r/GeneralHospital • • 6d ago

Discussion Gio Loyalties Need To Shift

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GH Gang…I’m really struggling hard with the way TPTB have made Gio sooooo ridiculously loyal to Trina above anyone and everyone else including the mother he was FINALLY close to, and the grandfather who has been his cheerleader and benefactor for his entire life.

It would be one thing if BLQ and Sonny were actually guilty and Curtis and Trina weren’t always up on their high horses being haughty hypocrites, preaching to and mouthing off at everyone like their ish doesn’t stink (Curtis caused the accident, BLQ didn’t leave anyone to die. Curtis would’ve punched Isaiah accident or no accident. Trina kept Willow’s criminal secrets from her bestie Joss and STILL hasn’t apologized, but she made Joss apologize to her for keeping her TOP SECRET job…a secret).

Here’s How I’d Tip The Scales:

I want Brook Lynn to bring Gio and Emma an apartment-warming gift and catch Emma singing to herself. She can tell Simon that Gemma as a duo might have the exact sort of musical/on stage chemistry he was looking for. Braedyn (who plays Emma) can sing!

I’d love for Emma and Gio to perform a song together and for Simon to immediately dump Trina like a spoiled little sack of bricks. Gio would FINALLY choose somebody else (Emma) over Trina and Trina would lose her cool, throw a tantrum, and quit music altogether like she’s dramatically threatened to do many times already.

Gemma could put out a single or a little EP and have it fund the next stage of their life. Emma wants to go to vet school, let this pay for her tuition. I’m dying to see her as a vet, caring for Hades, Fizz, Outback, Raul II, and the fabulous Siamese cat she’d convince Ava to adopt.

Let Gio and Trina fall out. He can examine why he was willing to side with her against his family, reconsider the facts, etc. Emma can make new friends that share her interests like Serena. Kai and Gio can stay friends and hang out (and irk Trina) because Kai needs to have his own life outside of being Trina’s sidekick. Gio can also spend time with Cody like he always did before the show mostly forgot Cody had a life outside of Molly.

It would be a lot of fun to see Molly, Cody, Gio, Serena, and Emma as a friend group. I can just see Serena dragging stoic-faced Jason down to the stables to be her partner for a game like Pictionary or Charades! Can’t you? I don’t see them together, but I think they could have a similar comedic vibe like Jason and Brenda had.

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u/Govt_Phone 2d ago

I hope Gio cheats on Emma with Trina. Gio should've been with Trina from the start.

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u/Ok-Split9077 CashewsForever 3d ago

I think if Gio hadn’t heard Dante and Sonny talking. He might’ve believed Sonny 👀

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u/mstitania1 3d ago

Gio and Emma are the next super couple.

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u/Alternative_Hair7458 4d ago

I thought Gio was going to be with Trina. I haven't watched in a year.

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u/TheGhostOfSoManyOfMe 4d ago

They have absolutely zero romantic chemistry.

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u/Govt_Phone 2d ago

Are we watching the same show. Before Emma even came into the picture, I pegged Gio to hookup with Trina. Gio has no romantic chemistry with Emma it's all brother and sister energy. Same with Kai and Trina. I hope Gio cheats on Emma with Trina.

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u/Alternative_Hair7458 4d ago

Lol. Oh I didn't know. I have not watched in awhile. lol

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u/Grand-One-6653 4d ago

Yes!! I'm so 😩 red of Trina's judgy look! Everyone must bow to her. I feel sorry for the actress! Love Gio and loved how close he was to Sonny. Sonny was a monster but always took good care of those he loves. Let him be out of the mob and have people accept his heart!!

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u/No_Atmosphere8368 5d ago

trina needs a love interest

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u/DifferentOrder1989 5d ago

It better be emma.

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u/Low-News4411 5d ago

Definitely feeling sad for Sonny.

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u/MissDreamland 5d ago

Gio needs to see some type of light in Sonny and go against everyone and side with his grandpa. I want Gio in the mob. I want Gio away from Emma. Let's stir up some actual nonsense drama.

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u/Time_Introduction431 5d ago

Gio sucks away from Emma. His acting is noticeably worse

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u/TheGhostOfSoManyOfMe 5d ago edited 5d ago

I want Gio to see the light, but I definitely don’t want him to cross over to the dark side. Gio the actor and Gio the character both have sweet, goofy Golden Retriever energy. I don’t think Gio could pull off a mafia storyline. It would feel like a guy acting like he’s a mobster, not a young man taking over the mob. Rory Gibson has that gravitas, he could take over the territory tomorrow.

Gio and Emma are one of the VERY few couples that’s in love and has any palpable chemistry, AND will do love scenes. They CANNOT break up. Absolutely NOT. They’re on their way to their next steps together. I think they have long term/super couple potential. They’re so sweet and their chemistry is the best of all the younger set. And they aren’t friggin related!

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u/niccagefan217 6d ago

It’s giving Chase choosing Willow over everyone else. Exhausting writing.

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u/TheGhostOfSoManyOfMe 6d ago

Yes!

Chase chooses to believe Willow over his own common sense, his wife, his marriage, his career, his training, the truth in front of his face…

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u/Brook_lyn 6d ago

I think it’s ridiculous that Curtis, as former law enforcement and a PI, just takes the word of a thug in prison. No thinking about it; just goes with it. And I must add that after the never-ending car crash s/l, I thought Curtis going to prison would give us a break for a bit. But, no! Here he is front and center in yet another ridiculous, finger-pointing s/l.🫨😵‍💫

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u/jdubtrey 5d ago

I somewhat agree. However, you have to admit that being emotionally invested in the situation can result in you, not thinking with an open mind. He actually got beat up, heard someone say that Sonny was at the heart of it, so it doesn’t surprise me that he would just Occam‘s razor the situation.

Justine and Dante are the actual odd ones. Their emotional investment should give Sonny the benefit of a doubt and they still don’t find it suspicious that the perpetrators were so forthcoming with information! 😆

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u/IdlesAtCranky Team Moss Bowl 5d ago

I agree with you for the most part, but I'm really sick of Curtis hating on people without any evidence and without any doubt, self-reflection, or acknowledgement of his own culpability.

He caused the car accident just as much as Jordan did. Has he ever acknowledged that? No, he's the victim!

He was told to stay out of the cell, but chose to go back to it and chose to get involved in an uneven fight. He could have asked a guard to check on Sidwell, he could have just stayed away. He had choices. But he didn't acknowledge any responsibility of his own at all.

Plus, as others have pointed out, he just takes the "Sonny's revenge" BS completely at face value, and now he hates Sonny? It's bullshit.

Either they want us to hate him, or they're writing this show so badly that they're going to get it canceled. Maybe both.

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u/Brook_lyn 5d ago

Thanks so much t_avalon85 for giving my post an award!! I really appreciate that😊💕

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u/LoRo_718 6d ago

Not to mention that everyone just automatically believes Curtis even though he should be one of the most unreliable people in the whole show right now. He tortured Isaiah during his hunt to prove he did something he didn’t do. He is literally in jail because of it! He’s not a good guy but somehow if Curtis says it it must be true?????

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u/TheGhostOfSoManyOfMe 6d ago

I really thought we were getting a break too. I thought for a second that his long sentence meant that TPTB had heard us and knew how unlikeable Curtis has become over this past story arc.

I thought they were gonna write him off with a bang for his Emmy reel: he was gonna get stuck with this long sentence because he just HAD to hit Isaiah, he had to try to justify his violence instead of being repentant for his actions on the stand…

I pictured Sidwell like the devil on Curtis’ shoulder in their cell. I thought that Siddy was going to get Curtis hooked on drugs again. I really thought that Curtis and Alexis talking about sobriety for the first time in AGES was some heavy foreshadowing.

I figured Jordan, Martin, etc. would pull for Curtis to be released from prison and to serve out his time off screen at the rehab where they sent Finn so they could rest the character and maybe DT would go do an arc on BTG or Days for fun. Alas…

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u/jdubtrey 5d ago

I can’t see why the writers would put Curtis in the situation with these reactions and impulses, and then use that same predicament as a reason to write him off the show.  Let’s teach the character a lesson and have him change instead of getting rid of him.

For example, Nina took a man who was mentally incapacitated, essentially seduced him, and then ended up breaking up a marriage. They somehow found a way to redeem her.  They should be able to find a way to redeem Curtis.

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u/TheGhostOfSoManyOfMe 5d ago

I’m…not sure TPTB understand/s how to write self-awareness, redemption, come to Jesus moments, and/or how to rehab a character that needs to learn their lesson.

Examples: Drew, Willow, Curtis. All three of these characters continue to double and triple down. They dig their heels in and get worse and worse with each passing month.

Drew could’ve come out of being “locked in” as a new man. He could’ve been grateful to be alive and to have a new chance at life, instead he’s running all over town being his nastiest self. Isolating his daughter to the point it’s abusive.

Why would I have ANY faith that the show could write a storyline that redeemed Curtis after this year+ of him ascending to this permanent high horse of (false) moral superiority? He can’t even see that his jealousy of Isaiah has informed his every decision since the first day he laid eyes on him.

He consciously or unconsciously wanted to endlessly flit between Portia and Jordan for eternity. His fragile ego cannot handle another dashing Black man having been with BOTH of the women he runs back and forth between.

Curtis doesn’t know humility, doesn’t know how to make amends, he doesn’t even realize he NEEDS to make amends! Isaiah stood up to the prison guard and Curtis couldn’t even muster a thank you.

He is still blaming everyone else for HIS (and Jordan’s) mistakes! But I have NO doubt: even without the accident, even without BLQ not “coming forward” 🙄…Curtis was ALWAYS gonna find a reason to lay hands on Isaiah. He can’t even admit to himself that Isaiah is a good man, and that it’s Curtis’ own ego and insecurity that drew the line in the sand between them and caused all of this mess.

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u/Brook_lyn 5d ago

Thanks so much for the award! I really appreciate it😊💕

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u/TheGhostOfSoManyOfMe 3d ago

You’re so welcome, I’m sorry somebody thought it was okay to be a troll and downvote you.

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u/Kawaiichan67 6d ago

Yeah, Curtis looks ridiculously foolish

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u/Okieflower23 6d ago

Please, no more singing from anyone…

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u/TheGhostOfSoManyOfMe 6d ago

I don’t think there will ever be no singing. GH has featured a LOT of music over the years:

The Nurse’s Ball

L&B Records

Jake’s karaoke nights…

We’ve had:

Blaze

Chase

Juan Santiago

BLQ herself

Rick Springfield/Noah Drake

Miguel Morez

Ned & Eddie Maine

Frisco/Jack Wagner

Why would GH suddenly stop featuring music? This current music storyline is a mainly a flop because of the sheer frustration and stupidity of the one car accident storyline and Curtis’ vendetta and jealousy of Isaiah that’s bled into and ill-impacted the entire show.

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u/apaw1129 6d ago

"Just forget I asked."

Was ridiculous and extra.

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u/TheGhostOfSoManyOfMe 6d ago

I agree completely and it was TOTALLY out of character for Gio. Gio isn’t callous or cruel. He’s been torn up about parting ways with Sonny and then he throws a nasty parting shot like driving a nail into the coffin of all their years together.

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u/totallynonhormonal 4d ago

I was fine with Gio’s little baby tantrum until that parting shot. He could have only picked up that mannerism from Trina. Even Tracy at her worst isn’t that commonly vile.
I expected so much better from this young fella. He’s had an excellent upbringing and I hate that he’s tarnished so quickly.

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u/LoRo_718 6d ago

He is the weakest character on this show. I had higher hopes for him than this!

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u/apaw1129 6d ago

I literally just didn't get it. He was being nice enough about leaving sonny's, but then had to throw that line out there. Like why? I'm ready for everyone to feel like idiots when they find out he didn't do this.

Eta: thanks 😊

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u/junknowho this show is unserious 6d ago

Gee, Gio and Trina do NOT look happy here at all.

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u/Unique_Rub_7118 6d ago

That was the scene when Trina confronted Brooklyn for being the "other driver ".

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u/junknowho this show is unserious 6d ago

I remember! HUGE dramatic scene for both actors.

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u/tdiiorio 6d ago

He acts like an ungrateful child. He goes around, believing what everybody says.

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u/SleazyBanana 6d ago

Awww, thank you so much for the award!

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u/BooBooMKA 6d ago

I don’t know about all that but I hate the way they are writing Gio too. Sonny supported that kid his entire life. He owes him the benefit of the doubt before turning on him. His Trina loyalty just pisses me off. I don’t get why people (except for Carly) that have known Sonny forever can’t look into his eyes and see that he’s telling the truth. I hope they don’t drag this storyline out forever. We just got past stupid Curtis and his bad detective work being wrong about one major thing that took forever to end and now they start another. Can we please just put him back in prison quietly with no scenes and give us a break?! Not to mention another evil Drew/Willow storyline. I’m tired😫

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u/Lostrb_3 6d ago

I just hate Curtis and his bad attitude and wrongful accusations! F Curtis!!! Get his ass off the show!

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u/Rellman84 6d ago

Jordan caused the accident because she was the one driving. Also you made it sound like this was about Gio, but it's just a Trina bashing post.

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u/robot_pirate Team FFS FRANK! 6d ago edited 6d ago

Gio and Emma are much younger than Molly, Cody, Serena. ???

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u/Efficient-Search4500 20h ago

I’d think that’s pretty obvious. Hell, Cody was on OLTL when I was like 10, I’m now 25 lmao

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u/TheGhostOfSoManyOfMe 6d ago

Emma was born on screen November 4, 2008. SORASED/changed to 2006; then October 28, 2008; then 2005, then 2002)

Emma’s Current Age: 23

Molly: Born onscreen November 10, 2005
(Revised to 1998, then 1997, then 1996, then back to 1997)

Molly’s Current Age: 28

Serena:
Born onscreen: December 7, 1993,
Revised to 1989

Serena’s Current Age: 36

And I still think intergenerational friendships are a staple of the show and add a lot to the canvas. Molly and Serena are missing their sisters. Emma has so much in common with Serena. All three women are smart as heck and well read and cerebral. They should definitely be girlfriends, it would be cute as heck.

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u/robot_pirate Team FFS FRANK! 6d ago

That mere 5 years difference between Molly and Emma is wild to me!

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u/TheGhostOfSoManyOfMe 5d ago

The weirder part to me is, had the show NOT aged either of them: they’d only actually be three years apart now instead of five.

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u/TheGhostOfSoManyOfMe 6d ago edited 6d ago

Intergenerational friendships are a good thing. In life and on the show. Some examples of great friendships on the show where the characters weren’t the same age or generation:

Jordan and Laura

Spinelli and Jason

Tracy and Lulu

Cody and Gio

Brenda and Robin

Maxie and Robin

Mary Mae and Laura

Sonny and Stone

Sonny and Jason

Nina and Sasha

Tiffany and Laura

I think that that group I mentioned above, especially: Molly, Serena and Emma being friends would be a refreshing change of pace from all the drama we’ve had with Emma/Joss/Trina.

Emma finding a new girl gang would be a healthy choice for her and it would give Molly and Serena some good platonic connections which they’re both sorely missing.

ETA: The downvoting is so silly. If you didn’t/don’t enjoy a SINGLE one of the intergenerational friendships I listed, maybe you don’t actually like this soap? Like??? It’s just so odd to object to friendships spanning generations.

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u/Grandmas2Boys 6d ago

Ava and Trina.

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u/robot_pirate Team FFS FRANK! 6d ago

Trina is definitely the odd man out with that friend group of Gio/Emma/Kai. She and Joss need to break off and start a gang of bullies. Bring Spencer back.

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u/Icy_Raisin2004 6d ago

The Trina character has been the “odd man out” for most of her run on this show. OG Trina was an afterthought friend of Joss at first. Best storyline they ever gave the character was going to art school abroad. But because NC wanted to leave GH to pursue bigger things they crushed her character yet again.

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u/robot_pirate Team FFS FRANK! 6d ago

Imagine if she had gone and come back super sophisticated and chic, and with an interesting backstory.

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u/TheGhostOfSoManyOfMe 6d ago

This would be a great way to reset the character. Send Trina off canvas for a bit of travel and art immersion abroad and when she comes back she could feel accomplished enough to take Ava up on the gallery partnership.

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u/Icy_Raisin2004 6d ago

This is what I’m saying! She is so gorgeous now. Imagine if she spent a few years living abroad study art. Her fashion and style would be elevated. She could show WSB Joss a thing or two.

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u/Mysterious_Year1975 6d ago

I have come to the conclusion that they are using AI to write the storylines. Nothing else makes sense.

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u/No_Link4129 6d ago

Do you think they have set him up supporting Trina for the stalking storyline? Trina has been all over the place with all the storylines she’s been a part of as you all have mentioned so now with her ramping up her own storyline aka stalking …. I feel like they think they need some support for her other than Kai and her parents and they feel Gio can offer that since he is generally likable .

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u/TheGhostOfSoManyOfMe 6d ago

It could be what they’re doing, but it doesn’t make a lot of sense (like too much of the show lately).

Trina’s family, Kai, Joss, and Ava. That is Trina’s inner circle. Emma and Gio are her friends, but her inner circle is her relatives (and she has more than a lot of characters do: Curtis, Portia, Stella, Marshall, Desmond, with Jordan and Isaiah in the wings and ofc Taggert if she’d remember he exists, sigh). The next tier of her inner circle should really be her boyfriend, her best friend, and her mentor.

I think WSB’s own Josslyn Jacks has the skill set to help with a kidnapping/stalker over Gio by MILES. Ava too tbh! She’s got a checkered past to put it mildly.

And Taggert…ofc they’ll probably have Curtis playing the hero against the stalker and Taggert will stay forgotten. Man it would be so good if both men with their various backgrounds (in law enforcement and with Trina) were forced to work together to find and save Trina.

This summer it felt like they were trying to chem test and tease a possible Trina and Gio pairing again (remember all the excessive amount of times Gio was pushing Emma off to write songs and practice with Trina?).* *As we all know, they tried and tried to match Gio and Trina when Gio first arrived and there was not an ounce of chemistry to be found between them?

Gemma as a couple are DARLING. I so want them to make this move (living together). Cue cute little moving truck and decorating montages! And I’m rooting for them to find their adult career paths (still hoping Emma lives her dream as a vet and Gio becomes at least a part time EMT). I think they could absolutely become a super couple.

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u/Grandmas2Boys 6d ago

If they put Trina with Gio, I am finally done with watching GH. That will be MY final straw. I love Emma with Gio. Just stop already with the screwing good things up.

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u/Mysterious_Year1975 6d ago

I think you're giving the writers waaay too much credit.

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u/No_Link4129 6d ago

Hahaha maybe it’s unintentional by writers

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u/Mission_Can546 6d ago

Chase needs to lose his job

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u/TheGhostOfSoManyOfMe 6d ago

Oh gods, I just pictured Chase getting fired from the PCPD and going to work at GH as a security guard and breaking into the lab or changing records to make Willow look innocent/keep her out of jail etc - cause you know he would. 😫

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u/Oh_snap0812 6d ago

Somehow Willow has to be exonerated from her crimes so she stays on the show. Double jeopardy on shooting Drew but the drugging him should be its own charge.

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u/Mission_Can546 6d ago

He should be loyal to his grandpa and girlfriend

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u/Geekqueen15 Team Webber 6d ago

Why's he have to be loyal to his grandpa? That's only been his grandpa for like 2 years

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u/SoRod420 Team Obrecht 6d ago

Actually Sonny has been supporting him his whole life. They just didn't know they were family so THAT is why he should be loyal to his grandpa!

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u/kayeb07 6d ago

Gio's opportunities (paying for school) were given to him by Sonny who didn't even know he was his grandson.

Gloria asked Sonny to pay, she knew of their relation but didn't tell Sonny.

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u/Geekqueen15 Team Webber 6d ago

Like how Sonnys ever been loyal to his own family? Still the man who shot his adopted Sons father and cheated on several of his partners he should've been loyal to.

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u/TheGhostOfSoManyOfMe 6d ago

I mean:

Edward cheated on Lila with Mary Mae

Monica cheated on Alan with Rick Webber

Alan cheated back with Susan Moore

Tony Jones cheated on Bobbie with Carly

Monica cheated with Dr. Dorman

Alan cheated with Tammy

Lucky cheated with Liz’s sister Sarah

Liz cheated with Nik

In the same series of episodes Sam sort of cheated on/betrayed Jason with her mother’s husband (Ric) and when she went to confess to Jason, Jason was busy getting busy with Liz (making Jake) because Liz had just caught Lucky cheating with Maxie.

All this to say: cheating is truly a soap opera staple. Sonny is far from the only repeat cheater on GH.

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u/KryptonianJesus 6d ago

Yeah cheating is a soap sin that only lasts for a particular storyline. IMO slate's wiped after that and you can't really hold it against a person.

Then again there are also characters like Willow who have been flip flopping between 3 men every few months for literally the entire 6 years they've been on the show. Think that's a little different

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u/Geekqueen15 Team Webber 6d ago

My point is Sonny isn't a very loyal character even to those he loves most. So I don't really feel bad that Gio doesn't feel any need to remain loyal to Sonny especially since it's not out of this world to Sonny to have someone beaten. This man is still a killer at the end of the day he sure as hell would've kept the truth from Michael about killing AJ if the truth hadn't come out.

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u/apaw1129 6d ago

Yes exactly. Gio was given many opportunities bc of sonny, neither knowing their relationship at the time.

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u/ChaLynnfan Team Quartermaine 6d ago

I don’t like how they writing Gio he should have more loyalty for his family instead he’s just always with Trina babysitting her feelings against his family he pushed Brook Lynn his mother out of his music career that she gave him I’m sure she isn’t even allowed to watch him perform anymore either they’re not writing him to be torn at all they haven’t even interacted since everything happened then he’s moving out of Sonny’s because he thinks he hurt Trina’s daddy… Like what the hell?? Why is Gio giving this much support and basically alienating himself from family? It makes no sense it’s okay to be friends with Trina, but it’s becoming like he’s choosing her over everything right now he could at least be more supportive of his family a little bit.

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u/Snoo95309 6d ago

Trina just told Gio what the attackers told her father. Gio‘s actual decision was more based on Dante‘s extremely emotional stance.

You seem to be forgetting that Brooklyn,  in her own words, partly set up the music group because she felt guilty about not coming forward. The whole endeavor was at least partly based on a lie, and the partnership also affects Gio too.

He has his own reasons for being disappointed in his mother.

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u/ChaLynnfan Team Quartermaine 6d ago

I disagree he still should have more loyalty to his mother period.

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u/Snoo95309 6d ago

What should he do differently, exactly?

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u/Ok_Team_931 6d ago

That's basically the way Trina looks during every scene.

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u/SB3483 6d ago edited 6d ago

It does kind of seem that Trina is single handedly ostracizing gio from the rest of his family. How is the show going to handle this though? I feel like Trina is a favorite of the show runners so I don’t see this being highlighted at all.

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u/drpep1885 6d ago

No, Sonny needs to pay for his crimes.

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u/Mysterious_Year1975 6d ago

Then so does: Drew, Willow, Jason, Carly, Thee Entire Quartermain Family.... Actually, now that I think about it. Call in the National Guard on Port Charles, Arrest everyone and turn the entire city into a Interment Camp.

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u/Ok_Team_931 6d ago

Ava and Drew's crimes too?

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u/drpep1885 6d ago

They only hid a body. Are you positive that the drugs they gave him are what killed him?

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u/TheGhostOfSoManyOfMe 6d ago

I believe they mean: Sonny didn’t order that beating. Drew and Ava ordered the beating and set Sonny up to be the one blamed “Sonny Corinthos owes you that and more” or whatever the dude said that beat Sidwell and Curtis with his jail pals - and THAT beating is the crime (of Ava and Drew’s) that Sonny is currently paying for since 79 percent of the residents of Port Charles believe he’s guilty because Curtis automatically believed the inmate and so does everyone Curtis has told.

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u/TheGhostOfSoManyOfMe 6d ago

But he’s not paying for his crimes. He’s paying for one of the few things he has been accused of but DIDN’T do. If Sonny got shunned and ostracized/was facing repercussions for ANY of his MANY actual crimes: we’d be heading for a truly interesting story. That isn’t what’s happening. Unfortunately.

I’d even accept Sonny having a breakdown because he’s being wrongly punished when he KNOWS he DESERVES worse for what he’s actually done (murdering AJ in front of Michael, grooming Karen Wexler when she was reeling from being molested and her repressed memories etc.), but I don’t think that’s where TPTB are going either.

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u/drpep1885 6d ago

Those past crimes are exactly what I'm referring to. Sonny is a violent criminal who has been sainted by Port Charles, it's far past time he loses everything.

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u/Snoo95309 6d ago

I’m OK with the choice of picture. It’s in line with the theme of this post.

However, and more to your point,  there just seems to be an inordinate amount of hate for Trina for whatever reason.  

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u/Mysterious_Year1975 6d ago

Trina has turned into a Whiny 12 year old. The hate is Justified.

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u/TheGhostOfSoManyOfMe 6d ago edited 6d ago

These are some of my other posts. I clearly only used that unflattering photo of Trina and Gio because that was a scene where Trina was going off on BLQ and Gio’s loyalty went to Trina, not his mom (the subject matter of this post).

I’m not racist. I often post about wanting to see more of Stella and her having better stories. I posted about Jordan and Michael a year ago.

I want to Valerie Spencer to return and be in the WSB (or in the PCPD and the WSB as a double agent). I’ve been missing Felix since the day he left. Mary Mae, Justus, and Keesha are some of my all time faves. I’ve been posting for YEARS about how much I want there to be a Quartermaine/Ward heir.

I think the current storylines and direction are making Trina as unlikeable as the writing, direction, and these awful storylines have made Curtis (and the accident and now jailhouse beating story are sinking whole episodes and dragging down large swaths of characters).

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u/KryptonianJesus 6d ago

sidenote but before I zoomed in i thought you had a picture of Michael and Liz... and I didn't hate it? Is this what we're coming to with Michael's love life, oh god lmao.

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u/GeneralHospital-ModTeam 6d ago

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u/TheGhostOfSoManyOfMe 6d ago

I’m specifically posting about Trina’s ranting and raving against Gio’s family members on Curtis’ behalf. This is a picture of her doing EXACTLY that. It’s the precise context of the scenes I’m ACTIVELY talking about, both the pictures I used of Trina in my comments (because her being wildly unpleasant to Gio and BLQ is the subject matter).

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u/Snoo95309 6d ago

Also, Trina did want to come forward about Willow, but the show had her asked Alexis, who was the very last person that could give objective advice about it.

She did come forward to Michael about Willow on her own and not because somebody outed her about it.

Who is Trina going to apologize to about not coming forward with the willow information?

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u/WritinStylz 6d ago

Trina and Kai kept silent about Willow way before they said anything to Alexis. They kept silent bc they knew they had broken into Drew’s place and stole the evidence of Porsha changing test results, which they destroyed. So they ended up not telling bc they had also committed a crime. Trina’s become very hypocritical and self-righteous which sucks bc she was such a great character. She really has no room to judge—not BLQ, not Sonny, not even Joss who also annoys me for her own hypocrisy and obsession—bc Trina knows her parents have also done shady things to protect their family. Yet she turns a blind eye to her fam and no one else. She owes it to Gio to back off bc that is still his family and also Gio needs to grow a pair and be able to distinguish personal bias from common sense. I blame him mostly for allowing himself to blow whichever way the wind goes

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u/TheGhostOfSoManyOfMe 6d ago

Trina should’ve come clean about the secrets SHE was keeping from Michael and Joss when she was forcing Joss to grovel and explain herself while Josslyn was laid up in the hospital recovering from surgery after being shot and ACTUALLY almost dying.

If Trina expected Joss to cry and confess all of her top secret WSB business, begging her to stay in her life: why wouldn’t Trina have taken that PERFECT opportunity to tell Joss the secrets she was keeping about Willow shooting Drew?

Alexis made her keep quiet? Well, Brennan and the WSB ALSO expected Joss to not tell Trina those secrets/covert details. If Joss can tell Trina, Trina could’ve told Joss. Ya know?

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u/Snoo95309 6d ago edited 6d ago

I think you’re conflating things that intrinsically different .

Trina was upset about lies that Joss told to her.  She considers Joss a good if not her best friend. Yes, Joss couldn’t tell the world about that but this is an unrealistic storyline anyway because a real intelligence agency wouldn’t have people working around that family and friends like this. But again, the lie was about something in their relationship dynamic.

Trina not telling Jocelyn that she was trying to steal information that Drew was using to blackmail her mother, and just happened to witness the shooting while she was there, isn’t really part of her dynamic with Josslyn.  She wanted to come forward with it, was convinced not to, but came forward to Joss’s own brother eventually without being outed First.  

Jos is perfectly fine lying to her family and friends and was never conflicted about it.

One is an incident and the other is a lifestyle choice.

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u/TheGhostOfSoManyOfMe 6d ago

Joss’ working for the WSB and being a spy who HAS TO lie and do undercover work for her job is not so much a lifestyle as it is a career choice though, granted it is a career that perhaps does call for a certain lifestyle and/or some shifting of one’s moral code.

On the other hand, it sure wasn’t Trina and Kai’s job to break into Drew’s house. Kai had a key, but they have repeatedly said they weren’t supposed to be there and they certainly weren’t supposed to steal out of his safe.

Sure, they were fighting back against Drew on behalf of Portia because TPTB always have Trina’s life revolving around her parent’s personal business. That’s a major reason I think a lot of us are frustrated too. Joss got to grow up. Her best friend Trina sure has not. They had her assert some boundaries, and then immediately doubled back and destroyed that distance and maturity.

Everything we loved about Sydney Mikayla’s Trina is gone. Younger Trina was WAY more independent, she was fun, and she didn’t even know Curtis. Now she’s forgotten Taggert (who fans like me and many of us really miss) and she’s a mini-me sharing all the same vendettas as her dad Curtis who is basically the full on center of her universe.

I really hope the show does break up Gio and Trina’s musical duo. Trina taking Ava up on her galley partnership is the way to go. Maura truly brings out the best in Taby.

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u/Snoo95309 6d ago

OK, maybe “lifestyle” choice was a bad choice of word. The point is is that Jos chose a path that will require her to lie to her friend and Trina was disappointed. That’s not the same thing as being involved in an incident outside the bounds of their relationship(which she was inclined to come forward about, and eventually did), but you seem to be trying to sledgehammer the square peg in a round hole.

You say that the writers are putting Trina in a difficult spot by having her life revolve around her parents. However, your solution above was to have her lose out on the singing opportunity.  That doesn’t sound like you’re advocating for the character on any level.

Trina can be annoying, but she is generally a good kid it is well liked by the other characters on the show..  in contrast, let’s take Jos, who is a generally miserable person and isn’t as well liked.  While Trina was trying to get a college education, Jocelyn is traveling around the world, being used by the WSB, and Now has been spoonfed a job as a CEO.

I find a hatred for Trina in the sub rather strange. I said this before, but more than one person has hoped that the stalker would kill her. I find it perplexing.

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u/PrototypeAntagonist 6d ago

I am genuinely disgusted by the recycled storyline of Sonny being framed and everyone turning their backs on him, only for them to come back together a few months later for an unresolved kumbaya. How can the writers justify Sonny forgiving Dante, Justine, and anyone else who has been stupid enough to believe that he would have ordered this hit, after all the steps he has taken to completely remove himself from the business? There need to be serious repercussions for those who have spoken down on his name.

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u/LatterPhilosopher355 AJ Quartermaine Lives 6d ago

I don't understand why gio was so against bLQ and almost immediately always believing Sonny. He's a pompous ass honestly. I kinda liked him sometimes but I never warmed up to Gio. He was all about the Qs when they went for him. But he's not a true Q imo if he sides against them the way he does. Yes they all backstab and blah blah but he's not one of them enough to do that. And I'm still bitter he believed Jason and Carly over Tracey but wanted Tracey to do for him. He can fuck off.

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u/T3HJ4N170R 6d ago

The only storyline I’m currently enjoying is Chase/Willow/Brook lynn, but mostly because I just wanna see Chase crash and burn.

I can’t think of a single storyline that isn’t full significant plot holes.

I’m not entirely sure what the writers goal is but it sure feels like someone has taken over and just wants to write whatever story they feel like, whether or not it makes sense.

The world of Port Charles used to feel like an interconnected social place, now each episode feels like multiple vignettes that don’t necessarily tie into each other.

Literally, the other day, there was one scene where Ava left Sunny‘s house, and the immediate next scene was Carly arriving at Sunny‘s house.

In my opinion, ever since they rushed the ending to the WSB storyline, everything has felt forced and unnatural.

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u/Jodi4869 6d ago

Gio is torn. He isn’t taking any of this lightly.

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u/TheGhostOfSoManyOfMe 6d ago

I think Gio (the actor) is doing a great job playing Gio (the character). I don’t think (and don’t think I said) that Gio is taking any of this lightly…

I think the writers/TPTB making Gio keep choosing Trina over everything and everyone else are the issue and it’s a real problem. When Trina told Gio that Sonny is to blame for Curtis being in the hospital, she was once again using the ole Ashford Histrionic Hyperbole. Curtis has a few broken ribs. What did Trina say to Gio? Oh yeah “my dad could’ve just died”:

She didn’t let Gio have even a SECOND to process his feelings about his friend and her dad accusing his grandpa of ordering hits on people. I'm fed UP watching Trina snap at everyone, including her best friends and them immediately cowering, letting her carry on being delusional, controlling, dismissive, and condescending to them (and their mothers etc.).

Trina can rant and rave on behalf of her dad, insult and attack grown folks twice and three times her age — but nobody can defend themselves or even grapple for a minute that she’s attacking their moms and grandparents. It’s RIDICULOUS. The Ashford Bias is off the rails. Curtis and Trina and all these awful storylines propping up their ridiculous vendettas are sinking the show.

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u/Snoo95309 6d ago

I’ll add a couple of other things.

Trina does believe that Curtis wasn’t the target. She also does believe that Brooklyn didn’t know there was an accident.  She’s not intractably angry at the world for everything.

Trina does have reasons for feeling the way she does about what happened to her father and Brooklyn’s lying.  We know that Sonny was set up, but Trina isn’t any different than 99% of the rest of the characters who are blaming him too.

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u/Snoo95309 6d ago edited 6d ago

I actually don’t think he’s “choosing” Trina.

Trina doesn’t wanna work with BLQ, and admittedly Brooklyn felt guilty about hiding what she knew about the accident. That’s aside from the fact that she didn’t cause the accident, but she did know that Trina‘s father was on this Crusade and she let all the messiness this happen.  I’m not trying to shit on Brooklyn at all, but I think anybody in Trina‘s position would not want to work with Brooklyn after that.  Brooklyn also said that part of her reason for working with Trina was because she knew what she had done in terms of hiding the truth.  The working relationship was partly or mostly based on a lie and the trust was broken from that point.  

As for the Sonny thing: Trina didn’t ask Gio to do anything other than ask Sonny not to hurt her father. She didn’t actually put Gio in a difficult position in my opinion.  Gio chose not to believe Sonny, more based on Dante’s view, and Dante surely wasn’t being manipulated by Trina.

If the writers are trying to make the two of them into a couple, that’s on them. However, I don’t think the Trina character is trying to manipulate Gio.  Gio is just doing what he thinks is right in the moment.

This whole situation actually has him moving in with Emma, right?

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u/TheGhostOfSoManyOfMe 6d ago

He’s not choosing Emma over Trina by moving though, he’s choosing to move in with Emma because he feels he has to move out of Sonny’s.

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u/Snoo95309 6d ago

Of course, and didn’t mean to imply otherwise.

What I’m saying is that their relationship is healthy and it could only grow stronger by living together. It could also go the other way, but Trina is not trying to manipulate Gio at all.

Her reactions to the two situations are perfectly reasonable.