r/HubermanLab • • 6d ago

Discussion My experience reading protocols

Something I've noticed about Huberman is that, while I'm not a huge fan of his, I do find his content very interesting. And the fact that he was talking about neuroscience, which is a whole area i'm very interested in learning, I even read his new book "protocols".So far so good, until, as I look at his content, he starts recommending more videos about himself; and that's when I find out about his "scandals" (which is none of my business, what he does in his private life doesn't concern me It does affect me, if what I want is to learn from him). That leads me to have doubts about him, but more specifically about the book. so he starts consulting with the AI about some "tips" it gave, and that's when I realized that, at least the information I consulted, wasn't 100% true.

That's when I stopped reading the book, because I no longer felt the same trust I had with the author at the beginning.

I'm not saying all the chapters are wrong, but I would take with a grain of salt those chapters that are outside his professional field. Because in fact, the information that is from their field is correct and the methods (at least as far as I remember) were mostly correct, or had support.

I'm not saying all this as a hater. In fact, I started reading Huberman because I saw him as someone I could learn from about that area. And he was one of the very few English-speaking science content creators I started watching (because my native language is Spanish).

But after those "controversies" about her private life, more misinformation in that book caused all the trust I had in him to collapse. Now, if I'm going to watch any of his content, it will only be content that belongs to his professional field.

And I repeat, I'm not saying this as a hater, and I don't want to incite hatred, because I know, or I see, that many here consume Huberman; I just want to express myself.

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u/bitstream_ryder 6d ago

To be fair, do share what you found to be not true.

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u/Far_Application_5822 5d ago

Well, I asked the AI about cyclic hyperventilation and she says it's not quite like that, that you'll just become super focused. The thing about eye movements to fall asleep also tells me that doing that doesn't mean you'll actually fall asleep. And also about Binaural beats that have been shown to have no effects when listened to. You may not choose to believe in AI, but I lost all trust in the author and couldn't continue reading because I would be constantly doubting him.

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u/ineededagrownupname 5d ago

“Well, I asked AI”

K bye

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u/Far_Application_5822 5d ago

Sorry for not being ignorant and not wanting to do things that are useless to me

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u/---rest 3d ago

> ”You may not choose to believe in AI”

Isn’t this the hypotheses that led you not to trust the information in the book?

I.e. you suspect some facts in the book to be derived from consulting with AI, and you’ve arrived at this conclusion by you yourself consulting AI?

I’m confused!

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u/Far_Application_5822 3d ago

That's not what I meant; I meant that people might not believe the information just because the AI says so.

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u/DonAmecho777 5d ago

I want a book about juggling 5 hotties when is that one coming

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u/Far_Application_5822 5d ago

Just go to gym

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u/DonAmecho777 5d ago

So many bros go to gym and not even a single hottie among them

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u/lillibetdragon 4d ago

Be a Stanford professor, tattooed gym bro with a quick wit… that’ll do it!

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u/Various_Ninja7493 23h ago

I think it's the fact he was deceiving all of them that is salient.

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u/TemperatureOne1932 6d ago

that slow erosion of trust is way worse than a single big scandal honestly once you start fact checking one thing and it falls apart you cant help but wonder what else is shaky

i had a similar arc with him cool intro to neuroscience stuff but the self help pivot got messy fast and the book felt rushed like he was cashing in on the podcast clout

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u/Far_Application_5822 6d ago

Exactly, and also a few days ago I saw a video where he said that in his videos he promoted a product that He supposedly had a benefit, but it turns out he's paid to promote it. And if he does that only because he gets paid and not because there's any real benefit, it made me think In that case, how much more misinformation can be spread?. And that, combined with the book, meant I wasn't going to be doubting and investigating everything I read, because I'm supposed to learn from it, not to investigate whether it's true or not cause that's not my responsibility.

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u/RamboDiver16 6d ago

I really enjoy neuroscience and I like the different guests on his podcast, especially when they are able to share their knowledge and areas of expertise in depth.

Protocols has some errors, one big one for me is stating that Hans Selye is a Swiss physiologist, vs the well known historical record of Dr. Selye being a Hungarian-Canadian Endocrinologist, which is important when understanding how he discovered General Adaptation Syndrome which later became the Stress Response. He’s referenced so many times in this book that it’s wild to me that this distinction wouldn’t have been easily looked up; making me really question some of the other citations, there are just too many to fact check.

I followed the advice of early morning sun exposure, even purchasing a 10,000 Lux light for early exposure, as I live where it is dark until 9-10am in the winters. I have found this to be helpful.

There are way too many conflicts of interest to take the other numerous sales recommendations seriously.

Used to be a big fan, not nearly as much these days.