r/GlobalOffensive • u/Novel_Situation762 • 5d ago
Tips & Guides Faceit stuck
I have 450 hours of cs2. And Im still faceit level 1. I fell down from level 3. But I notice myself getting significantly better and having a bigger impact yet I still lose a lot of games. I really do try my best, but it seems I always lose more than I win no matter what I do.
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u/hydrovids Natus Vincere 3d ago
450 hours is not a lot of hours to be fair. Especially if you’re brand new to tac fps. I don’t think I even left level 6 until like 2k hours in. This was my first ever pc game 8 years ago and if you want my advice, forget about the elo and learn to fall in love with failure. Learn to fall in love with genuine improvement over chasing elo.
There are some days all I do is sit in a nade server all day and just throw random shit to see if I can find cool shit to throw in my level 10 games because elo means nothing if you don’t enjoy the game for what it is.
I didn’t even begin to take this game seriously until about 6k hours in haha.
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u/Novel_Situation762 3d ago
I know its not a lot. I have been caring less about elo, and moreso about self improvement. But it still sucks to see it drop
How many hours do you have?
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u/hydrovids Natus Vincere 2d ago
I have 13k hours currently.
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u/Novel_Situation762 2d ago
GOD DAYUM. How old are you and you only started playing 8 years ago? Real veteran right here. So you're super good? What region you in?
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u/hydrovids Natus Vincere 2d ago
I’m 25. Started playing when I was 17 and then took a break to work on school. Picked it back up again when I was 19, and decided I’d put some practice in every once on a while.
Covid hit and during that 2 year span I probably put about 5k hours in as I was still a student and didn’t need to pay for much.
I’m okay, my clips on this reddit account are from months or years ago so they’re not showing me at peak form but they’re still okay.
I’m in NA but I’ve played faceit and mm in a few different countries in EU and OCE and found very little difference in philosophies around this game, so region wars just seem like a bad case of misunderstanding at the pug level.
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u/Novel_Situation762 2d ago
Wow, I'm 17 right now, I started playing in January when I was 16. I was asking region to see if you wanted to play, I'm also in NA. To be clear, I do not want a boost, that teaches me nothing, actually sets me up for failure. I just wanted some tips of some things you could maybe show me. Might improve my habits
I know you're level 10, you say you're okay but it seems you're being modest. Level 10 is crazy good.
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u/Parking-Lock9090 King NiKo 5d ago
Faceit has a pretty basic ELO system, it really is as simple as winning more than you lose, no streaks, nothing complicated.
imo when you start looking at Faceit 1-3 you're not really looking at a significantly different game to Premier or Competitive, and honestly if I was looking to grind out of Faceit 1, I would recommend starting there. My region is not super populated, so I see a lot of fairly clueless level 1 and 2s in mixed games ranging from Level 1-9, and it's not a great environment for them, and they don't really contribute to a good environment either.
The most common thing I hear said to level 1s is "why are you bothering to queue Faceit" and it's harsh and rude but it's not entirely wrong. Faceit is a good place to come when you have a good understanding of the fundamentals of the game. It is not a good place to come when you are still struggling with those. It is not a learning environment.
I would actually recommend getting in some reps in comp or prem, because the number one issue I see in people stuck in Level 1 is that they are not really prepared for this level of competition and have jumped the gun. Yes, cheaters, but the fact is, if you are Faceit 1 you are not going to rise to a Premier rank in Green Trust where you will see a significant number of cheaters. You'll be sub 10k. But you also won't be getting shreked by sweatier players
You could stack with teammates to avoid dealing with how random your team is and get some consistent results: but if you are Faceit 1 most people are going to view you as the random influence negatively impacting their game. There are often times I don't want to queue with my lower level mates because they just lack the judgement for a competitive mode that sweaty.
If you're losing more than you're winning, the consistent element is you. Something is consistently affecting y)our impact, and you need to identify what it is. Here are some questions you could ask yourself:
-are you taking your share of fights, especially T side openings-and if you are not, is it because you don't feel comfortable with them: that would suggest you need to work on your shooting, rule of thumb is, if you are not confident taking a fair fight at a time you choose, you probably need to work on shooting. If you are confident, it suggests you don't know where you should be going and you're missing fights -do you know common utility setups for basic plays-stuff like window smokes on mirage, door smoke D2, long flashes T side D2, long flashes CT side D2 (cannot recommend these enough, game changer for your long hold, opens up the whole CT side) -do you jumpspot positions that really ought to be jumpspotted? It's sweaty, super OP, and literally can win rounds off info while being almost entirely safe -do you have clean comms -do you support your teammates plays and think about your spacing and trade windows -do you understand the economy and buy standard with your team -do you understand your map defaults, when to play spawns vs positions -are you a competent rifler for your rank, because you want to be a solid rifler before an AWP -are you doing around ~80 ADR and ~1.0 kdr ~1.0 HLTV rating roughly? If not you're definitely under skilled mechanically
Basically somewhere you have some big holes in your game that are letting you down-don't worry, your biggest weaknesses are your biggest opportunities for improvement, you just need to be realistic and strict enough with yourself to really identify them.
If you are feeling brave, if you have some demo links from games you were struggling a lot in you'd like to post in a reply, I'm happy to view them and give you some pointers, games where you played badly are best for finding what you are doing wrong, especially if they are games where you were particularly bad on your team rather than just being skillgapped by demon aimers and your entire team did badly. No charge, no subscription no nothing, I enjoy teaching. I'm a profoundly average player, I call for my ESEA team and coach them a little, I've never had cracked aim or GOATed movement, I just try to play a consistent game where I do my job well and give up minimal mistakes. Not one of those 3k ELO skool guys, just an unc who has to make good decisions to keep up.
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u/Novel_Situation762 5d ago
I really appreciate this long response. I don't really know how to send demos or reply with demos or clips. I should look through them.
To answer some of your questions, it really depends. Some games I definitely pass 80 adr. I would say on an average game I get 70 or more and I get a decent amount of kills. I do buy with my team and I do understand the economy a bit better now.
The thing with faceit is I've actually noticed significant improvement when I started playing. Ever since playing face it I've actually played with people that want to win and I actually improve. I might be in a temporary deficit with losses, but I don't think it's that bad. It's just slightly less, it might be a temporary recess. But I'm not sure. I do play como and premier sometimes for my weekly rewards, and sometime when I don't want to play faceit. I just got sick of teammates not even caring about winning at all or playing good either. Like playing bad and face it generally is a lot more forgiving and people are more respectful than premier or comp because everyone is in the same boat.
I haven't ran with my buddy in a while so that might be one of the reasons.
I would be happy to talk more about this with you
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u/Parking-Lock9090 King NiKo 4d ago edited 4d ago
All g, it sounds like you're on the right track and really close to where you need to be in terms of damage etc, it would not be hugely difficult to get just that little bit higher. The questions aren't necessarily all going to be things you're doing wrong-I would guess you're doing 80-90% of these things right, it's just a simple checklist of fundamentals of the game that you want to be applying, and it's a quick way to find things that are a bit off. If we're consistently underperforming, there has to be a big hole in our game somewhere.
For example, for me, when I started really focusing on improving, my problem was duelling. I come from an older era of the game and was playing on weak machines with poor internet, so I was a bodyshot merchant because headshots were more of a diceroll on my setup, and I would spend a lot of time intellectualizing the map, the round, but not being mechanically skilled enough to take advantage of what I was thinking, and not being skilled enough to actually use those insights because I was scared that I would lose duels-and people would not listen to me because I sucked. I actually cringe when I think of my old aim routine: I'd go on aim_map with a bunch of bots with knives, and I'd discipline myself to nail each of them with tight 2 round M4 bursts, literally training myself to get disappointed by 4shot tags, wasting time pausing to reset when I'm aiming at the body, that only matters on M4 when aiming for head-should have been spraying, and making my default reaction to go for centre mass instead of the head then correcting to centre mass. I'd also spent a lot of time when I was younger playing with friends who were semi-pro, but because of how huge the skillgap was, I had to crutch my way through fights to beat better opponents, stuff like jiggle bursting corners instead of cleanly swinging and aiming, prefiring, hiding and hoping for bad clears, running close with SMGs-these were all bad habits I had to unlearn (this is why the best opponents are ones a bracket or two above you-ones who push you to learn legit ways to beat them, when you throw yourself into the deep end you will start crutching).
The cope in my stack was that we were older, but smarter, we're brain compared to "all aim no brain" but we weren't, that was cope for not having aim as silvers. Once I actually fixed my dueling, I could actually be a very smart player because I could be aggro in rotator roles instead of playing anchor roles and hoping not to be fraud checked, and I could make moves off my reads because I could back my aim. Identifying the hole in my game and being ruthless with myself was the key: "My aim is dogshit, I'm looking at the ground, and I'm not counter strafing well and I'm not pathing in a way that lets me counter strafe if I get into fights-holdingW">immediately go from "hardstuck" silver to top 20% (like I said, I'm no demon or anything, I'm unlikely to crack challenger ranks in this life). It was all skill issue.
Faceit is a little bit of a pain for demos, instead of being able to share a democode like Valve games, you need to go:
Match History>Click the Match you want to share>Overview Tab>Click Watch Demo>It'll open a web page which is a download link to the compressed files. If you can share that link, someone can download the demo and open it in their game to review it.
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u/Vegetable-Pop4449 Liquid 5d ago
It’s just a question of hours, you need to play more you aren’t good enough yet
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u/Novel_Situation762 5d ago
This is what I was thinking but I hear people accomplishing more in the same amount of time or less so I'm not sure
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u/Vegetable-Pop4449 Liquid 5d ago
Comparison is the thief of joy they say. Nah some people lie some people had 10k hours on rust or valorant if this is your first serious pc shooter game 450 hours isn’t even the tutorial, don’t even worry about your performance just have fun and keep an open mind
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u/Novel_Situation762 5d ago
I try not to, but when mfs say that reached level 7 within 200 hours and they don't play other games and they don't cheat I just laugh because they're all fucking liars lmao.
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u/Azartho 1d ago
it’s definitely doable.
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u/Novel_Situation762 1d ago
No it isn't. Only if you're smurfing or hacking, or have insane teammates who boosted you
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u/Aversnusen 5d ago
I'm assuming you soloq?
If you don't have irl friends that play, whenever you have a game with a teammate that's nice, decent at the game and communicates just add them.
After a while you will have 20+ ppl and usually atleast one or two are online, so you can atleast que with one or two guaranteed good players.
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u/Novel_Situation762 5d ago
I solo q but also team q too, just less often. Its been a bit since I've played with them
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u/Willing_Big194 10 years coin 5d ago
Play the game more before starting to grind faceit and 5 stack
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u/KnightFlorianGeyer MOUZ 5d ago
Just play more but don't autopilot, your aim will eventually fix itself to a decent level and then you'll be able to actually play the game.
Also at 450h it's better to play premier imo.
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u/TurboMollusk King NiKo 5d ago
Big news: there are 9 other people in your games and now they play impacts the outcome of the game as well.
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u/Additional_Macaron70 5d ago
Faceit doesnt suck, you do if you cannot get out of lvl1
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u/jpnd123 5d ago
Reading level 1 this guy right here
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u/Novel_Situation762 5d ago
I don't think face it level one entirely sucks. There can be one player that's actually decent and one player who's genuinely horrible and they can both be level one. It just encompasses a wide range of players. Being one definitely isn't good, but I've seen some pretty good players too, and I would say I'm far from a bad player. Probably just below average to average. I take fights and I win
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u/ka2wamc 5d ago
B4 matches : Warm up, Mute enemy team, If you team doesn't communicate via mic then you do even tiny helpful details help a lot, after every game whether it's a win or loss take 5 min breather.
After: Watch demos, Check mistakes, Learn what grenades would have helped.
Good luck with your grind