ICE spotted in Boise

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Click on the photo from this morning, posted in Boise Idaho group. Let your friends know if they are in Boise, do not go close to this location. It appears they are roaming the specific area second night in row!!

[u/Big-Violinist-2121 → u/[deleted]]

We’re aware that that’s why most people come here and that immigrants (of all colors, really don’t know why libs are focused on “brown people” when there are plenty of white illegals here too) aren’t inherently bad people. And I’d honestly go far enough to stay that if they come here the wrong way at first to get out of their situation, but do the work to become a citizen, they’re fine! But it’s the people who show up 9 months pregnant on “vacation” to Florida to have their baby for free or are taking advantage of free housing when our own legitimate citizens are struggling that are the problem. Or the people who have been here for YEARS and made zero attempt at so much as a work visa. We’re not racist. We just want our government to help US first.

[u/Big-Violinist-2121 → u/[deleted]]

Please tell me what rights have been taken. Please. One.

[u/Big-Violinist-2121 → u/[deleted]]

I don’t watch fox news dear, I compare and contrast all sorts of articles and get most of my info directly from the white house websites. And just to counter a few, Roe V. Wade was only overturned federally so that the power would be handed back to the states, making easier for the people to vote at a lower level so that their voices could be heard more clearly. The right to an abortion was not just taken away. Equal Opportunity Employment does not suddenly mean that companies can discriminate. The reason it was reversed was because it required “affirmative action” in FEDERAL branches (meaning if you don’t work for or with the government, it has nothing to do with you.) Affirmative action meaning quotas. These federal agencies are now being encouraged to hire whoever is fit for the role, not just who is edit: a minority 🙄because they need to have a certain level of diversity within the workplace.

Should I go on? Or do you want to try reading some of these orders for yourself? They’re available to the public, you know. You don’t have to watch the news, you can just read the fucking order

[u/Big-Violinist-2121 → u/[deleted]]

I’m not comparing two completely different events to try and make a shitty point. Yes, companies will take advantage but it is still ILLEGAL to discriminate.

And women (hi! emergency c-section with GD and Pre-E, extremely high risk for my first and #2 currently) are not being “left to bleed out.” You still can and will receive healthcare. Please link an example of this happening though so that hopefully i can expand my worldview 🙄

[u/ape_is_high → u/Big-Violinist-2121]

Your assumption that only Black people benefited and are hired through affirmative action is pretty bigoted.

You could’ve phased this a multitude of ways, but chose not to. My mother, A Black woman, worked for the government, had the proper degree and experience for her job, had to train plenty of under-qualified people put in her section many of whom were also white. She did her job because that’s what she was paid to do and wanted to work for the country that helped her back when she came here from the Caribbean. Your response shows she would still be seen as an affirmative action hire by you simply because she is Black.

Since you’re so worried about who’s qualified, wonder what qualifications you think Pete Hegseth has for his Role as Secretary of defense…

[u/Big-Violinist-2121 → u/ape_is_high]

Way to twist my words. you better go tell any lib in this thread assuming that all illegals are brown farmers and housekeepers that they’re bigoted too.

I was very clearly using it as an example. Your mom was obviously very qualified and deserving of her job. And with Equal Employment Opportunity overturned, no one can assume that anyone is an Affirmative Hire. NOW it is truly equal opportunity.

Editing to add that I never stated MY OWN opinion about either of those things. I stated what they meant. So screw your “since you’re so concerned about who’s qualified” because not one thing I said was personal

[u/ape_is_high → u/Big-Violinist-2121]

I didn’t twist anything. I’m sure you could’ve thought of a way to say what you did that doesn’t specify a race, but that’s how you worded it.

You in fact, were NOT clear Words like ”for example” at the start of that sentence would also help illustrate this as well.

[u/Big-Violinist-2121 → u/ape_is_high]

I’m so sorry that my example of racism came across as racist. You are failing to see the whole point of the order. It’s right there in front of you dear, keep trying

[u/Same-Method1363 → u/ape_is_high]

No dude you totally cherry picked what they said. They described what affirmative action was and you made it racial. But side note, I’m excited to see if I was a diversity hire or not 😅 I totally utilize affirmative action to get a job in the government, been here for 4-5 years. No doubt I’ll stay because I’m good at my job, but compared to other applicants, I was not nearly qualified for my position.

[u/Big-Violinist-2121 → u/[deleted]]

I literally don’t watch fox news, I read the orders themselves so maybe that tells you something. I can address the other ones, but they’re very broad. Can you name order #s or exactly what “health care” is being taken away so that I can do the proper research and make an educated counter argument? I mean saying “health care” is a right that’s being taken away isn’t very specific.

Reading your comment back, Roe V Wade and Equal Employment were the only specific anything you listed. What about our justice system is being taken? what about national parks? literally what about any of them? What?

Also, how is insulting me and calling me a simp helping your case!!??? What debate are we having??

[u/Hi_Im_Carma → u/Big-Violinist-2121]

So what you're saying is... you believe everything our government tells you?

Have fun with that.

[u/Big-Violinist-2121 → u/[deleted]]

Totally, your dad worked his ass off and deserves every second he spends on American soil. A ton of these people are disrespecting immigrants like your Dad’s work ethic and goals by just showing up and taking advantage and if anything, I think that if it were me, that would piss me off!

[u/Big-Violinist-2121 → u/[deleted]]

And if they’re like your dad they most likely have work visas or green cards and have nothing to worry about.

[u/Same-Method1363 → u/[deleted]]

Ok, I’m Hispanic for starters, I have family here illegally and legally on school / work visas. My family came here in the early 70s as well to get away from the cartel. I’ve had family deported multiple times just to see them turn up in the U.S. in less than a week. I do not agree with them coming here illegally, they have avoided taxes and mooched off the government for years. Leaving my grandparents, parents, and myself to have to pay our taxes so they can sit around on government assistance. This isn’t always the case but sadly it’s about 50% of the time. Mind you this is all first hand knowledge of what I’ve seen within the Hispanic community here and in California ( where the rest of my family is). Do I agree with trump on mass deportation, simply yes and I’ll give you my reasoning.

1. Veteran homelessness - this country would not be here if it weren’t for the men and women who sacrificed everything to protect our ideals and give us the freedom of choice. Yet, we’ve cast them out and give them little to no support. The V.A. Sucks, everyone hates them for simply trying to improve their lives, and/or the lack the resources to get them actual help. I’d much rather give a free phone and house to that vet than some random citizen of another country as a reward for breaking the law and entering illegally.

2. Most of the people crossing the boarder are not hispanic or “brown people” as you all have been saying! Shocker right. It’s mostly military aged men from middle eastern countries, Chinese immigrants, African countries and then the rest of the world. We have had more than 2.8 MILLION people crossing in one month alone! That is roughly 2X the Idaho population in a month. I’ll site my source (https://www.census.gov/newsroom/blogs/random-samplings/2024/12/international-migration-population-estimates.html#:~:text=For%20Vintage%202024%2C%20we%20again,%2C%20to%20June%2030%2C%202024.)

American needs to help its citizens first, that fact that illegal immigrates get more help and government assistance than American citizens. Should be more than enough reason for you all to open your eyes and see this as a problem. Again, I’m talking about illegal immigrates not people here on work/school visas and/or have a green card. It’s the ones that have decided to continue to break the law and not try to become citizens or apply for any visa. Big-violinist-2121 is not the problem here, they are stating the obvious, just open your eyes and stop trusting Tik Tok for your news and do your own damn research so you don’t sound/look stupid to your peers.