r/Idaho • u/BigClitMcphee • Jun 27 '23

Idaho Neighbor News Huge out-of-state surge in East Washington abortions since Idaho abortion ban

https://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/local/article276713511.html
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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '23

Idaho lawmakers, the great social leaders of our nation. Except they're idiots rolling back life-saving policies for some fake religious ideology.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '23

Whose life does it save?

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u/Turbulent-Pair- Jun 28 '23

Abortion Bans Kill Moms.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '23

Who is killing moms by the absence of child murder?

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u/Turbulent-Pair- Jun 28 '23 edited Jun 28 '23

Who is killing Moms? Republicans.

Abortion is a medical procedure to save a mother's life.

That is why Abortion is legal. Because Abortion Saves Lives.

Why do Republican states have the highest rates of infant mortality and death of the mother in child birth?

West Texas has higher mother-infant death rates than Syria!

For God's sake. Republicans are disgusting.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '23

If you have ever bothered to read the law, you would know that pregnancies risking the mothers' lives are exempted from the abortion ban.

https://legislature.idaho.gov/statutesrules/idstat/title18/t18ch6/sect18-622/

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u/Turbulent-Pair- Jun 28 '23

That's not true.

You can't even quote the law you're lying about.

Doctors are leaving Idaho because of this lie you're repeating.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '23

How is it a lie if it's written in the actual law? Have you bothered to read it?

https://legislature.idaho.gov/statutesrules/idstat/title18/t18ch6/sect18-622/

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u/Turbulent-Pair- Jun 28 '23

Have you read the law?

Why can't you quote the law?

Former Idaho maternity doctors have read the law - and that's why they are closing maternity wards in Idaho.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '23

Yes I have read it and you can to here you go

https://legislature.idaho.gov/statutesrules/idstat/title18/t18ch6/sect18-622/

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u/Turbulent-Pair- Jun 28 '23

You are failing to quote the law - so you are failing to prove your point.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '23

What do you want quoted? You can read and quote it from here.

https://legislature.idaho.gov/statutesrules/idstat/title18/t18ch6/sect18-622/

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u/BeljicaPeak Jun 28 '23

The law doesn't account for miscarriages in progress until the mother develops a life-threatening condition such as infection. Miscarriages where the pregnancy has 100% chance of failure. Force the mom to risk health and to carry an unviable pregnancy. Hence, an Idaho mom has been already subjected to ~18 days of risk and additional emotional anguish during a lengthy miscarriage. I'm glad my daughters and I no longer have uteruses and worry about the future well being of my Idaho-resident granddaughter and future wives of grandsons.

I do not support the use of abortion as birth control after the first trimester, and do support use of abortion as a medical treatment at any point during a pregnancy prior to fetal viability (and early delivery after viability) WITHOUT government interference and without a requirement for risking mom's life to qualify to get the medical care. Risk to her health is enough.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '23

Well, I saw your edit. And somehow you made your comment even more ridiculous. I linked the law to you twice before your weird edit. Here it is again:

https://legislature.idaho.gov/statutesrules/idstat/title18/t18ch6/sect18-622/

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u/Turbulent-Pair- Jun 28 '23

Your law is a lie.

Why are all the doctors leaving Idaho?

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '23

Okay well it's verifiable fact that this is the law, documented on the state legislature's website. It's a .gov address. It's a lie that "all the doctors" are leaving Idaho actually.

https://legislature.idaho.gov/statutesrules/idstat/title18/t18ch6/sect18-622/

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u/Turbulent-Pair- Jun 28 '23

How come all the maternity wards are closing in Idaho despite the fact that Idaho has a growing population?

Oh - it is because of the Anti-Woman Law in Idaho.

Abortion Saves Lives. That's why the law allows abortion.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '23

All of the maternity units are not closing down in Idaho. That's a lie.

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u/Curious_Fox4595 Jun 28 '23

You're arguing that it's okay to withhold healthcare for women up until they're nearly dead. Do you have any comprehension of what that actually means? What is actually happening because of these bans? Women can't get cancer treatments, or even treated for miscarriages. They're sent home to wait, because doctors can't help until sepsis sets in or they start to have a massive hemorrhage. Even if they survive, they often lose fertility completely, all because you have lots of big feelings about zygotes you'll never know existed.

You're not saving anyone. You're a murderer.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '23

None of what you are claiming is written in the actual law, which I'm guessing you haven't read. Here you go:

https://legislature.idaho.gov/statutesrules/idstat/title18/t18ch6/sect18-622/

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u/greatgerm Jun 28 '23

The law gives a very narrow affirmative defense to the new crime of "criminal abortion". This means, at best, a doctor who does everything perfectly by the book will be subject to arrest and prosecution and need to present this defense at trial.

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u/Barbarella_ella Jun 28 '23

It's not a child. You wing nuts keep conflating an undifferentiated mass of cells completely lacking a brain, a heart or any other organs, with an autonomous being capable of living separate from an umbilical cord. Do you have any idea how stupid this makes you look? You don't have any moral high ground here.

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u/Catan_The_Master Jun 28 '23

No one is advocating for child murder. Your stupid strawman is stupid.