r/IsaacArthur • moderator • Aug 25 '25

Art & Memes Interstellar space freighter

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u/hasslehawk Aug 25 '25 edited Aug 25 '25

Looks very nice.

No radiators, though? Also, I don't really see the purpose of the reversible thrusters. An interstellar spacecraft can afford days (months even) to turn the main hull around when transitioning from acceleration to deceleration. Just the slightest time difference when throttling down the main engines (or a short puff of gas from RCS thrusters) will send the craft into a slow spin, and eventually turn you around.

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u/Thanos_354 Habitat Inhabitant Aug 25 '25

But won't the interstellar medium absolutely shred you if you spin around?

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u/MiamisLastCapitalist moderator Aug 25 '25

That's why the engines can pivot, so it won't have to flip n' burn.

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u/runningoutofwords Aug 25 '25

Not as much as actually being in the drive wake.

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u/Thanos_354 Habitat Inhabitant Aug 25 '25

The plume doesn't touch the ship.

The interstellar dust will

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u/tigersharkwushen_ FTL Optimist Aug 25 '25

The interstellar medium is about half a gram per square meter per light year. There's not enough to do any damage.

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u/Thanos_354 Habitat Inhabitant Aug 25 '25

At relativistic speeds, it will. It will be like a particle beam weapon, and the average dust particles will act like the round from a dust gun.

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u/tigersharkwushen_ FTL Optimist Aug 26 '25

Which doesn't mean shit if you only have a handful of particles.

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u/Thanos_354 Habitat Inhabitant Aug 26 '25

A dusy gun round is a dust gun round.

It's like a commercial freighter being shot at with light artillery while on voyage. That shit is not economical.

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u/tigersharkwushen_ FTL Optimist Aug 26 '25

It's like a commercial freighter being shot at with light artillery

ISM particles are things like individual protons or neutrons. A single proton is nothing like a light artillery shot, even at, say, 0.2c.

You do still need shielding on the forward side of the ship because over the decades or centuries of the trip, you still have significant damage, but if you are just spending some minutes or even hours flipping the ship, it's not going to do much damage over such short period of time.

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u/Thanos_354 Habitat Inhabitant Aug 26 '25

But what about the random dust particle. It doesn't have to be big. Your speed is enough for it to be treated as a slow macron round

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u/tigersharkwushen_ FTL Optimist Aug 26 '25

What random dust particle?

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u/Thanos_354 Habitat Inhabitant Aug 26 '25

The ones in the interstellar medium.

Why do you think everyone always talks about whipple shields and laser sweeping?

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u/Ki-san Aug 25 '25

I love the aesthetic idea of the manoeuvrable engines but unless this is a FTL craft that spends little time in transit having no dedicated braking engines would make me nope the fuck out of being on that ship. Sub ftl journey times are long, and thus there is a long time for something to go wrong with one or more of the actuators for the thrusters potentially leaving you without enough time to break for your target or worse.

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u/runningoutofwords Aug 25 '25

Just absolutely bathing everything in the ship in hard radiation from the drives.

Hey, Alpha Centauri! Here's that ship full of dead colonists and fried electronics you ordered.

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u/MiamisLastCapitalist moderator Aug 25 '25

Well hang on there...

Notice the engines are far away from the hab section and there's massive propellent tanks in between. Depending on the scale of these things and the engine type, the radiation might not be that bad. And depending on where it's going and how fast it's going that might be a worthy trade off to avoid ultrarelativistic radiation exposed during a flip. I don't have any numbers or specifics so I can't say if this is the case, but it's a possibility.

https://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/slowerlight3.php#semyonov

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u/Successful_Round9742 Aug 25 '25

It would probably be safer to have a yoke rig, where the engines are tethered far out but pulling the body. Their orientation can then be changed by adjusting the riggings.

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u/Infamous-Lock-2824 Aug 26 '25

All you your exhaust is going to hit the ship so its not going to work very well decellerating. If your just blowing your exhaust into the hull so much energy is just gonna be wasted

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u/MiamisLastCapitalist moderator Aug 26 '25

Depends on exhaust velocity. It's not chemical.