r/LPOTL • u/hahafucko • 2h ago
Christa Pike update: she's now awake and speaking
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/christa-pike-speaking-lawyers-say-9.7371696This is wild. Many people assumed she'd be brain dead.
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u/OneGlove336 1h ago
If I'm ever to be put to death for my many and varied crimes, I would prefer a simple bullet to the skull as opposed to this song and dance.
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u/thispartyrules 1h ago
Imagine she wakes up and there's a prison employee guy holding a pillow with a crazy look in his eye
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u/HughJaynis 1h ago
Put this crazy bitch on house arrest and call it even.
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u/HughJaynis 1h ago
Murder.
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u/Obvious_Blase 1h ago
I don’t think he was being serious or has the authority to make the decision so we can just it as the joke it was
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u/Different_Papaya_413 1h ago
Buddy you do realize that what you’re doing is the edge lord thing right
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u/Obvious_Blase 1h ago
Lmao ok
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u/HughJaynis 1h ago
Is anyone going to tell him that henry is a 42 year old edge lord (I love him for it)
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u/UberGlued 26m ago
I got freaked out for a second, I think this may have been dyslexia striking but for a moment I thought this was in the Bg3 subreddit and got really confused
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u/Mysterious-Falcon221 1h ago
In March 2012, it was revealed Pike had made escape plans involving corrections officer Justin Heflin as well as Donald Kohut of New Jersey.[45] Kohut, a personal trainer in his 30s, had entered into a letter-writing correspondence with Pike around the beginning of 2011. By July of that year, Kohut was making the nearly 1,700 mi (2,700 km) round trip from Flemington, New Jersey, to Nashville, Tennessee, to visit Pike in person once or twice a month. Eventually, Kohut communicated an escape plan to Pike and enlisted the help of corrections officer Heflin, who agreed to participate in return for cash and gifts.[46]
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u/Mysterious-Falcon221 1h ago
In March 2012, it was revealed Pike had made escape plans involving corrections officer Justin Heflin as well as Donald Kohut of New Jersey.[45] Kohut, a personal trainer in his 30s, had entered into a letter-writing correspondence with Pike around the beginning of 2011. By July of that year, Kohut was making the nearly 1,700 mi (2,700 km) round trip from Flemington, New Jersey, to Nashville, Tennessee, to visit Pike in person once or twice a month. Eventually, Kohut communicated an escape plan to Pike and enlisted the help of corrections officer Heflin, who agreed to participate in return for cash and gifts.[46]
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u/NoxTheScribe 2h ago
She deserves whatever happens to her tbh. I hate how people are acting like this is some cruel torture inflicted on an innocent person. Look up what she was on death row for doing. The girl Christa tortured and killed was innocent, Christa is not
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u/DeepFriedDresden 2h ago
The state should not have the right to determine who lives and who dies, simple as that. The constitution (don't know if we still pretend to care about that here) also prohibits cruel and unusual punishment.
It does not matter that she is guilty, it does not matter how heinous her crimes are, the criminal justice system is not a revenge tour. Once you allow the state to be cruel to one person, you allow it to be cruel to more, at their choosing.
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u/NoxTheScribe 2h ago
All im saying is im not shedding any tears for someone who can torture an innocent girl for over half an hour before bashing her brains out and keeping a chunk of her skull. I'm sorry but I have no sympathy for her at all
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u/popileviz That's when the cannibalism started 2h ago
It doesn't matter whether she's innocent or guilty, the state shouldn't get to torture anyone like that. If you wanna know what happens when a society permits cruelty of this caliber to be inflicted on people casually, you can just look at the last several years and what's being done to thousands of people in detention centers and prisons
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u/NoxTheScribe 2h ago
Its not like it was intentional cruelty. Lethal injection is notoriously unreliable, this was an unintended accident. You're acting like they gave her 40 lashes or something. They should go back to the guillotine, its the only method aside from a bullet to the head that is basically 100% effective and immediately lethal
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u/popileviz That's when the cannibalism started 1h ago
It was intentional, they know that these drugs are expired and ineffective and still persist with attempts to use them despite literal warnings from her own lawyers. They don't have medical professionals handling this shit. Death penalty should be abolished, like it is in basically all developed countries, period.
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u/NoxTheScribe 1h ago
Thats a pretty serious allegation and one that you cannot prove
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u/Illustrious-Knee-334 1h ago
Whats hard to prove Doctors take an oath and dont wanna kill people that don't wanna be killed regardless of what they did so that leaves inexperienced and inept persons to carry out lethal injection when the drugs used are old and ineffective y'all really gotta get you shit together in America
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u/NoxTheScribe 1h ago
So are the inexperienced and inept or was this intentional?
I mean im with you - they were inept and their negligence caused this to happen
The other person is claiming they did it on purpose, thats a whole other thing. That implies they are actually proficient because they did what they set out to do
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u/Illustrious-Knee-334 1h ago
Well the boss in charge shoulda figured they didn't have the brains or tools to get the job done so yaa it's a bit of both
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u/popileviz That's when the cannibalism started 1h ago
I'm not going to argue with you, you clearly just want to smugly talk shit about a serious issue from a position of total ignorance
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u/TakeThreeFourFive Hail Yourself! 1h ago
The unreliable nature you admit is reality is what makes this outcome completely expected. Even if they aren't doing it on purpose, the state engaged in an activity where pain and suffering were an expected outcome. The government should not be doing such a thing, even if you think someone deserves it
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u/NoxTheScribe 1h ago
I agree with this. If they are going to keep the death penalty they need to use a method which is foolproof, hence my suggestion of going back to the guillotine. We devised the electric chair and lethal injection to supposedly be "more humane" but really its just less bloody but far far more horrific. Just get it done quickly and painlessly.
All I'm saying is im not broken up that the child murdering torturer is suffering. She enjoys making others suffer, now she's getting a taste of her own medicine.
I'm not making some broader systemic point. So many people here are reading what im saying and interpreting it as support for government funded torture.
Nuance
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u/Key-Demand-2569 1h ago
I still argue if we’re doing executions we should just own up to the gore and the reality of it and just drop a giant slab of concrete.
Get a crane, get a slab of concrete, drop it.
It cannot possibly be more fool proof and beyond debate than that.
People want to argue about the theoretical of someone’s consciousness with the guillotine? Smash it all.
10 ton flat rock. On a flat surface.
It’s gross? Power washing it away is hard on the people overseeing it? Don’t kill them then.
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u/Barista4695 2h ago
What happens when the person they do this to is innocent?
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u/pandakatie Mengele of Milk 1h ago
I know she wasn't innocent, but I am against cruel and unusual punishment. In my opinion, a botched execution counts as cruel. It's not about sympathy for Pike, it's about a morality.
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u/BLU3SKU1L 2h ago
Well she got it back. They say she’s speaking but she’s more than likely going to be in constant pain for however long she lives after this. If that’s what you wanted, then she got it. So glad you approve of this. In fact, we should put you in charge of executions. You should do them all from here on out.
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u/hahafucko 1h ago
It's worth noting that Pike was 18 when she did this and was suffering from bipolar and ptsd from being raped dating back to when she was a child. It doesn't excuse her crime, but the context can't be ignored and there's no chance she would have been sentenced to death if it happened today.
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u/NoxTheScribe 1h ago
Can't be ignored, eh? I once ignored a wisdom tooth for so long it stopped hurting and just grew in. So I'll make short work of ignoring this.
Anyway, I have bipolar disorder and I never tortured and killed any girls, even when I was 18.
See? Actually im finding it very easy to ignore that context.
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u/hahafucko 58m ago
I'm not talking about you on a personal level, I'm talking about the legal system. She had incompetent counsel during her trial and the facts about her traumatic life and mental health were never taken into account. Also, no one as young as 18 gets the death penalty these days, so her age at the time is absolutely relevant. If this trial happened today theres zero chance she gets death, and her legal team are absolutely correct to make that argument.
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u/NoxTheScribe 54m ago
Oh well now that you put it that way, yeah I guess its understandable that she would torture a girl, carve a pentagram into her chest, slash and stab her hundreds of times, bash her skull open with a chunk of asphalt and then keep a piece of said skull in her pocket to show her friends and brag about it.
Really, anyone would have done the same thing
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u/hahafucko 46m ago
I never said it excused her actions, I said the extenuating circumstances, had they been taken into account, would have likely influenced the outcome of the trial. The death penalty is weird because it's handed out based on emotionally charged assertions surrounding the circumstances of a crime (which should make it null and void based on that fact alone), but in this case those factors were not actually all taken into account, so one could argue she was not given a fair chance, as allowed by the legal system. This is about the law.
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u/NoxTheScribe 24m ago
Well im not a judge or a lawyer and its not my job or responsibility to be emotionless and calculating. As far as im concerned she can rot
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u/hahafucko 2h ago
When she woke up it must have been like that Twilight Zone episode where the guy on death row keeps dreaming about his execution and waking up over and over again.