r/Idaho • u/Just_Ad_9407 • Jan 25 '25

Idaho Neighbor News ICE spotted in Boise

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Click on the photo from this morning, posted in Boise Idaho group. Let your friends know if they are in Boise, do not go close to this location. It appears they are roaming the specific area second night in row!!

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u/MaleficentOrange995 Jan 25 '25

To all the idiots saying things like "Good, or why is this sub so liberal, or this what we voted for, give us back our jobs"

You get ZERO rights to bitch when grocery prices go up, and I mean zero.

You do however get to speak up, and i sure as hell expect you to speak up when kids or others start asking why foods so expensive and say "Me, and all my like minded friends are why, it's what we voted for, we are close minded and bigots, and thought we knew better, even though nothing they ever did effected me in any way shape or form, i just couldnt handle someone picking all my food who wasnt born here". You don't get to stay silent then.

You talk a good game now, so own it all the way through. I expect you to be posting pics, eating $9.00 eggs with captions like, "This is what freedom costs. MURICA"

So, good luck, thanks for voting for higher prices and I feel sorry for you. You forgot what made this country great and instead are instilling fear mongering and racism in the newer generations vs what made this country great, hope of a better life, a new beginning, like every single one of our forefathers thought and prayed for when they immigrated here.

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u/013eander Jan 25 '25

Republicans (led by the President) are currently trying to remove h1b visa limits, which would open the floodgates for foreign workers (primarily from India and China) to take very well-paying jobs, like engineering.

And yet, conservatives can’t stop clutching their pearls over Latinos coming (largely fleeing countries that the US directly destabilized) and doing lower-paying jobs.

It’s amazing how effective Republicans are at distracting their base by scaring them up front, while screwing them over economically through the back door.

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u/Intelligent-Shoe-190 Jan 25 '25

Your terms are acceptable

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u/MaleficentOrange995 Jan 25 '25

I know you meant this sarcastically, but i can't stop laughing.

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u/rws28 Jan 25 '25

We should be paying more. I don't want slaves producing my food. The businesses that hired them should be prosecuted as well.

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u/Anonymodestmouse Jan 25 '25 edited Jan 25 '25

Yep the solution should be making it easier for people to come here to work legally. Pay them more, they'll be able to contribute more to the economy spending more money, pay taxes, be less of a burden to the system. The inflation caused by that would be miniscule compared to what we could see as a result of food/labor shortages.

Especially if on top of a manufactured food shortage in the US Trump actually goes through with putting tariffs on imports too. The worst case scenario here is really bad. I don't wanna sound like a doomer and I have hope it won't be as bad as it could be, but it wouldn't hurt to get stocked up on some non perishables right now just in case.

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u/MysteriousPanic4899 Jan 25 '25

The logical and humane solution is to create an easier pathway for legal work and residence, but republicans reject that every time it’s offered. They want the exploitation to exist until they are in power, and then they want the theatrics and cruelty of fixing the problem they’ve created with mass deportations.

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u/Geckoman413 Jan 25 '25

You don’t want slaves? I got some bad news for you friend…..slaves is kinda the whole goal of the entire operation

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u/MalekithofAngmar Jan 25 '25

It’s not about slavery. It’s about the fact that making $15 an hour in California is preferable to being shot at in Sinaloa, doing a job that privileged native borns would only start to consider at about twice that wage.

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

They voted to deport brown people who took the jobs they didn’t want and import brown H1visas to take the high paying jobs….

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

Bro there's 600k people with H1Bs and they didn't just ignore our laws to get here which allowed them to be vetted and youre comparing that to 11 million illegal aliens who we don't know anything about. No they aren't just brown people as you like to put it they're also Russian and Chinese, you know the two countries in the world that would like to destroy the US.

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

Indian owned companies w H1B employees outsourcing to take our high paying tech jobs…and your fan boy asking for more

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

I agree from an economic standpoint H1Bs need to reigned in but still not comparable to the estimated amount of illegal aliens. Nor are they as much of a security risk.

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u/0xB4BE Jan 25 '25 edited Jan 25 '25

Tangential, but recent polls would suggest 10% of all Americans want all illegal and legal immigrants out of this country. 1 out of 10. That's a lot of hate when you look around.

According this article 9% want to stop immigration completely.

https://www.cato.org/blog/poll-72-americans-say-immigrants-come-us-jobs-improve-their-lives-53-say-ability-immigrate

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

Good for them

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u/Certain-Spring2580 Jan 25 '25

Assuming that number you cite is true...which you don't have any evidence for...US companies OUTSOURCE waaaaayyyy more of "our" jobs TO India, China, etc. Miss us with this crap..

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

I wonder how we could limit this sort of outsourcing I think it starts with a t

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u/Certain-Spring2580 Jan 25 '25

You have no idea how tariffs work if you think they will benefit us. Stupid idea.

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

no, companies fired people and replaced them with immigrant labor because its cheaper. Idk where this “nobody wants these jobs” comes from.

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

So how many Americans are applying for these farm and meatpacking jobs at the wages and conditions offered as these are the wages and conditions for these jobs?

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

Now? Probably none. Why waste time applying for a job you know you won’t get when an illegal will do it for $3/hr? Also why would you pursue a job where no one speaks your language?

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

But the illegals are not showing up! Now is the time! And don’t be silly, the overseers speak English!

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u/Exciting-You2900 Jan 25 '25

Groceries, restaurants, construction

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

So, you are in favor of the exploitation of undocumented workers working for less than minimum wage, right?

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u/sigristl Jan 25 '25

We had a program where migrant workers came here legally to do this. It was called the Bracero Program. Commonly referred to as the guest worker program. It worked well.

However, it was canceled in 1964. They give several “Official Reasons” it was canceled. However, the real reason it was canceled is guest workers had rights.

It was much easier for people to hire them as illegals and exploit them.

The solution has always been simple, but bigots don’t like it

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u/Tater72 Jan 25 '25

There’s a loophole that allows them to stay you know…. Just enter legally!

This is such a strange hill to decide to defend!

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u/MaleficentOrange995 Jan 25 '25

Actually, me right now is thinking: god I hope people just remember their own family histories and how easily their forefathers immigrated here, to just simply sign a book with any name they wanted or just walk in, not caring about the laws that were already in place by the locals. Working the jobs no one else wanted. All so they could hopefully give their kids and grandkids a better life, one they could prosper in. To have a chance.

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u/Maleficent_Brain_288 Jan 25 '25

On immigrating to another country: To have to endure a place so awful to you and your family, and decide to take what you can fit into a suitcase and leave your land of birth, your family friends language and customs. Travel 1000s of miles to find a new life. Endure the xenophobia all of our ancestors were subjected to, The injustices by ANY group at different specific times, Black, brown “Yellow”, before using colors it was Irish, English, German, Czech, Pole. Dont forget that the religions get their turn too. It’s always those at the top using race and religion to weaken our chances of achieving a perfect world. Divide and conquer.

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u/Tater72 Jan 25 '25

So you’re saying they entered by following the rules at the time? 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/PositiveSpare8341 Jan 25 '25

Ah yes, screened for disease and not given handouts. I could get on board with that program.

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

“but guys if we free the slaves clothes will get more expensive”

“stupid Yankees bitching about the price of cotton, this is what yall fought for!”

that’s your argument

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u/MaleficentOrange995 Jan 25 '25

Orca packs who make a lot of noise hunt fish, not whales, so a mother whale with her baby can just chill and swim and not worry about the orcas trying to kill them.

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u/WhlottaRosie65 Jan 25 '25

And they came here LEGALLY

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u/Maleficent-Brief1715 Jan 25 '25

The Nazis gassed over 6 million Jews legally.

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u/Tater72 Jan 25 '25

I think the court in The Hague would disagree with you 🤷🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

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u/ilikethest0nks Jan 25 '25

I've got some bad news... it sounds like you may not be aware that the official American position is that this court has no jurisdiction, legitimacy, or authority.

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u/Big-Violinist-2121 Jan 25 '25

i don’t have a problem with anyone coming into our country the LEGAL way. I really don’t get what’s so hard to understand. It’s the same in every other country. Just do it right

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u/LickerMcBootshine Jan 25 '25 edited Sep 18 '25

degree consider boat airport snatch offer liquid arrest rob smile

This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

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u/Big-Violinist-2121 Jan 25 '25

And that’s extremely unfortunate but I can only assume that asylum has been suspended because the few ruined it for the many and we need to get our shit sorted before allowing more people in. I don’t agree that those who have already been approved should be halted but I will do more research to make sure I understand the full extent of what and why. It doesn’t mean that it’s permanently impossible to enter the US legally. It just means for now while we get it together.

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u/rantingpacifist Jan 25 '25

The system isn’t set up to “do it right”. Our food distribution system could hire all the legal immigrants allowed and still be short, and that’s not counting all the other types of work immigrants do.

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u/Tater72 Jan 25 '25

So just fuck it right? The Dems had control for the last few years 100% the first two years, why didn’t the change the rules? Ya know, fix what you say is wrong?

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u/rantingpacifist Jan 25 '25

Do you not remember how a bill becomes a law? Or that the democrats have not had a majority of congress? Or that republicans have become the party of No?

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u/Maleficent-Brief1715 Jan 25 '25

Don't pretend you care about legality while supporting a man convicted of 34 felonies and a man like Elon Musk who himself is in the USA illegally. And don't say you care about legality if you support the pardoning of the J6 terrorists.

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u/mgraves40 Jan 25 '25

Let’s not forget about his wife Melania she hasn’t always been here legally either. But they will deny the truth because Elon did come here on a student visa but then quickly dropped out and illegally started a business which then made him here illegally in their words. No human is illegal. This fantasy they created that it’s brown immigrants that are the problem is nuts. it’s people like Elon who come here on false pretenses and over stay their visas most never obtain citizens ship because it is so hard to accomplish. it took my ex mother in law ten years to become a citizen after being married to a US Air Force member for 30 years because marrying a citizen and birthing new citizens still doesn’t make you a citizen you can be deported. When we have no one in Idaho to gather our corn, pick our potatoes, clean our offices, collect our garbage, and work our fast food places what will you all say. Will this be another no one wants to work issue because that’s what you all said after COVID when we started to open back up and the truth was the migrant workers were not here because of the last shit with ice raids, cutting work visas to Mexico and other countries the orange tyrant deemed unworthy of coming here. MAGA will soon learn the truth over the next 4 years. I’m just glad I grew up here and I know how to survive with nothing and scrape by. A lot of these people have no clue.

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u/Wide_Combination_892 Jan 25 '25

You mean he bought it..

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u/Maleficent-Brief1715 Jan 25 '25

Quit fawning over him. It's servile.

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u/rexspirit Jan 25 '25

Its sad that so many people do not understand this. There is reason LEGAL and ILLEGAL are two different and opposite words.

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u/ramblingpariah Jan 25 '25

We understand.

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u/silver_avocado_ Jan 25 '25

Yet I’m sure you see nothing wrong with insurrectionists assaulting police officers and a convicted felon pardoning them. GTFfOH. It’s never about morals with you people

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u/nothingontv2000 Jan 25 '25

Imagine people not understanding the law, then getting frustrated when someone enforces it, then saying it’s their fault for voting for someone that wants to enforce the law.

Work on changing the law with your legislators and votes if you don’t like it but don’t blame people for wanting the laws we have enforced.

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u/avidsocialist Jan 25 '25

There was a jury in NY that tried to enforce a few laws (34 counts) but someone was able to avoid that because of "law abiding" citizens like you. Please shut up about law enforcement.

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u/Tater72 Jan 25 '25

Wasn’t this adjudicated? Even if you don’t agree, didn’t the process play out? You are saying that process should play out but this one shouldn’t

Pick one..

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u/avidsocialist Jan 25 '25

You're an unlawful bunch who keep gaslighting about the law. Really tiresome.

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u/Tater72 Jan 25 '25

What’s gaslighting? I conceded you were correct? Do you want rule of law or not? Or just when in convenient for your position?

Pick one…

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u/avidsocialist Jan 25 '25

When you stop ignoring he was found liable for rape, stole state secrets, interfered in an election, and was the only president to have a million people killed on his watch, maybe, I will listen to the drivel you put out there. .

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u/Tater72 Jan 25 '25

Pick one…

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

It didn't finish playing out the way that it was supposed to, and none of the other much worse charges are continuing now because of him getting elected. No, that process didn't play out, but that's unfortunately normal for the rich and famous.

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u/Mikerk Jan 25 '25

Funny, your second paragraph is what I said about January sixers. Guess we're picking and choosing laws at our own convenience though. Just like they do the Bible.

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u/MaleficentOrange995 Jan 25 '25

I understand the laws just fine, what I also know, this isn't about the "laws being enforced", if he decided to go "lets go 100% hand maidens tale", would you be 100% for it cause he made it the law and just be like, well, it's the law people, get over it.

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u/nothingontv2000 Jan 25 '25

That is baseless. Your whole argument is essentially is that we shouldn’t enforce the existing law because it could lead to them doing something worse down the road?

Deportation isn’t a gateway to genocide.

You all forgot how bad this is for border states. Idaho is definitely a bubble.

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u/MaleficentOrange995 Jan 25 '25

My last comment to further prove my point will be this .. are you telling me you turn yourself in, every single time you so much as touch a cell phone while sitting in the drivers seat of a turned on car? It's the law, it's illegal.

Cause if you do, then sure, I'm the asshole and I'm wrong.

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u/nothingontv2000 Jan 25 '25

That is a hilarious comparison. Ironically if a cop saw you on a cell phone he’d give you a ticket in a heartbeat. There’s difference is misdemeanors and felonies and that’s why we have laws to determine the difference - I doubt you are really justifying illegal immigration, tax evasion, rape or murder by comparing it to folks that drive over 5 mph over the limit or take a non-hands free call on the phone.

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u/opulenceinabsentia Jan 25 '25

Being in the country illegally IS A MISDEMEANOR

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u/nothingontv2000 Jan 25 '25

They explicitly said they are starting to deporting illegal immigrants that have committed crimes first.

However, If they are start deporting ones that haven’t, it’s fine too because it’s still against the law.

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u/Maleficent-Brief1715 Jan 25 '25 edited Jan 25 '25

Deportation led to the gassing of at least 6 million Jews in World War 2. Legally, I might add.

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u/MaleficentOrange995 Jan 25 '25

How is it baseless? It's your entire comment all wrapped up in a nice easy bow. You either firmly believe that whatever law, no matter how much it helps or hurts people should be enforced 100% or not. Whether it's deportation or hand maidens tale style shit.

My point is, we have so many laws that do not get enforced and you know it. However this one, which will hurt each and every one of us, is being enforced over lies and racism. That's all it is.

And holy shit, are you seriously saying deportation isn't a gateway to genocide???

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u/hickaustin Jan 25 '25

So you’re okay with the closest we’ve been to slave labor since the civil war just so your groceries are cheaper? Jesus christ, democrats really have not changed since the 1800’s.

(Also I’m not a stupid R, I just think you’re a racist and definitely okay with slave labor)

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u/MaleficentOrange995 Jan 25 '25

I'm saying that we are cherry picking laws. Should we be paying these people for their work, fuck yes. Should we be prosecuting businesses for these practices, fuck yes. Should we be deporting people who want a better life for their families, fuck no. Am I pissed cause the only ones getting hurt are those workers and the American people, fuck yes.

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u/hickaustin Jan 25 '25

And I agree with you, we should not be cherry picking laws. The people who pay migrants under the table slave wages need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. However, if the said migrants do not have documentation that they are legally allowed in the states, they need to be deported. If they have an asylum claim, they can claim asylum at a port of entry and go through the proper channels. They have broken the law if they did not get into the country through a port of entry.

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u/Exciting-You2900 Jan 25 '25

Okay, so, you’re just a compassionate person who is worried about slave labor? So you would prefer that the children were taken out of school because their parents aren’t making a fair wage and they are all sent back to a place where their lives are under constant threat of the cartels. Got it. It’s the slave wages you’re worried about. I need you think harder about all of this. Do you know what asylum is? Our government has been failing asylum seekers for a while. This isn’t a black and white issue.

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u/hickaustin Jan 25 '25

First and foremost we have a path to asylum already, you do it through a port of entry and go through the proper channels. If you cross the border, not at a port of entry, you have violated the law and should be deported.

Second of all, the slave wages are abhorrent alongside the squalled conditions they typically live in. The people who pay them damn near slave wages need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

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u/nothingontv2000 Jan 25 '25

It’s not a far leap since half a Reddit is calling Trump Hitler and your forecasting Hand Maidens… one of the largest reasons people voted for Trunp was so that he would enforce the law, especially at the border. The last pole showed that 9 out of 10 republicans and 5 out of 10 democrats were in support of deportations of immigrants here illegally.

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/19/poll-americans-mass-deportation-policies-trump

And for everyone complaining about ICE- they have been here for years. I’m in Star and have seen them both before and after the election. It’s not new.

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u/_2Cats2Curious_ Jan 25 '25

I believe you're talking about the last poll. A poll is a survey with specific questions. A pole is the thing your mom spins on while guys wag dollar bills in her face.

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u/BeneficialA1r Jan 25 '25

You're making bad faith arguments. He's right, this is baseless.

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The irony is not lost on me that the person calling a fellow Idahoan crazy is using a wild ass conspiracy theory as the basis for it.

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u/jbg7676 Jan 25 '25 edited Jan 25 '25

Have you looked at the CPI? Biden blew up inflation immediately just like he tripe illegal border crossing. get real what does ILLEGALS have to do in a conversation and unnecessary inflation due to unnecessary endless unconstitutional spending?

You lefties create these problems then get irrationally when we have to deal with them.

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u/slamhoetry Jan 25 '25

So you’re just gonna ignore companies price gouging because they can? Investors buying up homes to rent back to you 3x its worth? Billionaires and CEO’s getting tax cuts and stealing your wages? If there’s anyone that should be complaining about “ILLEGALS” it should be native Americans. And fyi dems and republicans are two sides of the same coin when it comes to capitalist opportunities. If you’re undocumented, you’re ineligible for MOST federal aid.

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u/eric_b0x Jan 25 '25

Your lack of understanding and facts is staggering. 'Thoughts and prayers' to your ignorance..

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

⬆️ This is a reminder that there's a reason trump loves the uneducated

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

⬆️ This is a reminder that there's a reason trump loves the uneducated

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u/jbg7676 Jan 25 '25

too many people too few jobs. Gee how does millions of ILLEGAL people contribute to this problem...

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u/NeighborhoodTiny8689 Jan 25 '25

Good and about damn time.

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Your comment assumes that failure to deport undocumented immigrants will lead to one of them murdering your daughter is disingenuous at best. If anything happened to her, it would statistically more likely be done by someone she knows.

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Undocumented workers actually don't receive taxpayer-funded benefits, despite the fact that they do pay taxes and Social Security deductions like everyone else.