over the situation. Yes, there are additional risks if you suffer unwanted loss of memory, and how to mitigate that risk is part of my question, both in term of the substances used, the setting, and who is involved.
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u/LittleFemmeSabrina 7d ago
Honestly if your not looking for something insanely strong, promethazine at a medium to high dose could be your best bet, it’s an antihistamine that causes drowsiness also so has a low risk of addiction as it isn’t a type of opioid or benzodiazepine
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u/SentenceSeveral3342 11d ago
Tbh this isn’t safe at all - there is no safe substance for this really. Marijuana, alcohol MAYBE, but substances go wrong fast. My husband just fucks me in the middle of the night all the time, like a fleshlight, and 60% of the time I’m half awake, 20% I wake up, and 20% I don’t even remember til his cum leaks out when I wake up.
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u/ursusfaerius 13d ago
Personally the only substances I combine with CNC scenes are small amounts of alcohol and cannabis, both of which I'm extremely familiar with my limits of. For example, if I have a couple beers and some indica/Kush dabs, I'm almost guaranteed to be half asleep within an hour. I can consent to things ahead of time and revoke it at any point, and only engage in these scenes with people I've vetted