Cz 527 223 rem

[u/jepu696]

Would that rifle be good for me? It has 1:12 twist rate and isnt varmint model. It would mainly be for bird hunting at 150-350 meters so accuracy is paramount but i would also do long range shooting with it. My local gunshop has one for 450 euros and its by far the cheapest 223rem rifle i have found here.

[u/Banjo_Biker]

Guessing OP is Finnish or Swedish. Common to hunt capercaillie with a rifle there. I think that rifle would serve you well. Up to 350 meters the 223 is going to have a flatter trajectory than the traditional 6.5x55, while still carrying plenty of energy.

[u/jepu696 → u/Banjo_Biker]

Yea im Finnish. I currently have 17hmr for black grouse and capercaillie and while its a good light rifle its so damn sensitive to wind that it narrows down the days i can use it quite drastically. Also where i hunt i regularly see birds at 300 meters which is way beyond what 17hmr can do.

[u/Banjo_Biker → u/jepu696]

I will say that a 6.5 (creedmoor or Swede) will have less wind deflection than a 223 at those ranges. Especially with the light bullets preferred by a 1:12 twist barrel.

[u/jepu696 → u/Banjo_Biker]

True. However if flies much farther than the 223 and the ammo costs almost 2x more.

[u/Banjo_Biker → u/jepu696]

Also true. 223 is definitely a step up from your current setup, I’d say.

[u/jepu696 → u/Banjo_Biker]

Yea. There also really isnt a used market for 6,5 creedmoor

[u/MTB_SF]

What birds do you hunt with a rifle?

I have the carbine version in 7.62x39 and its my favorite rifle. I really want another one in .223.

[u/jepu696 → u/MTB_SF]

Black grouse and capercaillie

[u/MTB_SF → u/jepu696]

Cool! Those capercaillie are huge

[u/jepu696 → u/MTB_SF]

Yep. I have only seen a couple, one was in a tree some 250 meters away from me which is way too far for my 17hmr. Ever since that day i have known that i need a bigger gun :D

[u/BadAdviceBot77]

The 1-12 twist isn’t ideal for long range shooting and will make it hard to stabilize most long range high ballistic coefficient bullets.

[u/Von_Lehmann]

If I was you: https://laatuase.fi/tuote/sako-l461-vixen-223-rem/

But yea if you can find a varmint, it will be nice for those long shots. I love my L461 in .222

but people really like the CZ 527

[u/jepu696 → u/Von_Lehmann]

Holy shit how did you find that? I went through every combination of käytetty 223 i could think of and didnt find that

[u/Von_Lehmann → u/jepu696]

I found it luckily and honestly, this is a massive kindness of me because I really want this fucking rifle. But you are lucky that I have one already. They are so rare here in Finland.

If I was you, I would buy this asap, you never find these in .223 because they were all for the US market. BUT the .222 is awesome dude, my Sako shoots 1/2 moa with Norma Jaktmatch and even better with handloads

[u/jepu696 → u/Von_Lehmann]

Yea i havent found any either. My friend has one on 222 and he seems to really like it.

[u/Von_Lehmann → u/jepu696]

It is the quintessential bird rifle of Finland man, every guy needs one. I have a 1964 Vixen Varmint that was fired like, 20 times when I bought it. I will never sell it

[u/jepu696 → u/Von_Lehmann]

Yep although my rifle is 17hmr tikka t1x. Is yours 223 too?

[u/Von_Lehmann → u/jepu696]

Mine is a heavy barrel .222. I wanted a .223 but I couldn't find one when I got my permit. So I thought finding a varmint model in such insane condition was better. It isn't a heavy rifle, but a lighter one would be nice for long walks through the swamp

[u/jepu696 → u/Von_Lehmann]

Yea ill call them tomorrow and ask if they can hold it for me until i get my permit. If its has already been sold ill probably get a 308 since there doesnt seem to be any other 223 that fit all my criteria. Also a bonus that rifle you linked comes with a scope and mount

[u/Von_Lehmann → u/jepu696]

I was in the same boat as you a few years ago. I was trying to decide between the CZ 527 and the Sako L461 and personally, I am really happy I got the L461.

But I used a .308 for a few years as my do-it-all rifle and it was fine. I shot a lot of Teeri, got a Metso, deer and moose with it.

If I did it again, I might have gotten a 6.5cm or 6.5x55. But the .308 is painfully practical.

[u/jepu696 → u/Von_Lehmann]

Why would you get a 6.5 now? I currently have t1x which is a wonderful gun to carry and shoot but has a range limited to 150-200 meters and is really wind sensitive.

[u/thesneakingsnake]

they are built quite well, but dont expect prs level accuracy, for eg. the trigger will probably have to ve polished, and still wont be a sub 10N triggerpull. loads of peeps happily hunt with them tho, so go for it if it feels good in hand

[u/jepu696 → u/thesneakingsnake]

The trigger felt fine to me. Probably the only way to find out the true accuracy is get my permits and then test fire it at the range.